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Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.  
User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4213 times:

From a friend I was with tonight who lives over in the Stapleton redevelopment area, apparantly the rumor is going around that the locals moving in think the tower is an eyesore (it is in bad need of repair) and should be torn down, and the talk now is that it will be removed and a park will go in its place. This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor, but still  Sad

God I hate it when people who move in long after a plan has been decided think that just because they're there now they can do whatever they want.

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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4205 times:

I personally feel all those houses going in are an eyesore. They should be torn down and have something more beneficial used with the space. Maybe, say, an airport.

User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4192 times:

And I thought the "friend's dad's ramper's convervastion with a pilot" rumors were bad. Sorry Eric, I hope this is all  redflag 

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4180 times:

The problem is that the city has just ignored the building since the airport closed  Sad

Seriously why can't they refurbish it now and make it into a museum?


User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4006 times:
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If I recall correctly, there was serious discussion of the Smithsonian taking the Stapleton terminal (now demolished) for their annex of the Air & Space Museum. Obviously, this is a moot point now since their annex recently opened at IAD.

I don't think the city wants the burden of running a museum at the tower site, but if they're not keeping it in decent shape (no surprise there), then I can see the residents' point in wanting it removed.

IMHO, Denver really missed a great opportunity with the Stapleton redevelopment. Cramming houses in there, 10 feet apart max, and sprinkling in some big box stores, makes it immediately unattractive to a lot of folks. It looks exactly like the Lowry AFB redevelopment. If people want that sort of neighborhood, there are plenty of opportunities for it in and around Highlands Ranch.


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3964 times:

Man, that tower was the only reason I stayed at the Doubletree across the street from the UA Flight Ops Center. Wel, that and the annual F9 stockholders conference is there too, and the warm cookies on check-in!

 drool 



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

I thought the tower was a historical landmark, or in other words impossible to tear down...bastards...

User currently offlineCO767FA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3876 times:

Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 4):
Cramming houses in there, 10 feet apart max, and sprinkling in some big box stores, makes it immediately unattractive to a lot of folks.

Code dictates greater distance than your exaggerated 10' (20'). You think this is unique to this urban area? It is happening in every major metropolitan city.

Interestingly, of all the areas in Denver, Stapleton and Lowry aren't seeing any real estate slowing. Why did people move here instead of Highlands Ranch....come on, you probably already know the answer....new housing in the city.


User currently offlineCO767FA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3876 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Thread starter):
This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor, but still

And the rumor is just that...a rumor. The tower is a historical landmark and none of the neighborhood meetings has focused around the tower. The park (Central Park) will be finished this year and the tower will remain.


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3829 times:

Quoting CO767FA (Reply 8):
And the rumor is just that...a rumor. The tower is a historical landmark and none of the neighborhood meetings has focused around the tower. The park (Central Park) will be finished this year and the tower will remain.

Awesome. You attend these meetings?


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17322 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3808 times:

Quoting DLKAPA (Thread starter):
apparantly the rumor is going around that the locals moving in think the tower is an eyesore

It is pretty fugly, but so is the community of houses going up just to the south of it. I've never seen such a hodge-podge of clashing styles all squashed together to make it look like an "eclectic" living community.



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User currently offlineCO767FA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):
It is pretty fugly, but so is the community of houses going up just to the south of it. I've never seen such a hodge-podge of clashing styles all squashed together to make it look like an "eclectic" living community.

To each his own, but I'm loving the appreciation of my, "squashed together to make it look like an eclectic", home is climbing.

Just out of curiosity, where do you live?


User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2015 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3502 times:

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 1):
I personally feel all those houses going in are an eyesore. They should be torn down and have something more beneficial used with the space. Maybe, say, an airport.

LOL.......

Now seriously.... I live near the development in question. I have absolutely heard nothing about this. I doubt it will happen. The tower represents too much to too many people...


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17322 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

Quoting CO767FA (Reply 11):
Just out of curiosity, where do you live?

Near downtown Denver...don't get me wrong I like the Stapleton neighborhood but it's crazy how many different styles they've got going on there.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

How about the runway bridges over I-70? or whatever highway that was that used to run along side of Stapleton... I remember there were a couple runways going over the road. Did they tear the bridges down or did that become a road to these above mentioned neighborhoods?

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3324 times:

I really hope they don't demolish the tower.

Everytime I pass by the Stapleton area, I always admire the tower and just spend some time pondering.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13):
don't get me wrong I like the Stapleton neighborhood but it's crazy how many different styles they've got going on there.

Fully agree.

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 14):
How about the runway bridges over I-70? or whatever highway that was that used to run along side of Stapleton... I remember there were a couple runways going over the road. Did they tear the bridges down or did that become a road to these above mentioned neighborhoods?

Yes, they were torn down.



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User currently offlineCO767FA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13):
...it's crazy how many different styles they've got going on there.

True, but it's a hell of a lot better than the "Highlands Ranch" style! When you drive in Capitol Hill or Congress Park or Park Hill...do you see cookie cutter style houses/condos/apt. buildings?


User currently offlineCO767FA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3222 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 14):
How about the runway bridges over I-70? or whatever highway that was that used to run along side of Stapleton... I remember there were a couple runways going over the road. Did they tear the bridges down or did that become a road to these above mentioned neighborhoods?

All the bridges were brought down years ago, with the exception of the "ramp" service road. Discussion is now centering around allowing the residents to use it for access to Northfield (Shopping District) via bicycles and/or walking.

Current discussion in Denver, about the future growth and restructuring of I-70, is looking at pulling down the service road. That would leave the UA Training Center, Hotels, Control Tower, former AMR Combs Hanger and a couple of other smaller buildings from the demolishion ball.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4302 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

When I was in Denver in 1999, the airport buildings were still there, all closed and looking deserted and torn. I went hiking besides the freeway and found the derelict Convair 580 N73160 of Aspen which was abandoned after it made a forced landing, I could climb on board and took some seatcloth and metal with me as souvenir. Anyone know if that fuselage is still there? Here a picture of it two months before the crash
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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3187 times:

Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 4):
IMHO, Denver really missed a great opportunity with the Stapleton redevelopment. Cramming houses in there, 10 feet apart max, and sprinkling in some big box stores, makes it immediately unattractive to a lot of folks. It looks exactly like the Lowry AFB redevelopment. If people want that sort of neighborhood, there are plenty of opportunities for it in and around Highlands Ranch.

This quote seems to be the theme on this thread.

I disagree...

And regarding Highlands Ranch...it is not near the City as these redevelopment areas are. Highlands Ranch was just a bonanza of home builders gone wild...a cramming of cookie-cutter houses to the extreme.

Being a Denver resident (BTW: I live behind Regis Jesuit High School and love my land and new house) I am very familiar with the Stapleton redevelopment as well as the Lowry redevelopment.

First off, I must say both of these areas have won national awards for their redevelopment efforts. So, those of you who are complaining about how close the houses are on the size of a "postage stamp" yard...well I've got news for you: that is exactly the way the neighborhoods were planned. They are both supposed to feel like inner-city living...and the residents at these places love it (and have paid a pretty penny for it too). It gives it a definate "tighter-fit" feel to the community...because it is supposed to. Now, I bought my place because I wanted some land and a larger house. If I would have bought in either of these redevelopment areas, my house would have been much smaller and my yard would have been...well...like an average Highlands Ranch yard (very, very small).

Now, back to the topic...

I disagree with the majority of you...

Personally, I think the tower should be moved to an air museum somewhere in the country...somewhere where it would be taken care of and enjoyed...not in the middle of a sprawling neighborhood who wishes the tower to be gone already.

The tower is historical, but let's face it, it is an eyesore. It is out of place and ugly because it hasn't been maintained...which is a problem with the residents who have to look at it everyday. Yes, it was there first, but the airport is gone and other people now own the land around it...not the City; and majority usually wins.

I say, sell it or donate it to a museum for all to enjoy. What good is a defunct tower in the middle of a neighborhood that doesn't want it there...the tower is not like Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, NC (which every resident and tourist loves; loved it so much they moved it inland to keep the ocean away from doing any more damage to the structure...now that's love)...this, on the otherhand, is a control tower people...not everybody there loves airlines and airplanes...so move it somewhere where it could be enjoyed by those who appreciate the damn thing.



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User currently offlineCO767FA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3155 times:

Quoting DIA (Reply 19):
...not in the middle of a sprawling neighborhood who wishes the tower to be gone already.

I'm sure your post wasn't meant to come across as arrogant as it reads!??!  Confused

What gives you the impression the residents (I'm one of them) of Stapleton want the Tower removed? If anything, we would like to know what plans the developer has to restore the building!


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17322 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3141 times:

Quoting CO767FA (Reply 16):
When you drive in Capitol Hill or Congress Park or Park Hill...do you see cookie cutter style houses/condos/apt. buildings?

Not really....Capitol Hill is pretty varied but perhaps Park Hill is a little more "cookie cutter".



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineIADCRJ From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 4):
If I recall correctly, there was serious discussion of the Smithsonian taking the Stapleton terminal (now demolished) for their annex of the Air & Space Museum. Obviously, this is a moot point now since their annex recently opened at IAD.

I will always remember that the Smithsonian originally was interested in using the site of the old PIT terminal in Pittsburgh for this museum site, back in the early 90s. This goes back to the early days of this Air and Space museum's Annex project. I do not remember exactly what happened which resulted in this possibility to fall through, but I am sure it was due to political reasons between the Smithsonian and Allegheny County.


User currently offlineIADCRJ From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3111 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 6):
I thought the tower was a historical landmark, or in other words impossible to tear down...bastards...

I think it was the city's intention to leave it up with hopes of it possibly becoming such a landmark.


User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3085 times:

Quoting CO767FA (Reply 20):
I'm sure your post wasn't meant to come across as arrogant as it reads!??!

What gives you the impression the residents (I'm one of them) of Stapleton want the Tower removed? If anything, we would like to know what plans the developer has to restore the building!

Arrogant? I had no intention. Though, I must say, it is funny how someone else reads my thoughts and emotions much differently than intended.

I have several collegues who live on the Stapleton site. Four out of the five of them would like to see the tower gone (they really don't care for aviation the way we do). The fifth (who doesn't care about aviation either) would like to see it renovated...but agrees it is an eyesore the way it is........So that is my finger on the pulse of that community. You might have a very different idea/opinion...which you are absolutely entitled to.

I still stand by my opinion...it'd be better to move it to a place where it would be taken care of and enjoyed by ALL who wish to enjoy it. And if it never moves...fine...in the end, I really don't care, just as long as it is taken care of.

When I decide to drive over through 'your' neighborhood...I think it is the housing development across Quebec that should be torn down...those houses are the real eyesore. And, no, I really don't care about being politically correct here. Besides, the airport was there first, before they built those old cracker boxes across the street. Yes, the poorer residents will be booted, but that is exactly what happened at Lowry and that is what happens in the U.S. -- that's life.

And, no, I'm not meaning to come across arrogant and inconsiderate....just realistic, nothing more.



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