OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5869 times:
Did a search and didn't see that anyone had jumped on this just yet, but DL will soon service CUN from both IAD and BOS with Saturday only service.
Boston and Washington, D.C. customers will have non-stop access to one of Mexico’s most famous coastal vacation getaways:
ATLANTA, Jan. 30, 2006 – Delta Air Lines this summer will offer customers even more non-stop service to Mexico’s sun-drenched Yucatan Peninsula. Continuing its steady expansion to the premier leisure destinations in Mexico, beginning June 3, 2006, Delta will enhance its roster of gateways to the vacation paradise of Cancun with the addition of Saturday service from Boston’s Logan International Airport and Washington’s Dulles International Airport subject to Mexican government approvals.
"Cancun is one of the world’s near-perfect leisure destinations providing visitors abundant recreational, historic and architectural interests and activities,” said James Sarvis, director-Latin America & Caribbean Region. “This summer’s additional flights from Boston and Washington to Mexico’s world-renowned Yucatan Peninsula region are one more example of how Delta is giving its customers convenient access to more of Mexico’s most popular vacation hot spots.”
Last fall Delta announced the largest expansion into Mexico in the airline’s history. Between February and June 2006, in addition to its new service to Cancun from Boston and Washington-Dulles, Delta plans to offer customers flights on 12 new non-stop routes from its hubs in Atlanta, Cincinnati, New York-JFK and Salt Lake City, as well as service from Los Angeles. The new routes are:
Atlanta to Acapulco (April 5)*, Merida (Feb. 26) and Zihuatanejo/Ixtapa (April 12)*
Cincinnati to Los Cabos (Feb. 18)
Salt Lake City to Mazatlan (March 8)*
Los Angeles to Cancun (June 3)* and Zihuatanejo/Ixtapa (April 15)*
New York-JFK to Acapulco (March 11)*, Cozumel (June 3)*, Los Cabos (April 8)* and Puerto Vallarta (March 4)
*Routes subject to Mexican government approvals.
In December 2005, Delta preceded its most recent growth into Mexico with new service between Atlanta and Puerto Vallarta, another flight each between Atlanta and Guadalajara (a total of two daily) and Mexico City (a total of three daily), as well as a third flight that will operate seasonally between Atlanta and Monterrey. Delta also is seeking DOT approval to serve three additional routes by summer 2006: New York-JFK to Cancun, and Los Angeles to Puerto Vallarta and Los Cabos.
Delta’s new Saturday service between Boston and Cancun, effective June 3, 2006: Flight Departs Arrives
1667 Boston at 10:10 a.m. Cancun at 1:35 p.m.
1666 Cancun at 2:30 p.m. Boston at 7:23 p.m.
Delta’s new Saturday service between Washington (Dulles) and Cancun, effective June 3, 2006: Flight Departs Arrives
1545 Washington-Dulles at 10:10 a.m. Cancun at 12:35 p.m.
1546 Cancun at 1:30 p.m. Washington-Dulles at 5:39 p.m.
Delta will operate the new service to Cancun using the 150-seat Boeing 737-800 aircraft, featuring both First and Economy Class cabins.
For specific schedules and fares to these and the many other destinations Delta serves in Mexico and throughout Latin America and the Caribbean, customers should visit delta.com.
Delta Air Lines (Other OTC: DALRQ) is the world’s second-largest airline in terms of passengers carried, offering daily flights to 503 destinations in 94 countries on Delta, Song, Delta Shuttle, the Delta Connection carriers and its worldwide partners. In summer 2006, Delta plans to offer customers more flights between the U.S. and destinations across Europe, India and Israel than any global airline, including service on 11 new transatlantic routes from its Atlanta and New York-JFK hubs. Delta also is a major carrier to Mexico, South and Central America and the Caribbean, with more than 35 routes announced, added or applied to serve since Jan. 1, 2005. Delta's marketing alliances also allow customers to earn and redeem SkyMiles on more than 14,000 flights offered by SkyTeam and other partners. Delta is a founding member of SkyTeam, a global airline alliance that provides customers with extensive worldwide destinations, flights and services. Customers can check in for flights, print boarding passes and check flight status at delta.com.
A portion of travel for some itineraries may be on the Delta Connection carriers Atlantic Southeast Airlines, Shuttle America or SkyWest, or SkyTeam partner Aeroméxico.
Spank 'em? Give me a break. It is a measly one weekly 738 that will largely be filled by passengers that would have connected in Atlanta anyway. UA isn't going to spank them, and the capacity that Delta is adding, using planes that would otherwise be parked on Saturdays, is negligable. Delta should do fine. The market is big enough, and leisure markets like Cancun don't rely on customer loyalty.
OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5640 times:
Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 3): Dang.. was hoping for the RDU-CUN Sat only flight using the 738.. oh well..
We finally caved in and gave you RDU-LAX and NOW you want RDU-CUN. There's just no way to please you, is there? LOL
My first thought was to jump on the route before someone like Jetblue does, since they are planning on beefing up IAD. Anyone else wonder this?
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5): It is a measly one weekly 738 that will largely be filled by passengers that would have connected in Atlanta anyway.
Got to agree here. Once weekly isn't something that will be severe competition between UA and DL. Usually adding such a small flight doesn't effect the majors too much, and UA probably won't even pay it much attention. It would be like UA starting an ATL-MCO flight with a A319, nobody would give it a second thought.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33287 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5511 times:
Quoting LH417AF025 (Reply 9): Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
filled by passengers that would have connected in Atlanta anyway
because IAD def has a HUGE DL feed...
This flight is meant for O&D. Who ever said IAD has DL feed? What likely is going on here is that Delta carriers a very large amount of WAS-CUN passengers via ATL in the first place that they are simply starting their own WAS-CUN flight with an aircraft that would otherwise be on the ground on Saturdays. Smart utilization, and despite not stellar yields, CUN is a usually healthy, safe market that airlines fly to profitably. It would not shock me if DL went after some other Saturday-only CUN flights. MIA, CMH, and RDU, for example.
Lono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5316 times:
I find it interesting that DL gave away Mexico... and now they think they can compete... what changed..??? I mean when they got WA they had all this already... now.. and I mean recently they gave up LAX-MEX to AS... now they are trying to come back....??? look at what they did in DFW for example... they screwed that up big time... all flights were full (I cleared them into the USA)... gave it all away.... What has changed..??? This even goes to the DL expansion to Europe... they gave that away... what has changed... I think DL is late to the game again....
Lindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5191 times:
Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 4): but Sat only service out of IAD? I don't see that being long-lived. UA will spank 'em.
US Airways started in Dec of 2004 Saturday only flights to Virgin Islands from IAD. They are very succesfull on that flight.
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 11): This flight is meant for O&D. Who ever said IAD has DL feed?
DL has lots of flights to IAD. Hourly service to/from ATL, bi-hourly service to CVG, one daily to/from JFK, two daily to/from SLC, and I believe two daily flights to northern Florida cities (JAX and MEL?).
Domesticly I fly only Delta and only from IAD. They have great schedule for connections to any place in US and Canada. They won't have any problems filling up 737-800 at IAD.
SkyHigh777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4869 times:
I think Delta will do just fine from IAD. I went to CUN about two summers ago and flew with Delta, that connection in Atlanta is definately a bitch. That's why last year we flew USA3000 since it was nonstop, but I have miles on Delta so I will definately use them now. Hope they keep it up, and I look forward to giving them a try this summer!
AA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2401 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4701 times:
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 16): If you mean a perimeter, yes, DCA still has that, either 1,250 or 1,500mi, not sure. Of course, the DOT occasionally grants exemptions for longer flights, like DCA-SLC a few years ago.
Speaking of the perimeter, what ever happened to DCA-LAX on TW? Did they get to even operate this route? I know the politicians in Washington pushed for this service and got a break from the perimeter rule.
I would enjoy seeing some service to from RDU to CUN again. Midway flew the route for sometime on one of their 100's. It was a very nice 2+ hour flight with excellent meal service in FC in both directions. I traveled the route at least 10 times with JI.
Oh how I miss Midway Airlines. A class act right to then end.
: When AA took TWA, DCA/LAX went back into the pot and was awarded to Alaska. There have been two groups "beyond perimeter" allotments, both mandated b
: AS now operates that route 1x daily. It's been said that the route has only performed marginally, because of the low frequency (e.g. business travell
: Good for Delta. I found this article, "Cancun Calling" http://news.cheapflights.com/airlines/2006/01/cancun_calling.html#more