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Crash At/near Kpwk?  
User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3865 times:

The Chicago Tribune is reporting a crash at PWK (Palwaukee). Friends are telling me now that it's on Wolf Road somewhere south of the airport. Does anyone know anything?


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User currently offlineOrdpia From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3805 times:

Just saw the scroll on WGN it was a twin engine prop, four are dead, more info to come.


It was a twin engine cessna
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...50.story?coll=chi-newsbreaking-hed

[Edited 2006-01-31 03:01:44]


Concorde 146 727 737 73G 742 744 752 753 762 763 772 773 300 319 320 321 343 346 CRJ ERJ ATR ATP CL604 LJ45 LJ60 BD700
User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3763 times:

N920MC would likely be the candidate, a Ce421B that was due in from Olathe, KS at 6:23pm local...


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User currently offlinePIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3737 times:

Just read about it on www.chicagotribune.com

PIA777



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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2616 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3662 times:
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Wow I live a couple of miles from there. This is terrible

User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3623 times:

It sounds like the plane went down between Wolf and the train tracks off of Alderman, or about a mile south of the field. That's not a normal place for a plane to be approaching 6 (I assume he was approaching 6). The only arrival or departure that goes over that part of Wheeling/Prospect Heights routinely is one of the departures for smaller planes from 34... interesting.

From all the media reports, whatever happened to the plane sounds pretty catastrophic... not just running out of gas or screwing up the approach or something like that. May those involved rest in peace.



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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3600 times:

A plane that size would most likely be using 34 for landing.

RIP to all.



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User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3533 times:

Quoting Flyingbronco05 (Reply 6):
A plane that size would most likely be using 34 for landing.

That's what the Tribune said too, but he wasn't close to 34. Only time will explain.



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User currently offlineCcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3379 times:
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I was watching the news today and noticed they showed this surveilance camera feed of the plane crashing, it showed the plane at an angle with it's gear down. Then I heard that it was some local people who died and one of them was the owner of Sybaris resorts which provides romantic getaways for married couples. Here is a link if they want to see the video
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=3863890



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User currently offlineCsturdiv From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 1491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

On the local news tonight, one of the pax was reported as the owner/president of the Sybiris "Resorts". Two of the other pax worked for Morgan Stanley at the offices in the Discover Financial building in Riverwoods, that was announced today on our intranet site, but as of yet their names have not been released to the public (but they were published on the Discover intranet site).


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User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3245 times:

From the description of eyewitnesses and the video I would definitely say that with a fireball of that size fuel starvation would not be an issue.
It looks like a stall/spin accident to me. Was there any low level icing in the area at the time of the crash?

Disclaimer: This is just my own opinion, based on observations provided herein, and is not factual.


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 10):
It looks like a stall/spin accident to me. Was there any low level icing in the area at the time of the crash?

It was about 35 and dry at the time of the accident.... not ripe for low-level icing. Based on pictures published today, both engines appear to have been running and on fire at the time of impact.



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User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3151 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 11):
both engines appear to have been running and on fire at the time of impact

Wow, that puts a whole new perspective on things. A multiple engine fire would be an extremely rare event. If both engines were truly on fire, then the crew may have been distracted with that emergency and didn't keep a close eye on their speed. Result, Stall/Spin accident. Usually these are indicated by an aircraft wreckage being confined to a small area, rather than having a long debris field.

Horrible accident though. We'll have to wait until the final NTSB report comes out.


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