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BA Connect Has Launched!  
User currently offlineTrb10 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 16 hours ago) and read 7952 times:

The site has gone live and I think they have done well, I really hope it works out for them. I can now get a return from brs-edi for £30 same as sleezy to I know which I'll be flying! Good luck BA!!!

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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 15 hours ago) and read 7884 times:

Good to see the tickets are available! At these prices I'll be flying every weekend!

Buy on board seems a little expensive, but I'd imagine its no different to any other offering.



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User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2531 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 13 hours ago) and read 7732 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1):
Buy on board seems a little expensive, but I'd imagine its no different to any other offering.

Well, 0,60 pounds for a Coke is not that expensive. I would go for the Pizza Slice at 4 pounds  Wink

I found an EDI-CDG-EDI for 89 pounds, is it cheap?



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 13 hours ago) and read 7728 times:

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 2):
I found an EDI-CDG-EDI for 89 pounds, is it cheap?

Nah, EDI lot have other choices
PIK-BVA-PIK Ryanair £30 return
NCL-CDG-NCL easyJet £30 return

Even with travelling to NCL or PIK, it'd still be cheaper than flying BA, plus you get a decent sized a/c and not a tiny ER4  Wink



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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 7692 times:

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 2):
Well, 0,60 pounds for a Coke is not that expensive.

Except its a 150ml can, not the standard 330  Sad



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User currently offlineBaexecutive From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 761 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 7615 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 3):
Nah, EDI lot have other choices
PIK-BVA-PIK Ryanair £30 return
NCL-CDG-NCL easyJet £30 return

£89 is cheap for a return to CDG!

I pay that on a return to Manchester from Glasgow most days.

I prefer to travel from Glasgow as the journey to Prestwick then from Beauvais is too traumatic  Smile


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 7589 times:

Well we all knew what was coming! Im dissapointed. A sad day for me when I see yet another full service airline at Manchester go down the no frills route. First BD now BACitiExpress.

I will probably fly them, havent much choice unless I fly to LHR/LGW and then onwards to Europe and as much as I like my frills, I cannot see me doing that and will prob take the convenient option even if its not what I would like to buy.

BA at Man are now a no frills airline for short haul European and lets hope their cabin staff hang their heads in shame as they come collecting money for a soft drink.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 7589 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 6):
Well we all knew what was coming! Im dissapointed. A sad day for me when I see yet another full service airline at Manchester go down the no frills route. First BD now BACitiExpress.

People had the choice and decided to use no frills airlines more and more. Airlines are adjusting to what the people want.



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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 7579 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 6):
lets hope their cabin staff hang their heads in shame as they come collecting money for a soft drink.

Yes and it was the cabin crew that decided to make the change... sarcastic 


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 7567 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 6):
BA at Man are now a no frills airline for short haul European

So excellent tools like Manage My Booking aren't frills for you?

Two things have changed:
1) the fares (they have lowered)
2) you have to pay for food (I personally prefer to pay for a tasty sandwich, instead of getting a 'complimentary' bag of pretzels)

I will still go out of my way to fly airlines like BA Connect, as I find perks like being able to check-in and select your seat (for free!) are important, just like the flexibility you get for example in case your flight is cancelled (rebookings etc.). No "there might be place on tomorrow's flight, come back tomorrow" Ryanair-style in case of problems for me.

Frederic


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 7567 times:

I'm sure the cabin crew won't be too pleased, as their jobs are now devalued to a certain extent. Must be quite demeaning to go from full service with Club, to LCC.

Also, is this what passengers want, or just WW deciding what they want in order to turn a profit? I was never asked as a fairly-regular BA passenger from MAN what I wanted!



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 7550 times:

Nor have I ever been asked. So much for public consulation. I knew with WW joining BA we could expect something like this. How long before he imposes his no fills on European routes from LGW??? Its coming, I fear.

User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 7530 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 6):
A sad day for me when I see yet another full service airline at Manchester go down the no frills route. First BD now BACitiExpress.

Is free food and drink all that 'full service' means in your eyes? What about OLCI and Lounge Access, Frequent Flyer schemes etc? Aren't these thrills?

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 6):
and will prob take the convenient option even if its not what I would like to buy

You never buy anything, remember. Your Granny does that. She;ll be relieved, it'll cost her less to send you on your jollies now!

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
People had the choice and decided to use no frills airlines more and more. Airlines are adjusting to what the people want.

Exactly. IT's basic business principles - delivering what the market wants, and adjusting accordingly.

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 10):
Also, is this what passengers want, or just WW deciding what they want in order to turn a profit?

It is what customers want, because they were turning away in their droves from mainline carriers and switching to the LCC option, Hence the demise of many routes CitiExpress once operated succesfully. Public consultation wasn't necessary - if BA hadn't adjusted accordingly, they wouldn't be here in a few years time (as a regional operator).

7L



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 7509 times:

Im not the only one who doesnt pay for my own flights. Most business passengers dont either and they and I are the type of customer who are looking for a full service carrier. What now for the C class Citiexpress passengers, where will they move their business to? other European carriers serving MAN which still offer a C cabin?

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19260 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 7509 times:

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 12):
Aren't these thrills?

With so many thrills, who needs frills?



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 7472 times:

Thrills? if a frequent flyer programme and lounge access get you excited, then come up and see me sometime Big grin Ill show you a thrill or two hahahah

User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 7455 times:

God, its a sad world where people bitch because they can't get a 'free' sandwich on a one to two hour flight. I think this is great. You might have to even speak to the cabin crew to order your food now, instead of grunting 'yes' or 'no' at them when they ask you if you would like breakfast/lunch/dinner.

User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 7429 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 13):
Most business passengers dont either and they and I are the type of customer who are looking for a full service carrier

You are so detached from the market Orion. Remember that. If there were all these 'C class' passengers you constantly refer too, why arent there many airlines offering this facility profitably any more on short haul sectors?

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 14):
Aren't these thrills?

With so many thrills, who needs frills?

Lol - sorry - typo. I mean't frills.

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 15):
Thrills? if a frequent flyer programme and lounge access get you excited, then come up and see me sometime Ill show you a thrill or two hahahah

Erm no.  vomit   yuck 

Quoting Sevenair (Reply 16):
God, its a sad world where people bitch because they can't get a 'free' sandwich on a one to two hour flight.

Erm no - not people - just Orion.  sarcastic 

7L



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User currently offlineDoor5Right From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 707 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 7418 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1):
Buy on board seems a little expensive

£5 for a full breakfast plus coffee seems fairly reasonable to me.

I love the fact BA Connect will offer a British Afternoon tea - sandwich, scone jam and clotted cream, plus hotdrink for a mere £4.

Plus the ability to book the seat online as well.

Good Luck to BA Connect, that is what I say!



My soul is in the sky...
User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 7369 times:

will sufficient meals be carried to allow all paasengers the option? Its ok if your in row 1 but what about if your further back? will you get the 'sorry, sold out'?

User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 7369 times:

Just a quick question.
For those passengers who used to fly in Club Europe and will now have to fly in Y using the 'BA Connect Plus' ticket, will these passengers actually experience a real difference? Please correct me if I am mistaken, but apart from the meal, the passengers will continue to have full flexibility, lounge access, same seat on board and the ability to earn tier points on BA Executive Club. There doesn't seem to be much difference at all to Club Europe on Citiexpress!
I've just realised, if Connect Plus passengers are allowed to use BA lounges, surely they can grab a snack and drink in there for free!
Any comments?


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 7369 times:

A big difference for the businessman. Before he got his Scotch courtesy of his company where as now it wont be included in the fare and he will have to pay out of his own pocket!!!

User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 7319 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 21):
A big difference for the businessman. Before he got his Scotch courtesy of his company where as now it wont be included in the fare and he will have to pay out of his own pocket!!!

But look how much money businessmen/women or companies will save! If I wanted to fly with CitiExpress in Feb (before BA Connect model comes in on March 26) in Club Europe with a fully flexible ticket from MAN to CDG, I would have to pay:

£626.70*

Now for the same flexibility, lounge access, same seat and tier points and no meal the new BA Connect Plus ticket would cost me:

£551*

That's a saving of about £70! Not bad for missing out on free airline food and alcohol!

*Quoted from ba.com. Fares is for one adult and includes all taxes and charges.



[Edited 2006-02-01 14:29:57]

User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 7294 times:

Many business travellers arent interested in saving their company money. They utilise their expanses to the full. If they can get the wives sheepskin cleaned for nothing and claim it back on dry cleaning expenses they will!

You might find not as many suits partake of a G&T or Scotch now they have to pay themselves.


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3762 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 7294 times:

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 21):
A big difference for the businessman. Before he got his Scotch courtesy of his company where as now it wont be included in the fare and he will have to pay out of his own pocket!!!

But he can claim it on expenses anyway, like he does for his pre-flight scotch from the bar near the gate.


25 Post contains images Starcrew : its not the crew's fault more like they will hang their heads when they see you coming onboard!
26 Concorde001 : It seems economy passengers get a good deal too by the looks of things. MAN-CDG rtn on CitiExpress restricted economy (lowest price) costs £109.70. W
27 Post contains images Skidmarks : Like it's their fault? Come on. I think they would rather still have a job doing that than sitting in a dole queue or sending CV's out. I, for one, w
28 Richardw : GT (BA) at MAN is a frills service. BA (AA) at MAN to the USA is a frills service. I think if BA Connect is successful there might be a BA Connect Ser
29 Door5Right : A test booking for BHD-MAN-BHD (out 4 April, return 6 April), when clicked on two £25 flights reveals a fare breakdown of £2 plus £43.40 taxes: tot
30 Concorde001 : It's good value I think! I've just tried to look for a one way fare from MAN-SOU and ba.com quoted me £20.50! Not bad at all!
31 Post contains images Pe@rson : Yep. Cost reduction, overall increased efficiency (which includes cost reduction and increased productivity) and rationalisation (an adaptive culture
32 BHXFAOTIPYYC : Well I said this in another post yesterday on another thread, but here goes... I do not agree with the buy on board model for BA because I believe it
33 Pe@rson : What, in cents, hundreds, thousands, millions... ?
34 Concorde001 : It says EUR, so I'm assuming €1,550,746 (Euros)!
35 Baexecutive : Does anyone know if the bar service on Loganair flights is free?
36 Post contains images Pe@rson : Then by that logic FR earned £293.44.
37 Egmcman : If FR are good enough for Arsenal and the Jordan F1 team then I'm sure BA Connect will be ok.
38 Post contains images Pe@rson : Not forgetting that a Swedish princess flew about FR and liked it - oh, and Tony Blair and his family (they chose it over BA and U2).
39 7LBAC111 : Even Eos won;t be good enough for Orion. Strange how he has gone quiet, as usual, upon anyone challenging him! 7L
40 BHXFAOTIPYYC : Ryanair : EUR 432.00 (four hundred and thirty two euros) EasyJet: EUR 11,561.00 (eleven thousand five hundred and sixty one euros) BA: EUR 1,550,746.0
41 Post contains images Pe@rson : Ooooh I see. I thought you were trying to say that FR earned 432 EUR in 2005. Not your firm. OK.
42 BHXFAOTIPYYC : OK, Pe@rson, sorry for any confusion !! I was just trying to illustrate why I have concerns about the direction of BA and why I would prefer them not
43 DavidT : Or connect thru Hellthrow... Here's an idea BA - why not add £5 to the cost of every morning flight and give everybody a breakfast. Same with aftern
44 Richardw : Because the market has changed, people now expect a keenly priced fare.
45 DavidT : Although adding just an extra £5 wouldn't rise the price too much would it? If you were quoted £27 and £32, mentally they're about the same. The wo
46 Richardw : FR and U2 and also GOE changed the market, BA has recognised this, a £10 headline reduction on a return fare is significant in the low fares climate
47 Post contains images Orion737 : I went quiet 7LBAC111 because I was visiting a friend in hospital. Fancy joining him in the next bed? No? less sarcasm then buggerlugs
48 Post contains images Trekster : Good luck BA Connect. Hope it changes the ways citiexpress have been the past year or so, losing money, but offereinga great service. At work today we
49 Orion737 : BA and Willie Walsh are full of hot air at the moment.
50 Orion737 : It upsets me sometimes that some members of Airliners resort to name-calling when they disagree with an opinion expressed, quite legitimatley, bu anot
51 Orion737 : Also many BA LGW routes are to leisure destinations or where there is a mix of leisure/business pax. LHR short haul is quite different with much more
52 Post contains images 7LBAC111 :    True. Signed Buggerlugs. (aka 7L) Don't be a hypocrit Orion.[Edited 2006-02-01 19:31:54]
53 Egmcman : The red ink has to stop flowing their regional routes the business is about making money and being profitable. WW's job is to ensure BA are profitabl
54 Gkirk : I understand they are dropping MAN-OSL
55 Trekster : Yep, were rebooking all pax via LON or canx the booking FOC
56 Bhxforever : One new route for BHX. BHX-BFS 4times daily with RJ100s and ERJs. Pretty strong rumours about BHX-TXL with ERJs.
57 GayrugbyMAN : BFS or BHD....????? Let's be specific, please! Talking to a member of BA staff at MAN today, they seemed to think MAN - BCN was a pretty safe bet for
58 HS748 : Wasn't he? He did say BFS.
59 GayrugbyMAN : But he was wrong, it's BHD!!
60 Lhrmaccoll : I cant find their site! Anyone got a link?
61 Post contains links Mhodgson : http://www.britishairways.com/travel...p/public/en_gb?source=CF_con_en_gb All very flashy!
62 Richardw : Will flights to BCN and MAD have IB codes?
63 Post contains images Hiflyer : Gee, I can only think Orion must be a lawyer for an oil company since his company does not care about costs!! Seriously it is no less chaotic on the w
64 JAT74L : What frills? A crappy salad or roll plus a drink? The only frill I see is the avoidance of the non allocated seat scrum - so go GSM! John
65 Pe@rson : I haven't flown BACX from MAN, but I've flown BD numerous times (to LHR, EDI and GLA). The food was OK, but certainly nothing I couldn't live without
66 Bhxforever : Sorry Mr Pedantic! Did a whoopsie, yes it is BHD. Does anyone know if this route will be at the expense of any others, or will they just juggle about
67 Aleksandar : I really don't see this as a problem . If BA connect can make money, it's fine. If they can offer better deals to passengers, it's even better. As for
68 VV701 : Fewer businessmen and businesswomen fly premium class on short haul flights today than in the past. Many that I know regularly fly EZ. Today's premium
69 Post contains images Cornish : If people want Frills, why not go to Alton Towers ??
70 Pe@rson : Padded chairs and all sorts!
71 Post contains images Cornish : Oh you are referring to Deep Pocketed Old Lady Ltd BA are doing what is needed to make their short haul business out of the regions survive. They can
72 Pe@rson : I think the difference between what customers will accept varies dramatically between short- and long-haul. In terms of short-haul flights, they'd be
73 Post contains images Cornish : Absolutely. Of course there will always be cost conscious travellers looking for the cheapest flights on long haul as well, but what you say is true.
74 Post contains images Pe@rson : Exactly. And things to expedite the overall process, i.e. OLCI, will result in less time at the airport and a quicker, better and less hassle-filled
75 Post contains images Cornish : Ah but if they were all equally good we wouldn' be able to tell the difference - fantastic for the average traveller, boring as hell for A.netters
76 Post contains images Pe@rson : LOL. That must be the reason.
77 Pe@rson : Does he claim any benefits? Or does Stupid Woman pay for everything?
78 Post contains images Sevenair : Yeah Logainair is still free-even better-as there are no miniatures, you get a large serving from a litre bottle of Vodka (or chatever) -so you do ge
79 Mhodgson : Flying MAN-DUS-MAN this weekend, will enjoy the food while it lasts! That said, I paid about £100 for the flights, so if I saved £40 on them I'd pro
80 Speedbirdcrew : Don't forget INV!! Good luck to BA Connect, I know lots of people I work with are convinced its gonna come to LGW if it works. So who knows what the
81 Post contains images 7LBAC111 : Seeing as my other posts were deleted due to my use of a certain word, I have decided to repost, within the guidelines of this site, My god you are su
82 Ozvirginuk : My previous posts were also deleted. This is simply not a reason for airlines to continue to offer these services. Afterall it's the BUSINESS that pay
83 Post contains images Trekster : Well, my post above was deleted, maybe cause it was a link to my website, but hey. At work yesterday we had a BA Coloured Hot Air Baloon. Here are som
84 Door5Right : HAs anyone else found difficulty getting BA Connect single fares from April onwards? Plenty of £25 fares each weay if it is a return booking. But whe
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