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The Future Of First Class (with Current Pics)  
User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1090 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 19034 times:

So many airlines today have such great First class products, such as seen below, so what on earth can be next ?..
Virgin has an amazing clubhouse and a stand up bar on board (I wonder where they keep the Pianist ..haha) CX has dressing rooms...
What else possible can Airlines try to incorporate into First Class cabins ?
I know with the advent of the A380 numerous possibilities abound especially once VS and EK gets their paws on them...
whats next guys ? Even GF has a sky nanny !!



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 18983 times:

I believe one of the things planned for the A380 are private bedrooms for those willing to pay more to sleep in private vs. the big comfy chair in First. I've also heard casinos but that wasn't limited to First.


"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offline9KBOS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 18928 times:

I wonder if they could install shower(s)....After an overnight flight to europe, that is one thing I cannot wait to do. Just a suggestion.

User currently offlineSkywatch From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 923 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 18856 times:

Quoting 9KBOS (Reply 2):
I wonder if they could install shower(s)....After an overnight flight to europe, that is one thing I cannot wait to do. Just a suggestion.

Most people can get grossed out just thinking about what's on their seat.....but showers?! Although these might be a health risk anyways, the airlines would never put them in becuase of turbulence/falling risks and associated liability.....maybe. I might be wrong and some airline will install one this year. Big grin I'm pretty content with just being at a window seat the whole flight. I guess more legroom and good exterior cam views on the PTV's would suite me just fine!

---Skywatch



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User currently offlineEdelag From Mexico, joined Dec 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 18815 times:

Doesn't China Air, give you your own space on first class. Saw an ad on CNN a few days ago.


It's not just the destination, it's the journey.
User currently offlineIluv747400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 18802 times:

Showers would require a lot of water which is heavy and takes up a lot space. I think the showers will remain in the arrivals lounges.

User currently offlineJoni From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 18734 times:

I know this is unlikely because there are health risks to anesthetics, but what about an onboard anesthesiologist: you pass out before takeoff and come to just before landing, spending the whole flight in deep unconsciousness. Something to this effect was featured in _the Fifth Element_.

User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1090 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 18702 times:

Quoting Joni (Reply 6):
I know this is unlikely because there are health risks to anesthetics, but what about an onboard anesthesiologist: you pass out before takeoff and come to just before landing, spending the whole flight in deep unconsciousness. Something to this effect was featured in _the Fifth Element_.

hahaha..ooohhhh...you could see the terrorists rubbing their hands together with glee the day that Virgin announce this !!  Wink Good idea though..


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4366 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 18662 times:

Quoting Joni (Reply 6):
you pass out before takeoff and come to just before landing, spending the whole flight in deep unconsciousness.

I know it sounds crazy from an aviation lovers point of view, but I wanted this option for a long time, especially on a redeye flight, long flights, bumpy flights, rude passengers, FA's trying to feed you, carts bumping into you, screaming kids and all. Just put me out and wake me up when we get there. Again this should be only an option.


User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1090 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 18586 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 8):
I know it sounds crazy from an aviation lovers point of view, but I wanted this option for a long time, especially on a redeye flight, long flights, bumpy flights, rude passengers, FA's trying to feed you, carts bumping into you, screaming kids and all. Just put me out and wake me up when we get there. Again this should be only an option.

This could be offered for all classes not just first..
But also one thing I would say regarding this, what if..God forbid..the plane crashed ?? wouldnt you want to be awake/aware ??
Thats a tough one !! Guess it depends what your preferences are..

I personally wonder what on earth SQ are doing ?? they used to be miles ahead of the competition with innovation but lately it seems they have slipped behind CX and EK a bit... (sigh  Sad )


User currently offlineSWISSER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 18510 times:

Quoting BHXDTW (Thread starter):
Even GF has a sky nanny !!

And a Chef!  Wink (I' am in the process of being hired as one!)


User currently offlineFlyingHippo From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 680 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 18429 times:

Quoting 9KBOS (Reply 2):
I wonder if they could install shower(s)....After an overnight flight to europe, that is one thing I cannot wait to do. Just a suggestion.

It would be great if the plane is full of 19 year old college female cheerleaders... While they take a shower, I'd bribe the pilot to start shaking the plane and pretend it's a bad turbulance, and ask her to get out of the shower and return to her seat... NOW! NOW! NOW!!!

But it would only be good with 19 year old chics... Don't want to see any 91 year old grandmas running out of the shower naked due to turbulance...


User currently offlineBHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1090 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 18376 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 10):
And a Chef! (I' am in the process of being hired as one!)

sweet dude !!

I think though that the SkyChef concept isnt neccessarily new...
Doesnt CO and BD have one ??


User currently offlineDc10s4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 18325 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
believe one of the things planned for the A380 are private bedrooms for those willing to pay more to sleep in private vs. the big comfy chair in First. I've also heard casinos but that wasn't limited to First.

Or you can join the 7-mile high club with your honey  Big grinD


User currently offlineUSADreamliner From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 17627 times:

I think the next steps are:
Included in your First Class fare: An amazing tour to the wild and barbarian Economy Class ( don't feed the people please).

A taste of peanuts and pretzels( native delicacies), and incredible stories of passengers travelling for 14 hrs with 30 in legroom!

Also, a dog will bring the morning newspaper to you, and a monkey will Tap dance every 45 minutes for your entertainment.

What are you waiting?
Fly with us!

USADreamliner  Big grin  Big grin


User currently offlineGSM763 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 17584 times:

Quoting 9KBOS (Reply 2):
I wonder if they could install shower(s)....After an overnight flight to europe, that is one thing I cannot wait to do. Just a suggestion.

What if they install one of those mist showers. You walk into it fully clothed get hit by a bit of misty water and walk out again takes only 2 litres of water, very refreshing and would only take about a minute.


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3697 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 17354 times:

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 14):
I think the next steps are:
Included in your First Class fare: An amazing tour to the wild and barbarian Economy Class ( don't feed the people please)

I do this already Big grin....  Embarrassment

Personally I'm interested to see what BA come up with...they set the bar in 1996 with the flat bed and are planning on doing a refurb along with Club World later in the year.

Personally I'm not a fan of the ruby studded, gold lined, bling factor of the EK cabin decor, although the concept looks rather good.



"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 17232 times:

Quoting Dc10s4ever (Reply 13):
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
believe one of the things planned for the A380 are private bedrooms for those willing to pay more to sleep in private vs. the big comfy chair in First. I've also heard casinos but that wasn't limited to First.

Or you can join the 7-mile high club with your honey

VS is offering some deal on the 747s (maybe the A340s too but I'm not sure) where the two middle Upper Class Suites in a row can have the partition removed between them for couple traveling together. Fashion yourself a tent out of that big fluffy comforter plus keep it quiet, and I'm sure you could join as is right now.

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 14):
and a monkey will Tap dance every 45 minutes for your entertainment.

No! I want that monkey dancing the whole flight.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16):
ruby studded, gold lined, bling factor of the EK cabin decor

When is the last time you saw anything come out of the Gulf region that wasn't bling bling? The BA product will continue to be classy along with the SQ and CX products.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 17059 times:

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 10):
And a Chef! Wink (I' am in the process of being hired as one!)

I want to work for GF, but not easy as a US citizen, Being a chef in the air would be fun, can I be inflight crew other than an F/A on GF cause they only hire Bahraini/Oman Males??



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User currently offlineFlight7E7 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 16793 times:

I have had the pleasure to fly the SQ and VS products up front more than once-and let me say, you almost want to ask to go 'round again! A grueling 14 hours becomes a mini vacation! The service on both is impeccable. SQ f/a's stand sentinel at the rear of the cabin, and I will be damned if you simply as much as move a muscle, they are there. Beluga, Dom, cashmere pj's, down comforters and duvet's....breakfast to order...then you land in SFO/LAX to connect to east coast (PHL) and have to deal with US, AA, or UA....talk about being depressed?  Sad

In any case, the future of long haul F/C is at hand, and without a doubt the asian flag, and euro flagged carriers have it spot on over the us flags.
Strange, tho...they do a job this phenomenal-outstanding above all-and believe it or NOT still make a nice profit at it. I often wonder, with this litany of red ink and despair in the US industry surrounding our flag carriers....do any of the CEO's, Arpey, Steenland(sp??), Tilton...do they ever fly any of these foreign carriers?
I'd cry too if I were them, no better yet, quit and go work for the competition.
One has just got to wonder.....as the saying goes "show up, pay attention, learn from your mistakes and move forward!"

Cheers!

Flight 7E7  Confused


User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 16674 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16):
Personally I'm interested to see what BA come up with...they set the bar in 1996 with the flat bed and are planning on doing a refurb along with Club World later in the year.

There has been no comment from BA on an upgrade to the First product, however the Club World cabin should improve quite a bit. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product(when they let the wrld see it).



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User currently offlineRpaillard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 16612 times:

USADreamliner> your program sounds great!
Well, just a little problem:

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 14):
Included in your First Class fare: An amazing tour to the wild and barbarian Economy Class ( don't feed the people please).

Euh, I will be part of this folks, unfortunately Big grin


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 16407 times:

I still don't understand the concept of that cheap "mini-bar" in the EK 777-300ER seat. Why would anyone want a warm can of juice, especially if all you have to do is press a button and ask a FA for a chilled glass of the same? It reminds me of a really bad mini-version of something you'd see in a cheap Marriott.

User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 40
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 16256 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 16):
nally I'm not a fan of the ruby studded, gold lined, bling factor of the EK cabin decor

I agree. I saw a bit on TV about the frightful Burj hotel in Dubai and the two look remarkably revolting.  vomit 


User currently offlineStevenG From Netherlands, joined Oct 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 16031 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
I believe one of the things planned for the A380 are private bedrooms for those willing to pay more to sleep in private vs. the big comfy chair in First. I've also heard casinos but that wasn't limited to First.

Didn't PR already offer private bedrooms in First Class in their 747's back in the 70's-80's?


25 OOer : I like the idea of the cheerleaders in the shower....
26 Aerofan : Hi BHXDT Virgin's is actually a business class product. OK I have to admit - It is better than most carriers' FC product.
27 BHXDTW : Ok that has to be the best idea I think anyone has ever come up with for an airline product, Im writing it up now to hand to Sir Michael to clear up
28 Dsa : A whole bedroom would be brilliant, more privacy for whatever you want to do? DSA>>>
29 SWISSER : I think so they do! Currently they hire only them, but certainly look out for future apllications. If you have some language skills and customer serv
30 BHXDTW : well I dont want to start a BMI war but thats not really suprising on BMI's part. I have to say that the leaders in the field are now VS and EK... I
31 Jaysit : Oh, the Burj is far, far, far more bling. I just don't get it.
32 Tifoso : Airlines should probably make their onboard internet free for F passengers. Some of the J products are so impressive with lie flat seats, that I wonde
33 Aussiestu : BA is due to also relaunch First this year. Very much about time and hopefully they will look at things like the 'stainless steel' accessories. I can
34 Post contains links and images Fbgdavidson : Sorry, must be getting rumour mixed up with the truth. There was some word from BA cabin crew that F would be reduced to 10 seats. But AVOD will be p
35 Evan767 : Anybody ever seen Soul Plane? There you go.. Seriously though, one of those bathrooms (Lavs) featured on Soul Plane doesn't sound like such a bad idea
36 Comorin : Greetings from the St Martins Lane in London, a South Beach wannabee... Real First Class is: 1. Limo Check-In, like VS Upper Class 2. Cabin Crew not b
37 StevenG : Indeed, I get the impression that Emirates has been inspired by MTV's Pimp my Ride! Maybe time to start a new forum, called Pimp my Cabin!
38 HZ747300 : Finally, someone is talking sense. Also, kudos to the chap that mentioned slip & fall liabilities. Casinos will most likely be inseat, on your PTV. O
39 Babybus : I think all First Class's are merging into the same product: Flat bed, "Ottoman", private space etc. I'd like to see private rooms for First class. It
40 Jaysit : The luxury and comfort levels available for First Class passengers on top notch airlines is already at a maximum taking into account the tight environ
41 Thowman : I am not sure about the 19 year old cheerleaders in the shower. I think a hot tub complete with Japanese massage girls a la "You only live twice" on
42 SWISSER : So you would rather enjoy a military drill that says: EAT! DUR's (catering term for Dinner Upon Request) is regarded as a nice feature by F Pax. And
43 Post contains links JumboForever : Don't know for the shower but this company is actually looking for A380 Shower and Lavatory Models Designers. http://www.bishop-gmbh.com/index2.php?co
44 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : Good list! Out of interest is this a 'dream and never likely to happen' list or in your opinion is it realistic? For example what consists an 'absurd
45 Fuffla : Seems airlines like to use each-other's first class and business class seats now. MH has taken TG's NZ has taken VS's I know it is not taking, since t
46 Post contains links Onetogo : Hi all, long time reader, first time poster. I'm wondering about the suites shown in http://www.airliners.net/open.file/922524/L/ It looks like there
47 Post contains images AerospaceFan : They already have a place for anesthetics on board. It's called the cocktail cart. [Edited 2006-02-02 06:38:47]
48 Ikramerica : The future of first class is that it will disappear as it becomes too extravagant and as Business class gets better and better and longer range and la
49 AerospaceFan : I'm holding out for sleeper cabins. Mini-staterooms where you can shut out the world and just fall into deep slumber for six or seven hours. That woul
50 Fbgdavidson : There are indeed doors and they shut but they do not come right over the seat or got the ceiling. If you were tall and contorted enough you could pee
51 Aeronuts : Why think in the box? Pull the entire F class out of the standard plane, that way the 20K GBP people don't have to fly with the "little people". The B
52 Tbear815 : Let's look at domestic United States first class. UA is doing a pretty good job with the p.s. trans-con. AA is now following suit. Granted, the LCC's
53 Fbgdavidson : I don't have any problems with flying with dwarves or midgets...they probably drink less of the booze.
54 CXtra : what do you mean by 'sq lost the plot a while ago'? ok, the f class product has been around since 1998, i think, and raffles since around 2002, but s
55 BHXDTW : Ok, let my clarify what I mean... SQ are still one of the worlds best airlines, I worked for them I should know... The comments I received from Pax w
56 Post contains images CXtra : thanks for the clarification
57 Don81603 : Sorry, but union rules limit the amount of dancing to to 45 minutes per hour, up to a maximum of 3 hours per flight. Don't want the Teamsters coming
58 Chrisrad : I think you'll find MH started their cabin upgrades before TG, in any case JAL also use the same business class seats.
59 Post contains images Gr8Circle : A massage parlour?
60 Post contains images Ikramerica : Not in my experience. Those guys can party! As for first class, it's the only way to fly. Except when you can't.
61 Post contains images Comorin : Actually YES! I hate making the complicated choices that DUR entails. I'm paying good money for NOT having to choose - seriously, it's like having a
62 Onetogo : Wouldnt this present considerable security risk as a passenger would easily be able to conceal inapropriate actions that would normally be detectable
63 Post contains links and images Fbgdavidson : Ewww. All about 62A/K, 64A/K MyAviation.net photo: Photo © Fraser Davidson What is the link between having sex and security risk? You could just
64 LACA773 : Which carrier has the best first class amentity kits? Are there any sites where you can purchase them? Thanks for the info!! BTW, I love BA's F cabin.
65 Post contains images CXtra : try ebay ... as for mh/tg i don't think they look similar at all. mh have all that tacky plastic as i've mentioned before on another thread. tg looks
66 Moparman : All this is fine and good, but I have a slightly diffrent view on things. I don't think 1st Class will change very much at all. Yes in very large airc
67 Post contains links and images Chrisrad : Exactly what is the difference?? They are both from the same manufacturer, the only difference is the colour. View Large View MediumPhoto © Joul
68 Post contains images CXtra : ok...sorry - i didn't mean to offend our mh fans. as you say, it is the colour that differentiates them and gives the more 'plasticky' appearance. tg
69 Post contains links and images Chrisrad : Not offending me, I much prefer TG's colour schemes as well, it's just your post was implying that they were different seats. What do you say about F
70 BHXDTW : Good call... how did it go Comorin ?? haha Does anyone know if EI ae going to improve their Business class product with their new Airbus ?!
71 CXtra : hmm...i don't like the long wooden panel down the middle on tg - it doesn't look individual enough to each suite. but i still think mh shouldn't have
72 Chrisrad : I think MH have gone for a more modern sleek look, without any fake wood or gold fittings etc. Though a little more creative use of colour wouldn't h
73 Comorin : No luck! By the time I got there the place was packed. Hopefully you'll drop in there on behalf of the rest of us! This heavenly creature leaves for
74 StarGuy : I think that the bar Virgin Atlantic currently has, goes further than any other airline, added to that, VS offers dedicated in flight beauty therapist
75 EI321 : A revamp of EIs l/h business class is definitly on the cards (not sure of the plans for s/h) when new aircraft arrive and also, its likely that the c
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