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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

Just needed to book a one-way from Helsinki to Frankfurt. Here are the prices:

Finnair - 98.09 EUR
SAS - about 120 EUR
and the best:

Lufthansa

Economy class not available for oneways. Full flex business 1019 EUR.

No wonder my SEN account has no miles left in it!


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User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

Gimme some dates to work with....


Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

You could always book a return ticket and throw away the second flight coupon...


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

I booked AY already and that's what I wanted anyway.

Tried a few dates in March on lufthansa.com and the cheapest on LH was always 1019eur. Economy class showed no results at all just a message not available.



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

Return tickets HEL-FRA-HEL on LH available for 188 Euro incl. ticket ripoff charge.


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 3):
Tried a few dates in March on lufthansa.com and the cheapest on LH was always 1019eur. Economy class showed no results at all just a message not available

Thats correct. On a oneway basis, LH only sell a COW fare at GBP647.00/EUR1019.00. Somewhat antiquated pricing system.

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 2):
You could always book a return ticket and throw away the second flight coupon...

Not good advice.



Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 5):
Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 2):
You could always book a return ticket and throw away the second flight coupon...

Not good advice.

I have heard those horror stories too, but never actually met anyone who has experienced any of those alleged negative effects in person.



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

Come on guys, in my opinion is Lufthansa's outstanding service on such a 1.5 hour oneway flight definitely 1019 EUR worth.

Patrick


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 7):
Come on guys, in my opinion is Lufthansa's outstanding service on such a 1.5 hour oneway flight definitely 1019 EUR worth.

The lack of oneway fares is just a favor on behalf of LH to the travelling public - they want you to have a second chance to experience their heartwarming and lavish service on European Peasant Class flights. Big grin



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineLp0815 From Singapore, joined Oct 2005, 219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

LH are total crap, they suck big time, they don't know how to run an airline profitably, their service is horrible, the F/As are just a bunch of unfriendly Bavaria-style Oktoberfest-Brunhildes; their Y-class is less comfortable than Guantanamo Bay, the seat pitch isn't even worth a description, the IFE is non-existent and the food is not edible even for pigs.

Blablabla.
Grow up, kids!

 Yeah sure



Time waits for nobody
User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

KLM is even worse. They charge you EUR 737 (ironic?  ) for a one-way flight HEL-AMS; and then you even get an economy seat!
I know why they do it, but it's crap anyway.

[Edited 2006-02-01 15:58:42]

User currently offlineLp0815 From Singapore, joined Oct 2005, 219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

Last time I checked, LY wanted to charge my mother-in-law 3599 USD for a one-way TLV - FRA in Economy.

Now, go and flame LY.
But no, since the game here is only about LH nobody's gonna say a word.
If you allegedly all know that LH is oh so crap, write a book about it or just shut up.
This forum would be better off without it!



Time waits for nobody
User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1073 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

can anyone tell me another LH ticket option???

check out a flight VIE to SKG (vie MUC)

the cheapest ticket is 1500 € in eco basic. they fly codeshare with Aegean.
for comparison: athens is available couple of times a day for about 260 €, a flight ATH - SKG on aegean starts at 30€.

Can anyone tell me the meaning of this codesharing?????



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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Quoting Lp0815 (Reply 9):
they don't know how to run an airline profitably

Maybe most of your points are true, but definately not this one. They are one of the most profitable airlines around. That is what it makes so hard to criticize them.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 4):
Return tickets HEL-FRA-HEL on LH available for 188 Euro incl. ticket ripoff charge.

Actually not too bad - they probably have matched AY who I believe is below 200 on normal fares (return).

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 5):
Somewhat antiquated pricing system.

Indeed, and geez - 1019 EUR one way... At least I'd expect that money to get me 1-year return ticket in C.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 7):
Come on guys, in my opinion is Lufthansa's outstanding service on such a 1.5 hour oneway flight definitely 1019 EUR worth.

I'd pay 20e more for that C meal (HEL gets the full thing) - make it non changeable Z class or whatever. About 20e more if I didn't otherwise have lounge access. BA's I class fares are rather reasonable on shorthauls IIRC.

Oops, didn't I forgot the LH European Private Bed - a wonderful C class seat with huge legroom and massive seat width definitely worth 1K. Big grin

Kidding aside, I find it hilarious that LH tries to get these fares while partner SK sells the same for 120 EUR via CPH. (SK/LH usually has same fares ex-Finland - you can fly either, obviously not in this case)

BTW, that AY HEL-FRA base fare is EUR 66, Ryanair on TMP-HHN was EUR 49 (and that would have required me to stay overnight also as I'm connecting to CX).

I wonder who comes up with these AY fare basis codes:

My friend's HEL-BKK was AGOGO
This one is ALUCKY Silly



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User currently offlineMaddy From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

What I like about LH´s booking system is that when you are flexible you can choose the option +/- 3 days and sometimes you can get a hugh discount. Probably there is a hugh demand for that flight and LH is a company like everyone else and wants to make some money out of it.

PS: Have you ever heard of the Sunday-rule (don´t know if it´s called like that) but when you have the weekend/ Saturday-Sunday-night between you indeed "just" pay 188€ like TriStar500 said.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

Quoting Maddy (Reply 15):
the option +/- 3 days and sometimes you can get a hugh discount.

I like that too, Finnair has the same.

Quoting Maddy (Reply 15):
Have you ever heard of the Sunday-rule (don´t know if it´s called like that) but when you have the weekend/ Saturday-Sunday-night between you indeed "just" pay 188€ like TriStar500 said.

Yes, but the AY/SK fares have no restrictions as long as the class is available, simply a one-way ticket like the low costs. Obviously nonref/nonchanges though at that price.



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User currently offlineDTManiac From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 689 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting Lp0815 (Reply 11):
Now, go and flame LY.
But no, since the game here is only about LH nobody's gonna say a word.
If you allegedly all know that LH is oh so crap, write a book about it or just shut up.
This forum would be better off without it!

Welcome to my respected user list.

I personally like LH, never made any bad experience with them.

Frederik



Gig 'em Aggies!!!
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

Quoting Lp0815 (Reply 9):
LH are total crap, they suck big time, they don't know how to run an airline profitably, their service is horrible, the F/As are just a bunch of unfriendly Bavaria-style Oktoberfest-Brunhildes; their Y-class is less comfortable than Guantanamo Bay, the seat pitch isn't even worth a description, the IFE is non-existent and the food is not edible even for pigs.

Sorry but your attempt of being sarcastic failed big time because everything you wrote is actually true (well, with exeption of the profitably statement).

Patrick


User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2340 times:

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 5):
Not good advice.

Should be alright shouldn't it? I don't think that the carrier is likely to recharge the clients credit card the COW fare if they simply don't show up for the return. We still book quite a few dummy returns - what we can't do is whip off the first coupon anymore (especially as most carriers have gone to etix) - but I would be interested if you know something I don't. I have heard, btw, of Eurotunel doing that to clients who take advantage of cheap day rtns, but don't rtn....



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2306 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 18):
Quoting Lp0815 (Reply 9):
LH are total crap, they suck big time, they don't know how to run an airline profitably, their service is horrible, the F/As are just a bunch of unfriendly Bavaria-style Oktoberfest-Brunhildes; their Y-class is less comfortable than Guantanamo Bay, the seat pitch isn't even worth a description, the IFE is non-existent and the food is not edible even for pigs.

Sorry but your attempt of being sarcastic failed big time because everything you wrote is actually true (well, with exeption of the profitably statement).

Thanks for supporting the German economy by paying top cash for a mediocre product though. Big grin



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineRoyisher From Israel, joined Aug 2003, 73 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2247 times:

Well I would never use LH's online booking system, the fares there are terrible.

I booked myself on a flight from TLV to IAD and back on Class D, at a reasonable price for business, in their site, they wanted from me 3900 Euro's while I got half of that via my Travel Agent by requesting the booking class I wanted.

Simply book this via a travel agent, and please do not flame LH, LH is great, better then many airlines out there, I enjoy each flight with them.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

Quoting Royisher (Reply 21):
I booked myself on a flight from TLV to IAD and back on Class D, at a reasonable price for business, in their site, they wanted from me 3900 Euro's while I got half of that via my Travel Agent by requesting the booking class I wanted.

Finland is not such a market. I know fares can be beaten by travel agents in markets such as Thailand, Hong Kong, China etc.

Quoting Royisher (Reply 21):
please do not flame LH, LH is great, better then many airlines out there, I enjoy each flight with them.

You must fly F all the time.

LH F is the only very nice product they offer, C is good to absolutely terrible, Y - I won't go anywhere near LH Y anomore if a reasonable alternative is available. And before you flame me, I have been SEN for 5 years, and had 680K miles in my account. Last 360K burnt on SQ First Class as I'm sick of the enhanchements Craphansa and Miles&Less are feeding to their customers.



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User currently offlineRoyisher From Israel, joined Aug 2003, 73 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

Lufthansa747, I won't flame you.

I'm a LH SEN myself for the past 2 years, and flew First only ones, I fly in C class only, tend to fly on the new product only, because it is served to Israel, but I've never had any bad exprience in LH's C class, I did have some bad exprience in their SEN Lounge and in more lounges, but other then that, everything's okay. maybe I'm lucky?

As for the Finland market, I guess you mean the whole european market? or only finland, or scandinavian? because each time I try to book flights via their website they want to charge me twice then what I would pay to my travel agent, and those destinations are for example: Barcelona, Stockholm, Amsterdam, London... and that really upsets me actually, that I can't book online on the booking class I want, so it'll be the cheapest way for me, if of course I'm not looking for a refundable ticket / to be able to do changes...


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

Yeah my complaints are mostly about old C and Y. And of course the SEN lounges, mostly FRA SEN B, which used to be terrible. Apparently it's been renovated somewhat.

But as far as enhanching M&L, please, who can call 50% reduction of benefits "enhanchement"...



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25 Post contains images Lp0815 : Actually, I was not being sarcastic, I was just quoting the remarks that you usually state in all seriousness. You might not have gotten that picture
26 Post contains images Sabena332 : Which I mean in all seriousness because it is fact. Patrick
27 Lp0815 : Love to quote myself.... Lp0815 PS: did you get the picture this time? I guess not because now it is even harder than before...
28 Post contains images Sabena332 : Still negative. There we have the reason. Patrick
29 Beowulf : Craphansa has its strong sides and its weaker sides. Overall, their business model seems to work out for them. If LH is too expensive and AY offers a
30 Post contains images TriStar500 : Now this would be downright logical, Nick. The other - albeit less constructive, but more comfortable - option would be not to fly LH (or any other c
31 Sabena332 : Exactly what I am doing. Why should I write a letter or an eMail when I can have it easier? Crap airlines won't get my money, plain and simple. Patri
32 Lcagmdeleven : Sabena332 I am so tired about your statements about LH. Nobody is pressing you to use this airline, so be happy with Northwest. Your statements are so
33 Sabena332 : Then don't read them, plain and simple. Patrick
34 Post contains images Lufthansa747 : I don't think so. A quick look at Y class on PEK-FRA, BKK-FRA, MNL-FRA etc has IMHO always shown the same - westerners are few and far between. LH su
35 Beowulf : Fair enough! As I said, it's a free market where you can choose another supplier. I don't see a lot of logic complaining about LH when there is an al
36 BOAC911 : If you don't like Lufthansa, avoid flying them. Put your money where your mouth is. Vote with your dollars (or whatever currency you happen to pay tic
37 Lp0815 : Don't post them, even simpler.....
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