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Plane Hits Deer During Landing  
User currently offlineGritzngravee From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 128 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 14994 times:

They do have a perimeter fence as it states in the article. Then how are they getting in? Very dangerous!!!!!


http://www.wsbtv.com/news/6683844/detail.html

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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 14965 times:

You ever seen how high a deer can jump? Quite high. Deer are a big problem in the Southeast. Because of hunting regulations the population has exploded. At the same time urban sprawl has begun to encroach more and more on their habitat causing issues as well. The limits should be raised for hunters to try to control the population. Urban sprawl will continue to be an issue but that will be much harder to control.


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User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14803 times:

Here the proof: deer can't fly  Smile

User currently offlineSATX From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2840 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14782 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
The limits should be raised for hunters to try to control the population. Urban sprawl will continue to be an issue but that will be much harder to control.

Weren't hunters the ones who were allowed to kill everything that previously kept the deer population in check? Yeah, that must be the answer. Just keep killing and encroaching until there's nothing left. I like it.



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User currently offlineNorCal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2459 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14751 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
You ever seen how high a deer can jump?


A deer managed to jump over our 8ft fence and into our yard, why I don't know, but it broke 2 of its legs in the process


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14703 times:

Has happened before. Jimmy Johnson of the Dallas Cowboys damm near got killed hitting a couple of them.

Quoting SATX (Reply 3):
Weren't hunters the ones who were allowed to kill everything that previously kept the deer population in check? Yeah, that must be the answer.

Actually it would have been the wolves and the bears, but over the last century those predators have been killed off. The only one left is man.

Besides hunting isn't bad, venison is good eating, and you usually don't have to worry about all the hormones and drugs that cows get shot up with.



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User currently offlineGritzngravee From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14660 times:

Quoting SATX (Reply 3):

Weren't hunters the ones who were allowed to kill everything that previously kept the deer population in check? Yeah, that must be the answer. Just keep killing and encroaching until there's nothing left. I like it.


That's what I thought as well!!!!


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14645 times:

Quoting NorCal (Reply 4):
A deer managed to jump over our 8ft fence and into our yard, why I don't know, but it broke 2 of its legs in the process

My parents have a 6 foot high fence around the family vineyard and there are always deer in it grazing. As a nuisance animal we can shoot and kill them whenever we want but must bury them and can't use them for food.

Quoting SATX (Reply 3):
Weren't hunters the ones who were allowed to kill everything that previously kept the deer population in check? Yeah, that must be the answer. Just keep killing and encroaching until there's nothing left. I like it.

Simmer down Sparky. Of course we haven't been too good in coexisting with other animals suc as bears and wolves. We are starting to learn our lessons and doing better but some of the controls on hunting should be lifted. I'm not saying get rid of all of them and let anyone shoot however many they want. Raise the limits is one way to control it better. Urban sprawl is inevitable but Bessemer is an industrialized area of Birmingham that has been there for years so it isn't really the reason behind this incident. I was giving some reasons why deer could have been in the airport but you have responded with a smartaleck comment. Why not make a suggestion instead of just attacking?



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User currently offlineJAXFLL From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14520 times:

Quoting SATX (Reply 3):
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
The limits should be raised for hunters to try to control the population. Urban sprawl will continue to be an issue but that will be much harder to control.

Weren't hunters the ones who were allowed to kill everything that previously kept the deer population in check? Yeah, that must be the answer. Just keep killing and encroaching until there's nothing left. I like it.

What an ignorant statement. Proper hunting is done to manage the population of animals. Let's say hunting stopped tomorrow. What would happen? The population of deer would increase. The deer population would continue to increase until the area of land that they lived on could not support the population (lack of food, water, etc). The deer then move into other areas to find food, water, etc. The deer would eventually eat up enough of the food that it could not support the population of deer - then deer die of starvation.

I don't know if you realize it or not, but where you live used to be some animal's habitat. Don't like the fact of urbanization of areas and hunting? Give up your land first.

As for the deer on the airport - not a big surprise. It's an open area with little/no predators in the area. A perfect place for an animal to go. It's not much different than when birds are flying around an airport.


User currently offlineDb373 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 238 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14463 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 7):
Why not make a suggestion instead of just attacking?



Quoting JAXFLL (Reply 8):
What an ignorant statement. Proper hunting is done to manage the population of animals.

What I find funny is that it's okay for humans to kill innocent deer, but when a mother bear attacks and kills a stupid idiot who decides they want the child bear-cub to take home with them as a souvenir, we label the mother a ferocious species and kill it. How messed up is that?



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14443 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 5):
Actually it would have been the wolves and the bears, but over the last century those predators have been killed off. The only one left is man.

Or, you can be like the geniuses at the Pennsylvania Game Comission. Reintroduce coyotes to those areas! In the past 5 years, hundreds of family pet dogs, and hundreds of farmers' sheep and cattle have been killed off by these bloodthirsty packhunters, and a dozen or so humans have been attacked while walking through the woods, being in their backyards, etc.... all because Pennsylvania thought it would be a "natural" way of controlling the deer population.


User currently onlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14403 times:

I lived in Birmingham for a while and grew up in south Alabama. I have been to the Bessemer Air Show and been to a helicopter crash out there as a paramedic. All the woods around there probably have some prize bucks.

I have seen many deer walk up to a fence and hop right over it, no running, just jumping.

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/caer/ce/eek/critter/mammal/fawn.htm

Don’t let their skinny legs fool you. Deer are able to run up to 40 miles per hour, jump 9 foot fences, and swim 13 miles per hour. Wow, that’s fast!

I was going to guess a 10' fence would be enough, but had to look and see if I could find any facts.

I see a few on occasion near the forest preserves around Chicago and it's such an awesome sight. I do miss the country.

M


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14332 times:

Actually second 'Deer Hit' in the same day:

2006-02-02 902NS C172 Accident (Damage Substantial) BIRMINGHAM,AL
ACFT HIT A DEER AT TAKEOFF WHICH BENT THE GEAR, DIVERTED AND ON LANDING, SKIDDED OFF THE RWY, BIRMINGHAM, AL


2006-02-02 956SB BE55 Incident (Damage Minor) CLARKSVILLE,TN
ACFT ON DEPARTURE STRUCK A DEER AND THE GEAR COLLAPSED, CLARKSVILLE, TN

Credit: http://icarus.red1aviation.com/jsp/accident.jsp?mode=all


Jimbo

[Edited 2006-02-02 23:59:45]


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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14213 times:

Quoting Db373 (Reply 9):
What I find funny is that it's okay for humans to kill innocent deer, but when a mother bear attacks and kills a stupid idiot who decides they want the child bear-cub to take home with them as a souvenir, we label the mother a ferocious species and kill it. How messed up is that?

Well I wouldn't consider deer to be innocent when they are eating our grape vines thus hurting our income source and profits.

As for your bear argument how often has that even happened? Plus anyone who would do that deserves to get mauled.

Unfortunately (for the animals) we are the top of the food chain given our technological advances (and opposable thumbs) over the animals. It sucks that such a bear would be labeled as dangerous and be shot. Peraps they should be taken somewhere away from humans. Unless you just want us all to crawl back in a cave we are always going to have issues coexisting with wild animals.



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User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14187 times:

For all those "Africa is backwards" people who bring up cows at Port Harcourt everytime Nigerian aviation is discussed, turns out the issue also exists in your backyard  Smile I will be sure to bookmark this thread!

User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3986 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14113 times:

This thread reminds me of a Bill Engvall "here's your sign" joke. I don't remember exactly how it goes but it's something like this.

Bill is on a small plane that hits a deer after landing. He calls his wife to tell her the news, and his wife goes.....were you on the ground when you hit the deer? Bill then says, nope we ran into santa at 30,000 feet! Here's your sign.



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User currently offlineLumberton From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 4708 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14093 times:

If this would have happened in Texas, someone would have grabbed the road kill and had it processed immediately!  Big grin


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14032 times:

Shoot, I was a passenger in a North Central CV580 when we struck a moose that strolled onto the runway while we were landing. The poor 580 needed some first aid to get it flying again.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29800 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14032 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 17):
Shoot, I was a passenger in a North Central CV580 when we struck a moose that strolled onto the runway while we were landing. The poor 580 needed some first aid to get it flying again.

I can imagine. That is 1000 lbs or so that the plane hit.



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13958 times:

Actual sound of deer hitting vehicle!

http://www.area51newmexico.com/simpsons/sounds/dohadeer.wav


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4118 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13949 times:

"Doh! A Deer! A female Deer!"

User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13936 times:

Quoting SATX (Reply 3):
Weren't hunters the ones who were allowed to kill everything that previously kept the deer population in check? Yeah, that must be the answer. Just keep killing and encroaching until there's nothing left. I like it.

Yes, the Georgia dragon hunting season has been vicious this year...

 Wink


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3506 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13925 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 13):
Well I wouldn't consider deer to be innocent when they are eating our grape vines thus hurting our income source and profits.

Deer don't understand capitalism. They do however, have a very strong understanding of food. I suggest a fence.  Wink

Any word on whether or not the deer was OK? I'm sure we're all very concerned...



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User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 13905 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 10):
Or, you can be like the geniuses at the Pennsylvania Game Comission. Reintroduce coyotes to those areas! In the past 5 years, hundreds of family pet dogs, and hundreds of farmers' sheep and cattle have been killed off by these bloodthirsty packhunters, and a dozen or so humans have been attacked while walking through the woods, being in their backyards, etc.... all because Pennsylvania thought it would be a "natural" way of controlling the deer population.

 checkmark 

The Wisconsin DNR decided to reintroduce wolves here about ten years ago. They reproduced faster than expected and we now have the same problems (except no reported attacks on humans.) Quite a few domestic dogs as well as all sorts of livestock have been killed by these wolves. I guess we forgot why our citizens killed them off 100 years ago.

Oh, and our deer populaton is stronger than ever.


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 13720 times:

Quoting Lumberton (Reply 16):
If this would have happened in Texas, someone would have grabbed the road kill and had it processed immediately!

There's a good chance it happened here as well. We took out a nice sized turkey with a 182 in Tuskegee once and it was mighty tasty! The airport manager didn't much appreciate it, she's a vegetarian who actually kept a turkey as a pet.



Where are all of my respected members going?
25 Lincoln : There was a discussion in Tech/Ops recently and a (commercial -- think it was a Beech 1900) pilot who was involved in a deer strike chimed in... It ha
26 Tornado82 : Tough shit, it's your plane! Boss at my internship 2 summers ago was one of the attackees. He was training beagles on flushing rabbits and they tried
27 DeltaGator : Read farther up. I said we had a fence all around the property. Unfortunately not enough it seems.
28 Tornado82 : You'd need about a 12 footer to be honest, or maybe a 10 footer plus barbed wire, but that's kind of cruel
29 DeltaGator : Nothing's too cruel for them. I've suggested that we hang a few of their carcasses around the vineyard as a reminder to the herd but the damn things
30 ETStar : Yeah yeah yeah...
31 SkyWestFan : Yikes..... You should see the problem we have at Mooney airport in Butte MT. We've had 4 strikes in the last 18 months. Two Horizon Q400s, a SKW CRJ,
32 BHMBAGLOCK : Actually, it was hers. Just put a small dent in the leading edge about 6" inboard of the strut. Made one hell of a racket!
33 Post contains images DeltaGuy : I used to work at Cecil Field here in Florida...deer all over the place. Airport ops used to go out and bag 8-10 deer a night, since there's well over
34 Devil505x : I know this used to happen at my local airport until the those hippie animal rights activists got wind of it and then it became more important to pro
35 DeltaGator : When was that converted from a military facility? I know it's been a wile now but I just don't remember. Ever get an alligator on the runway? That wo
36 ChiGB1973 : How lucky is that to happen so close to SAV, if you have to look at a good side of it? I guess the deer being maimed or killed by an aircraft, not to
37 Chris133 : There have been numerous deer strikes on the BWI airfield. One nasty one was in '01 when WN's California One hit a deer with the number one main gear.
38 Post contains images BAW716 : An unfortunate accident. OK, we know the pilots OK...what about the deer? No news there. Hmmm. Not good. They should at least report on the condition
39 Gritzngravee : Ever get an alligator on the runway? That would be interesting. I'm surprised we don't hear about that happening more often down there. MCO has a ton
40 DeltaGuy : Haha, hardly...when they were building 17R/35L, they found a whole bunch of huuuuuge gators...12 footers, big ones like that. They just lived in that
41 AndrewUber : FlexJet almost lost a Challenger to a runway deer strike in 1999. I don't remember which airport it was - I know it was out west though. The deer ran
42 N908AW : Not messed up at all. Actually, it all depends on whether or not you believe in this
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