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Routes For DL's EMB-170s Out Of SLC?  
User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, tried to do a search but didn't find it. I have 2 questions:

1.) Which regional carriers is operating the EMB-170s for DL out of SLC? It's ASA, correct?

2.) Which routes are the EMB-170s currently flying out of SLC?

Reason I'm asking is that I booked an ASA CRJ-700 flight from SLC-LAS and I'm praying for that one in a million that one of the new EMB-170s will get sub'd on that flight. Slim chance I know.. but hey, no harm in hoping!  Smile

Steve

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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3698 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3767 times:

1) Shuttle America, part of Chautauqua.

2) SLC-CMH, SLC-JFK (via CMH), SLC-IND, SLC-CLE, SLC-DTW are the only ones I can think of. There are probably more.

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[Edited 2006-02-02 23:35:16]


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User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3751 times:

Each of the following have EMB-170 flights on Delta/Shuttle America from SLC

SLC-BNA (1x)
SLC-PSC (2x) (+3x CRJ)
SLC-DTW (2x)
SLC-CLE (2x)
SLC-IND (2x)
SLC-CMH (2x)

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User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

I thought I remember reading somewhere that MEM was getting one, but I may be wrong.


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User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

We flew Memphis the end of last year and January twice a day from SLC. However, we have not operated those flights since the end of January. I'm not sure if it went to another DCI carrier or if it was discontinued completely.

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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8091 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

I know I keep saying this but... DL really needs to upgrade CLE-SLC. I dunno about the other stations but all our flights are packed and we regularly have to kick bags/pax off. A 737 would surely make money.


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User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2271 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3607 times:

Quote:
dunno about the other stations but all our flights are packed and we regularly have to kick bags/pax off.

I'm hearing the same about the CMH-SLC flights, especially the morning flight to SLC.


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6479 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3531 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 5):
I know I keep saying this but... DL really needs to upgrade CLE-SLC. I dunno about the other stations but all our flights are packed and we regularly have to kick bags/pax off. A 737 would surely make money.

Problem is that the next plane size DL could upgrade to would be the 738 which has 150 seats....more than twice the capacity of the EMB170.

Even if your CLE-SLC has a 100% LF on an EMB170 that would translate to less than a 50% LF on the 738. If anything, DL could add a third frequency connecting to a different bank of flights.


User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3530 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 7):

Problem is that the next plane size DL could upgrade to would be the 738 which has 150 seats....more than twice the capacity of the EMB170.

The MD8x/90 couldn't make that run?


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6729 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

what happened to the E70 RDU-SLC flight? Was it substitute with the 738 RDU-LAX flight? Aren't the RDU-SLC flights usually at least at 80% capacity if not more?


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User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 8):

Isn't MD-90 capacity wise close to a 737-800? And I think Delta avoids sending MD-88s to SLC. However, they still have 737-200s and 737-300s, although i think 737-200s are left out of SLC as well, but both of those have range to make it, and are smaller than a 737-800.

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User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3068 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3498 times:

Glad to hear that some of these flights out of SLC seem to have good loads. DL has done a good job of building up SLC in the past couple of years. Good to see a legacy expanding out west!

User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5997 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

N766UA: Thanks for saying that. I was thinking of non-reving back on one of those flights. Guess I'll go another way.

ASLAX



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3484 times:

As PIT has fewer and fewer choices to the western US as time goes on, it wouldn't hurt Delta to run 2x E70 to PIT either.

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7343 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3470 times:

DTW-SLC is very hit or miss on the E-170's. Sometimes is completely full, other times there will only be about 20 people on board. Traffic has picked up now that its hitting the busy part of ski season. Nov & Dec was very light on this route.

User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1440 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3458 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 9):
what happened to the E70 RDU-SLC flight

I think that was upgraded to a 737-800!

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 2):
SLC-PSC (2x) (+3x CRJ)

I dont tihnk so, PSC only gets 4XCRJ from SLC. Used to get 2X737-300 and 4XCRJ, but they cut back in December.

Maybe you meant PSP? They get em!


User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2221 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

Quoting S5FA170 (Reply 4):
We flew Memphis the end of last year and January twice a day from SLC. However, we have not operated those flights since the end of January. I'm not sure if it went to another DCI carrier or if it was discontinued completely

MEM is now operated 1x daily on a CR7 operated by ASA

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 9):
what happened to the E70 RDU-SLC flight?

RDU-SLC is indeed, as mentioned by OOer, now a daily 738 (mainline)


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3407 times:

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 2):
SLC-PSC (2x)



Quoting OOer (Reply 15):
I dont tihnk so, PSC only gets 4XCRJ from SLC

No, SLC-PSC does operate with 2X Daily E70.
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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6729 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3407 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 16):
RDU-SLC is indeed, as mentioned by OOer, now a daily 738 (mainline)

Sorry.. I should clarify. RDU-SLC has always been daily 738 since inception. The running rumor was that an additional E70 flight was to be added. I was wondering if it was still a possibility or if the LAX flight dissolved the need for the additional capacity.

How does the flight do anyway?



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User currently offlineKaniksu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

Quoting OOer (Reply 15):
I dont tihnk so, PSC only gets 4XCRJ from SLC. Used to get 2X737-300 and 4XCRJ, but they cut back in December.

Maybe you meant PSP? They get em!

SALT LAKE CITY, (SLC) to (PSC) 521mi
5:03 7:40 4036z 0 X7 CRJ
6:20 8:57 6440z 0 E70
9:10 11:40 4006z 0 X23 CRJ
Ops Daily eff Mar. 5

12:50 3:19 6460z 0 E70
4:05 6:38 3911z 0 X6 CRJ
Ops Daily eff Feb. 28

So does this mean the 737's will not be coming back to PSC? It was usually the reason why I flew Delta...


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3362 times:

At the airport today, someone was saying DC was gunna send the E70's to DEN!?!?


Next trip: SLC-LAX-JFK-LAX-SLC on AA, gotta say goodbye to my beloved 762!
User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3068 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3331 times:

Quoting OOer (Reply 15):
I dont tihnk so, PSC only gets 4XCRJ from SLC. Used to get 2X737-300 and 4XCRJ, but they cut back in December.

Check the new February Timetable - it shows twice daily on the E70, and 4x additionally on the CRJ.

Quoting Kaniksu (Reply 19):
So does this mean the 737's will not be coming back to PSC? It was usually the reason why I flew Delta...

Unfortunately PSC and GEG have both lost mainline again. These cities lost mainline, got it back for 2005, and now seem to have lost it again as DL has accelerated the retirement of planes, and reallocated 738s to more transcon and international routes. Would be nice to see mainline return to these cities for 1-2x daily - DL seems to have established a nice niche in Eastern Washington. Would be cool to see them add YKM too!


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7343 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

There will not be E-170's coming to DEN anytime soon. That would be a complete waste of the aircraft's capabilities. DL/S5 will continue to deploy the E-170's on the longer / thin routes primarily to the Midwest & Southeast from SLC that cannot be effectively served with a CR7 or a 738. Plus DL will need 2 E-170 aircraft for the soon to be launched LGA-ORD & LGA-DFW service.

User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8091 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3295 times:

Quoting AS739X (Reply 12):
N766UA: Thanks for saying that. I was thinking of non-reving back on one of those flights. Guess I'll go another way.

Yeah, some flights are okay...but I'd say the majority of our flights are full or near full. It's very tough to non-rev out to SLC anymore, but hey if it works and you see enough seats open...

Another frequency would certainly help. The morning flight always has at least a few bags come off and pax sent through ATL. Lucky for them both flights leave about the same time from adjacent gates... although it's still a pain.



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User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1440 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3253 times:

Well, I guess the PSC flights must be new. Also didnt BZN lose their mainline flights to SLC? And does BZN still have their Sat only 738 to ATL?

25 N1120A : Um, DL has several sizes in between Not quite as many, but close
26 DAL767400ER : How about exactly the same? Both the MD-90 and 738 seat 150 people. Only the 733 would be a viable option, and at 128 seats, also has over 50 seats m
27 DeltaRules : Is it likely that CMH or CLE (which was mentioned before) could have a flight upgraded from an E-170 to a 733 or M90 in the future? The aircraft data
28 FlyCMH : I don't know about CLE, but probably not for CMH, merely due to the fact that it's so much easier to schedule the 170s from CMH, as they are based he
29 ExpressJet_ERJ : You wont see a 733 Delta is getting rid of them. 732s probably cant make it that far. The thing I am suprised is that CMH-CVG isnt upgraded to a 170.
30 Post contains images DeltaRules : Me too...CMH-CVG was always fun on the 757. The last time I took it, we were climbing & were just South of CMH when we "started descent". I wish we s
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