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Ethiopian Airlines New Destinations, Summer Sched!  
User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6583 times:

Great news! Ethiopian is introducing Brussels in Belgium, Libreville in Gabon, Juba in Sudan, AND Dakar, Sénégal taking effect in the summer. Also many increases in service including Amsterdam, Stockholm, London Gatwick, Johannesburg, Mumbai, Delhi, Beijing, Khartoum, Cairo, Lusaka!

Details are posted at http://www.africanflyer.com

- Brussels will see 3x per week
- Juba 4x per week
- Libreville 4x per week
- Dakar 7x per week

[Edited 2006-02-03 08:57:58]

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User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6564 times:

Once they have the equipment, they could come to Japan. Would be nice to have them as an alternate to EK.

Seems like Ethiopian is really blooming. Just hope it brings trade and a possitive effect to the country too.

How is their service anyway? Anyone flown them?



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User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2526 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 6484 times:

Quoting ETStar (Thread starter):
Great news! Ethiopian is introducing Brussels in Belgium, Libreville in Gabon, Juba in Sudan, AND Dakar, Sénégal taking effect in the summer.

Is there a merket to Senegal?? Well if there is a market there, there should be one in Tunis...



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User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 890 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6453 times:

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 2):
Is there a merket to Senegal?? Well if there is a market there, there should be one in Tunis...

Of course there is a market to Senegal. Look over the fast growing expension of Air Senegal International to West Africa and in a near future to Central Africa.

Also, look at the 120% increase in one year of Royal Air Maroc traffic to Africa.

And there is definitively a huge demand between East and West Africa but there is still a lack of offer (just Kenya Airways and Ethiopian), in particular since the disappearance of Air Afrique, Cameroon Airlines and Air Gabon.

More and more people want to connect to Middle-East / Asia through Nairobi or Addis Abeba.


User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1289 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6408 times:

Read this about Brussels and it's great news! It may be in codeshare with SNBA which is even better. SNBA will now codeshare on 2 African "hubs" with Air Senegal Int'l and Ethiopian.

Maybe a chance for a 787 at BRU in a few years' time!



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6050 times:
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Will I ever see an ET plane doing regular services from Spain to Ethiopia????


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User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5946 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 5):
Will I ever see an ET plane doing regular services from Spain to Ethiopia????

Doubt it, especially in the near future. There is not much Spain-Ethiopia trade going on, and Spain mostly has ties to Northern Africa countries... Ethiopian used to fly to Madrid in the 60s or 70s however, which I think was only because of the ties between Ethiopia's Emperor and the rulers of Spain.


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5921 times:

Juba? What's a Juba?

I think it is great that ET is expanding. Their service is great. Hopefully they will upgrade some of their aircraft soon. Some of those 757s are clunkers.


User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5868 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 7):
I think it is great that ET is expanding. Their service is great. Hopefully they will upgrade some of their aircraft soon. Some of those 757s are clunkers.

Juba is the capital of the state of Central Equatoria in southern Sudan: http://www.futura-dtp.dk/Flysiden/KORT/Sudan.gif / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juba,_Sudan


User currently offlineMSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5800 times:

Hi ET Star , the link you provided needed a microscope to decipher the writing  Smile . Could you please tell me how many flights a week will CAI and JNB will get ?
Thanks in advance..



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User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5749 times:

Quoting MSYYZ (Reply 9):
Hi ET Star , the link you provided needed a microscope to decipher the writing Smile . Could you please tell me how many flights a week will CAI and JNB will get ?

MSYYZ,
Jo'burg will be upped to 5x per week from current 4x, and Cairo will go up to a total of 7 flights per week, 3x at night, 4x during the day (the latter being via Khartoum)


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5706 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 7):
Some of those 757s are clunkers.

This is opinion, right?
What is the basis for such an irresponsible remark?
Because the fact is Ethiopian aircraft are some of the best maintained aircraft not only in Africa, but worldwide.



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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5699 times:

Touchy, aren't we?
I've been on a couple of 757 flights and the planes were OLD. OLD OLD OLD. And not very nice.
I've heard they have newer ones. Hopefully the old ones will be sent to the scrapheap or sold or something.


User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5670 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 12):
I've been on a couple of 757 flights and the planes were OLD. OLD OLD OLD. And not very nice.

Hehhehe ... The last two 757s I was on actually looked pretty good, fitted with light gray interiors. Of course, they still are from the late 80s/early 90s and don't have PTVs. Kinda like flying AA or US 757s.

I also wish to say that the old dark interiors of Ethiopian's fleet did not do justice to the aircraft.


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

It is a toss-up for me.

On the Ethiopian planes I have been on, the interior is either blue or brown. If I'm not mistaken, neither of these are Ethiopian colors.


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5509 times:

didnt see BRU since years at least the ET 757Cargo flights?

nice than now BRU will get also the passenger flights.

regards
Avianca



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User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5126 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5393 times:

Quoting Centrair (Reply 1):
How is their service anyway? Anyone flown them?

= ET service is great. Significantly better than many Western carriers and probably on par with the second ring Asian carriers (KE, CI). Great cabin crew and renovations in ADD make it a good alternative transit point.

Quoting AF022 (Reply 12):
I've been on a couple of 757 flights and the planes were OLD. OLD OLD OLD. And not very nice.
I've heard they have newer ones.

= I felt their 752s were better maintained than most Americans and some United.

-A.



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User currently offlineTimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5331 times:

well, DO they have any plans for fleet renewal of any sort?? would be cool to see them get some newer aircraft, thought i have no idea if they could afford it?

User currently offlineTimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5328 times:

scrub that, just remembered the 787s. d'oh!

User currently offlineDkny From Ethiopia, joined Mar 2004, 714 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5117 times:

Great to see new destinations for ET. Still no news on the much talked about ADD-ACC-NYC flight.
Surprised to see Dakar going daily at once.
Looks like all flights leaving ADD will end by midnight everyday.


User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4968 times:

Quoting Dkny (Reply 19):
Great to see new destinations for ET. Still no news on the much talked about ADD-ACC-NYC flight.
Surprised to see Dakar going daily at once.
Looks like all flights leaving ADD will end by midnight everyday.

Yeah, ADD-ACC-NYC still not set for the near future. Thinking of that one, it would be of more benefit to West African pax, as opposed to those from the east since one can get to NYC much quickly by transiting at a European city. Or in the future, when/if ET goes nonstop to IAD.

Dakar also suprised me, since this is the biggest launch to any city for ET in terms of frequency. It is a milk-run route however, with 2 stops along the way (NDJ/BKO or LFW/ABJ), but what it does is link all of those francophone countries, and makes use of aircraft instead of having them sit around all night at BKO or ABJ. Come to think of it, these days, ABJ is risky. Would have loved to see nonstop BKO however, and a roundtrip daytime to NDJ. LFW could also be done roundtrip daytime, while ABJ is a bit of a stretch (ACC is currently the farthest city with a roundtrip daytime service: ie leave ADD in the morning after Asia/Europe arrivals, return to ADD in time for Asia/Europe departures).

Speaking of daytime roundtrips, ET has come a long way and well implemented this on most of its African routes. What this means is that aircraft would not go and hang around all night, an can be used on multiple flights. Remember the old days, where a 737 would get to DAR in mid afternoon, and not depart until 6AM the next day? What these roundtrips also do is allow for the same crew to leave and return to ADD on the same day. I was looking at the departure/arrival hours, and it does conform to the max 12 hr duty, 8 hour flying times set by the FAA under normal ops. Whether or not ET does it I do not know - DNKY/ET787, any way to find out whether the same set of crew operate outbound/inbound flights? There are also a few neat night time roundtrips, such as BEY, CAI, JED.

En plus, the late night bank will be more streamlined, as currently asian flights leave much later than the initial arrivals into ADD, as they have to wait for arriving flights from West Africa. With the new schedule, the latest in the bank leaves at 12:10 to JED, while the earliest arrivals are around 8:20PM. Gotta love that double daily to Dubai, with just 20 minutes in between. It's cool I guess, as if demand is low on a particular day, they could merge the two into one flight (they kinda do that now, by extending the second DXB flight to BOM on certain days).

It was nice seeing that ET signed up with Sabre for its passenger management system, which includes online booking, e-ticketing (time ticking on this one) and code-sharing (hmmm anything coming?). That announcement said that it was making such procurement ahead of a 5-year growth spurt, which has me wondering what else is in store! While I do not expect anything like the 20-something city list that Turkish Airlines announced in one shot, this would definitely have me drooling over schedules.


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4910 times:

Quoting ETStar (Reply 20):
It is a milk-run route however, with 2 stops along the way (NDJ/BKO or LFW/ABJ),

Hola
ABJ is served via ACC, are the ADD-LFW-ABJ-DKR seperate flights or will they reduce ACC-abj



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User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4881 times:

Quoting Soups (Reply 21):
ABJ is served via ACC, are the ADD-LFW-ABJ-DKR seperate flights or will they reduce ACC-abj

The current ADD-ACC-ABJ flight will become just an ADD-ACC-ADD, translating to capacity increase to that city.


User currently offlineDkny From Ethiopia, joined Mar 2004, 714 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4824 times:

I heard again that ET will be receiving 2 777 very soon. Can't confirm though.

User currently offlineETAIZ From Italy, joined Jan 2006, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4699 times:

Quote:
I heard again that ET will be receiving 2 777 very soon. Can't confirm though.




DKNY, Are there any updates on the 777?


25 Orion737 : If you think ETs 757s are old, old, old, what does that make Monarch's 757s? The Methusela of the skies?
26 Flying Belgian : Indeed !!!! FB.
27 AF022 : I have no idea what is going on with cameroon airlines, but years ago they used to load lots and lots and lots of traffic from DKR that was only goin
28 Horus : Excellent news. The ADD-CAI timetable is fine, but on the return (CAI-ADD) on Wed, Thur and Sun there are 2 flights leaving to ADD within 12 hours. I
29 ETStar : Yes. Definitely exciting to see the increase in freq to CAI. While the nonstops connect to/from the African flights, the one-stop connects CAI with K
30 Ethiopian787 : Hi Dkny & ETStar I have heard that ET is actively looking to lease a Boeing 777-200ER or a Boeing 767-300ER neither of which are available in the leas
31 ETAIZ : Ethiopian787, is there any news about the acquisition or reconfiguration of the B757s to freighters since the demand has increased and also due to th
32 Dkny : Selam Ethiopian787. Thank you for the update on the aicraft and route matters. So ADD-ACC-IAD or ADD-DKR-IAD will be in addition to the exsiting ADD-F
33 Ethiopian787 : Hi!! ET-AIZ I think ET still wants to convert one or two of its pax 757s. The problem is, first everybody is experienecing aircraft shortage (please n
34 AF022 : I had heard that ET was one of many foreign flags that couldn't make an intermediate domestic stop work with the new hysterical post-9/11 regulations
35 Ethiopian787 : AF022 I think this is also true.
36 Post contains images ETStar : I can attest to that. And it sucked big time! It was an early arrival at EWR, which made immigration/customs somewhat bearable, but what happened was
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