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DL New Service To 13 New Destinations  
User currently offlineOmoo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9869 times:

I thought i should share this new DL service expansion......

All Service originating in ATL:

McAllen, Texas February 16 ASA

Merida, Mexico February 25 Delta

San Pedro, Honduras* March 1 Delta

Roatan, Honduras* March 4 Delta

Dusseldorf, Germany April 3 Delta

Acapulco, Mexico* April 5 Delta

Zihuatanejo/Ixtapa, Mexico* April 12 Delta

Lewisburg, West Virginia April 19 ASA

Copenhagen, Denmark* May 1 Delta

Nice, France May 9 Delta

Athens, Greece May 29 Delta

Edinburgh, Scotland June 5 Delta

Venice, Italy June 6 Delta

* Subject to government approval.

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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9656 times:

New?

Not to nitpick but I'm going to anyway.....
It is more like; "Delta begins new service, and resumes service to several destinations...."

ZIH, ACA, ATH, NCE, and CPH have all had Delta service in the past.
(Ex-Western and PanAm)



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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3006 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9620 times:

Quoting Omoo (Thread starter):
Athens, Greece May 29 Delta

I was under the impression that DL already served ATH. Guess I'm wrong.

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 9583 times:

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 2):
I was under the impression that DL already served ATH. Guess I'm wrong.

They do, from JFK.. all of the aforementioned flights will be from Atlanta. I think someone at Delta came up with a *brilliant* "Let's Make the World's Busiest Airport Even Busier, Especially in the Summer Thunderstorm Season" strategy.


User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3006 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9570 times:

Quoting Kohflot (Reply 3):
They do, from JFK.. all of the aforementioned flights will be from Atlanta. I think someone at Delta came up with a *brilliant* "Let's Make the World's Busiest Airport Even Busier, Especially in the Summer Thunderstorm Season" strategy.

Haha! Thanks for the explanation. Surprisingly, after hearing negative reviews, I transfered at ATL and found it quite nice. You just have to have enough time for your connection.

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9503 times:

Quoting Kohflot (Reply 3):
"Let's Make the World's Busiest Airport Even Busier, Especially in the Summer Thunderstorm Season" strategy.

Most of the international routes will leave at night when the storms usually doe down after the heat of te day is gone. It shouldn't be as bad at that time but I do see your point.



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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9487 times:

You forgot to mention TLV.
It is also pending government approval.. Anything new with that ?


User currently offlineOmoo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9487 times:

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 4):
Haha! Thanks for the explanation. Surprisingly, after hearing negative reviews, I transfered at ATL and found it quite nice.

dont forget the ATL restaurant rats !


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9458 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 6):
You forgot to mention TLV.
It is also pending government approval.. Anything new with that ?

TLV was announced a while ago so that's why it didn't show in today's PR release. For something that still isn't approved they sure are pimping it pretty hard in the ads.



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2629 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9445 times:

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 2):
Iwas under the impression that DL already served ATH. Guess I'm wrong.

Aeroflot777



Quoting Stirling (Reply 1):
ZIH, ACA, ATH, NCE, and CPH have all had Delta service in the past.
(Ex-Western and PanAm)

ATL-ATH is not new. It has been a JFK route for a long time, but years ago, they used to run it with an MD-11 supplemental to the JFK flight!



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User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1464 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9303 times:

Quoting B4real (Reply 9):
ATL-ATH is not new. It has been a JFK route for a long time, but years ago, they used to run it with an MD-11 supplemental to the JFK flight!

Are they gonna be able to do that on a 763? I know the flight from MXP to ATL I was on last April was a little over 11 hours flight time because of the winds. Add on another hour to ATH, does the 763 have the balls for that flight?

Its listed at 9140 km, DLs 763 is listed with a range of 10563 km. I think it will have to make a fuel stop somewhere in western europe on the way back.

Any thoughts?


User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1335 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9303 times:

Anyone know what DL has planned to ANC this summer..... FAI??????


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User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9213 times:

I think ANC will have nonstop service to ATL and probably SLC. I don't know about FAI.

Delta has been selling seats to TLV for quite some time now. I'm booked on those flights in June. Why would they be selling them before they had government approval? Even KBP wasn't available until recently, even though it had been announced for months (the route was pending government approval until recently).


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9079 times:

Doesnt FAI get a 752 to SLC seasonally?


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9039 times:

Quoting OOer (Reply 10):
Are they gonna be able to do that on a 763? I know the flight from MXP to ATL I was on last April was a little over 11 hours flight time because of the winds. Add on another hour to ATH, does the 763 have the balls for that flight?

Its listed at 9140 km, DLs 763 is listed with a range of 10563 km. I think it will have to make a fuel stop somewhere in western europe on the way back.

According to the Great Circle Mapper, ATL-ATH is actually 4953 nm of distance, so it would be well within reach of any 767-300ER, which have a range of 6105 nm, according to Boeing. The only plane that has the range you mention is the 767-400ER, which has actually some 109 km less range than the aircraft you mentioned earlier.


User currently offlineDreamflight767 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9016 times:
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What a/c are going to be used on those routes? Specifically Edinburgh. Are we going to see some DL 757 going across the pond or will it be the 762? It's nice to see Edinburgh getting some attention from the U.S. carriers.

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9007 times:

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 15):
Are we going to see some DL 757 going across the pond or will it be the 762?

If 757s were to go across the pond, there's the question whether they have a full ETOPS rating. However, it's safe to say there will be no 762s crossing the pond, as they're all due to be fully phased out of the fleet, with "Spirit of Delta" being put to display in a museum. So the only safe bet on the equipment is their flagship, the 767-300ER, though I can imagine TLV getting a 777-200ER instead.


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9007 times:

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 15):
What a/c are going to be used on those routes? Specifically Edinburgh. Are we going to see some DL 757 going across the pond or will it be the 762? It's nice to see Edinburgh getting some attention from the U.S. carriers.

No and no. There 752 arent certified for ETOPS and cannot make ATL-EDI. The 762 are non /ER version(thus cannot make it) and are old and being retired.



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4742 posts, RR: 45
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8960 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 17):
The 762 are non /ER version(thus cannot make it) and are old and being retired.

DL's 762's have flown across the pond before, there are pictures of the birds at Frankfurt...

do a search.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8943 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 18):
DL's 762's have flown across the pond before, there are pictures of the birds at Frankfurt...

do a search.

I'm not MD90fan, but I found the only four shots of DL 762s in FRA. Here is the most recent one.

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © E.Groenendijk


Continuing with the DL 757 issue, is there even a European destination they can reach nonstop ex ATL, even if going nonstop only on the eastbound? Since ATL-EDI has been ruled out, I believe the 757s, if they'd be certified for ETOPS in the future, would only be good for Europe service out of JFK.


User currently offlineSampa737 From Brazil, joined May 2005, 637 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8823 times:

So, does anyone have a complete list of international destinations Delta serves out of Atlanta?

User currently offlineIluv747400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8696 times:

Looks like a total of 72 international destinations, all but 4 of which are served by Delta.

CANADA (4)

Montreal – YUL
Ottawa – YOW
Toronto – YYZ (plus Air Canada)
Vancouver – YVR

MEXICO (10)

Los Cabos – SJD
Puerto Vallarta – PVR
Guadalajara – GDL
Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo – ZIH*
Acapulco – ACA*
Mexico City – MEX (plus Aeromexico)
Monterrey – MTY
Mérida – MID*
Cancún – CUN
Cozumel – CZM

CENTRAL AMERICA (9)

Belize City – BZE
Guatemala City – GUA
San Salvador – SAL
San Pedro Sula – SAP*
Roatan – RTB*
Managua – MGA
Liberia – LIR
San José – SJO
Panama City – PTY

CARIBBEAN (14)

Bermuda – BDA
Nassau – NAS
Freeport – FPO (plus Air Tran)
Providenciales – PLS
Montego Bay – MBJ
Kingston – KIN (by Air Jamaica only)
Grand Cayman – GCM
Santo Domingo – SDQ
Punta Cana – PUJ
St. Maarten – SXM
Antigua – ANU
St. Lucia – UVF
Barbardos – BGI
Aruba – AUA

SOUTH AMERICA (7)

Caracas – CCS
Bogota – BOG
Lima – LIM
Santiago – SCL
Buenos Aires – EZE
Sao Paulo – GRU
Rio de Janeiro – GIG

AFRICA (2)

Sal – SID (by South African only)
Johannesburg – JNB (by South African only)

EUROPE (22)

Dublin – DUB
Shannon – SNN
Edinburgh – EDI*
Manchester – MAN
London – LGW (plus British Airways)
Madrid – MAD
Barcelona – BCN
Paris – CDG (plus Air France)
Nice – NCE*
Brussels – BRU
Ámsterdam – AMS (plus KLM)
Copenhagen – CPH*
Dusseldorf – DUS*
Frankfurt – FRA (plus Lufthansa)
Stuttgart – STR
Munich – MUC
Zurich – ZRH
Milan – MXP
Rome – FCO
Venice – VCE*
Athens – ATH*
Moscow – SVO

ASIA (4)

Tel Aviv – TLV*
Mumbai – BOM* (change of aircraft in CDG on outbound but not return)
Tokyo – NRT
Seoul – ICN (by Korean Air only)

* New destination from ATL in 2006.

[Edited 2006-02-04 14:42:42]

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8640 times:

Quoting Omoo (Thread starter):

Lewisburg, West Virginia April 19 ASA

Not new service. Has been seasonal service for a few years now.

Quoting Kohflot (Reply 3):
I think someone at Delta came up with a *brilliant* "Let's Make the World's Busiest Airport Even Busier, Especially in the Summer Thunderstorm Season" strategy.

The fifth runway is scheduled to be open in June.

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 17):
There 752 arent certified for ETOPS and cannot make ATL-EDI.

I thought that the four ex-TZ 752s were.


User currently offlineRyanlock From United States of America, joined May 2005, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8081 times:

I started this discussion a few months ago which may be of relevance to this discussion:

DL's New Int'l Route Schedule
Ryanlock 2005-10-19 19:48:40

Ryan



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2629 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7689 times:

Quoting OOer (Reply 10):
Are they gonna be able to do that on a 763? I know the flight from MXP to ATL I was on last April was a little over 11 hours flight time because of the winds. Add on another hour to ATH, does the 763 have the balls for that flight?

Its listed at 9140 km, DLs 763 is listed with a range of 10563 km. I think it will have to make a fuel stop somewhere in western europe on the way back.

Any thoughts?

It would have to be 763, they don't have the 777 to do it on that a/c, as LTU932 says also the 764 could do it. Schedules at delta.com have it as a 763.



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25 OOer : DL has JFK-ATH listed at 4933nm, and ATL-ATH listed at 5693nm. So what I am saying is that someone has the distance messed up. I checked 2 sources an
26 Sampa737 : Thanks, Iluv747400 for the info and for including the full names of the cities. Some of in here are novices and I, for one, don't always know the code
27 Amy : Any idea on the equipment for the new EDI route? B763ER?
28 B4real : DL 96 and DL 97 ATL-EDI-ATL are 767-300ER a/c.
29 ScottishLaddie : I thought it was starting May 4th?
30 A3B6NY : You forgot to mention DELTA (ASA) ATL TO BQN Aguadilla and PSE Ponce Puerto Rico June 1,2006 (JET CRJ 700).
31 777gk : ATL-EDI? With a 763? I don't know, that seems to be pushing it a bit. Only time will tell if we can classify this aggressive expansion as 'overexpansi
32 Post contains links LTU932 : When did DL get 752s from TZ? Or are you mixing DL up with CO, because DL only operates 752s with Pratt engines, while TZ and CO fly them with Roller
33 Deltadude : {quote=Alitalia744,reply=18]DL's 762's have flown across the pond before, there are pictures of the birds at Frankfurt... do a search.[/quote] accordi
34 OOer : No it would not! If the range of the 763 is 6100nm and the trip is 5693nm...all you need is a wind component of -10 and you are not ok. All flights m
35 Kohflot : The fifth runway will help on low vis days and with the lovely haze GDP that ATL is prone too.. it's not going to help much when there's a storm squa
36 Post contains links and images Srbmod : N750AT: View Large View MediumPhoto © Mark Abbott N751AT: View Large View MediumPhoto © Daniel Piotrowski N752AT: View Large View MediumPho
37 TheFlyGuy2 : Yeah for Delta! It is great to see the widget spreading its wings again. I am just glad that they are serving ORD from LGA! Delta used to have a nice
38 DENplanenut : My first flight on a 757 was on N757AT EWR-ATL route, Jan 3, 1997. How appropiate. Does anyone know what type of equipment will be used for SAP and B
39 DENplanenut : I meant RTB.
40 DAL767400ER : Delta will use 738s on these flights, their standard LatAm equipment. Regardless of the fact that Delta currently has a good 100+ flights less from A
41 CO7e7 : You're on the money!! the T7 will fly the ATL TLV route.
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