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Last U.S. Airlines To Fly The DC-8?  
User currently offlineFlyHigh77 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 18 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9326 times:

Which airlines were the last to retire the DC-8 from revenue service? When was that?

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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9326 times:

My guess would be United around 1985-86


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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9304 times:

[quote=EMBQA,reply=1]My guess would be United around 1985-86[/quote

I'm sure it's later. The super 71-73 were finished in '83, so you would think that they would be around a lot longer.

Also, is the question about Scheduled or Charter


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9296 times:
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I think it was UA that was the last to retire this aircraft. The stretch DC8 was one long aircraft.


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9271 times:

MGM Grand's airline flew them along with 721/722s I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champion_Air



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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1354 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9253 times:

I believe it was Hawaiian Airlines. I was a crew member aboard Hawaiian's last flight utilizing a DC-8 aircraft. It was a MAC charter flight from Diego Garcia (a tiny island in the Chagos archipelago in the Central Indian Ocean) to Los Angeles with stops in Singapore, Guam, and Honolulu. This was in April of 1993.
It was a sad day in my career, and I remember it well. I loved that airplane!

Aloha,
HALFA



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User currently offlineGeg2rap From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 851 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9253 times:

UPS and Abex still have the 8 flying high, and at least UPS will for some time to come. Our mechanics said Douglas built planes that could have "an unlimited" frame life
Jeremy


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9226 times:

I flew a UA stretch 8 from FLL to ORD in March of 91...and ORD to MCO in April of 90........will that help

But I would bet on Hawiian being the last one.
safe



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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9200 times:

I have been to the ramp several times with DHL and those DC-8s are huge. I was surprised how big it is the first time I was there.

Awesome sight. While loading the 727, I sit behind the DC-8s and starting the 4 engines, I get quite a truck load of fumes.

M


User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9193 times:

I'm pretty sure you're right, safe...it was '91 when the DC-8's left the UA fleet...a fine aircraft that will be sadly missed, along with the DC-10. But, the economics weren't there anymore, I'm afraid.

Many happy memories flying PDX-ORD, PDX-DEN, PDX-SFO on DC-8's. My first flight ever was late July 1973 when I was a mere three weeks old...a UA DC-8-62 from SFO-ORD. I've been hooked on flying ever since!  biggrin 


User currently offlineJcavinato From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9095 times:

Spring 1991 I rode a DC-8 from IAD-LAX. I was the only passenger in first class. There weren't more than 20 or so on the entire flight.

BTW: there is a DC-8 parked on the campus of the University of Southern California. My son took me this morning and we walked by it. Anyone know any history of it?


User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9082 times:

Rich International, I believe, was the last airline to fly the DC-8 in regular scheduled pax service. They folded back in 97' or 98'.

ATI uses DC-8-62C's for charter pax service from time to time.



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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1880 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8961 times:

I'm also agree with MX757. It must bei Rich International.

User currently offlineB52murph From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8915 times:

Quoting MX757 (Reply 11):
ATI uses DC-8-62C's for charter pax service from time to time.

Quite correct....recent scan of AMC charters shows them used in the south pacific in a PAX/cargo config. No idea what the service is like...

Murph


User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4278 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8879 times:

Quoting HALFA (Reply 5):
I believe it was Hawaiian Airlines.

I believe you are correct. I remember flying a DC-8 on the 15 minute hop between HNL-LIH as well as on the return back in the summer of either 1993 or 1994. That thing was packed full.

Texan



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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3800 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8856 times:
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Didn't Delta also have DC-8's? They flew those for a long time, I don't know when the last one at Delta was retired, but I do remember they were still flying them out of ATL in the late 80's.

Ben Soriano
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User currently offlineSampa737 From Brazil, joined May 2005, 637 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8824 times:

Delta flew them into Memphis I believe as late as the early 80's. I remember flying one to Atlanta...I wanna say in 1980.

User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3774 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8764 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 15):
Didn't Delta also have DC-8's? They flew those for a long time, I don't know when the last one at Delta was retired, but I do remember they were still flying them out of ATL in the late 80's.

They retired the last of their DC-8s in 1988. I think a lot of their newer ones went to UPS.

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User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 8703 times:

Back in the 60's and 70's EA, DL & NW were the predominant carriers from ORD to Florida. Before the widebodies arrived DL used to advertise their "super jets" to Florida and at the bottom of the advert you'd see a DC8-63. For awhile there is was a very competitive market!
In 74' I flew on a stretch DC-8 to ATL from ORD for a job interview with DL.

NW flew 707's & 720's.
EA flew 727's and DC-9 Whisperjets.

I too miss those DC-8's. When you were spooling up for takeoff, you just knew that you were really going somewhere! Also, the last plane I was on to actually have curtains in the windows!


User currently offlineB52murph From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8680 times:

There used to be pics (I thought on this website) of the last scheduled UA DC-8 flight....LAX to either KOA or OGG, not sure which, in 1991 or early `92. If I remember it right, the flight was delayed by some four hours for a mechanical problem.

Here's a big question...when did EA retire their DC-8s? I know they had them for most of the `60s and at least part of the `70s, but am pretty sure they went out well before DL and UA retired the type. Anyone know last flight info?

Murph


User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8631 times:

Gulf Air Transport (later TransOcean Airways) flew DC-8s until they folded in 1990.

AAndrew


User currently offlinePGV From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8592 times:

My dad flew every version of the DC-8 for Capitol, United, and UPS racking up around 11,000 hours in them. Used to love to hear the stories of #2 / #3 reversers deployed for descent and no "big eraser" (speed brakes). Even after 12 years on every 747 model, he always considered the DC-8-71 to be the Ferrari in the sky, and the -61 was the underpowered "Lead Sled".


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8546 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 15):
Didn't Delta also have DC-8's?

I hope so since I have a model Delta DC8 from the 70s.

Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 8):
those DC-8s are huge.

yep, longer than the 753. The 753 was the longest twin jet single aisle ever built, but the DC8 was the longest single aisle period.



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User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2000 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8512 times:

Delta and United introduced the DC-8 in September, 1959. The DL flight between IDL and ATL actually took off first, so DL got to be the first airline to fly the Eight. Other US airlines that fly the regular length fuselage DC-8 were NW, NA, EA, PA, Panagra, and BN, as well as post deregulation carriers like QF. BN, UA, HA and some other late entrants operated the DC-8-62. The 61-63/71-73 were operated by UA, DL, EA, and NA. The eight was also flown by Supplementals such as Trans International, Oversea National, World, and Flying Tigers in charter service. United was the last major carrier to operate the Stretch 8, a -71, in 1991. Delta sold theirs to UPS a few years before. As we all know, UPS and other cargo carriers still fly the stretch Eight although I have read that UPS is in the process of retiring theirs. The last DC-8 was built in 1972, some 34 years ago. Not a bad record for an aircraft finished 2nd to the 707 in sales and never made money for Douglas.

User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2502 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8492 times:

Quoting B52murph (Reply 13):
Quite correct....recent scan of AMC charters shows them used in the south pacific in a PAX/cargo config. No idea what the service is like...

I've seen the ATI MAC charter DC-8s here at HNL. It appears that the passenger "cabin" is located at the rear of the aircraft. No idea how many pax it could hold but, based on the number of windows (8 or 9), I'd say about 40-45 tops.

I, too, can recall the good ol days (mid 80s) of riding a UA DC-8 from ORD-LAX via LAS.



DC-8 61/63/71 DC-9-30/50 MD-80/82/83 DC-10-10/30 MD-11 717 721/2 732/3/4/5/G/8/9 741/2/4 752 762/3 777 A306/319/20/33 AT
25 Post contains links and images OB1504 : When you say revenue service, do you mean passenger or cargo? AFAIK, as mentioned before, ABX Air (Airborne Express and DHL) and UPS have a few DC-8s,
26 Planespotting : UPS has quite a few DC-8's actually...not sure of exact numbers but im sure it would be easy to find.
27 MIAMIx707 : Like someone said before, in the US it was Rich International. They stopped flying the DC-8 somewhere around the mid-90s. Im curiuos about the last pa
28 Post contains links PGV : "Diesel-8" fans can stop here for some cool info on operations, series, and other stuff: http://www.dc8.org/
29 AirEMS : Did the military use DC-8's for troop transports? I want to say not too long ago I saw a USAF DC-8 Photo but as always I could be wrong? Fly & Work Sa
30 Post contains images Checkraiser : Let's not forget BAX Global:
31 Flywithjohn : UPS is still operating DC-8 I see them at the other end of hangar when ever I'm in MSP
32 ImperialEagle : The majority of EA's original fleet of (short-fuselage) DC-8's were gone by the end of 1973. The "Super 63's" went between 1972-1974. Surprisingly, so
33 777fan : What?! Can anyone verify this practice?! Last time I heard of this taking place, a Russian bird plummeted out of the sky killing a couple hundred...
34 Post contains images Levg79 : You're referring to the flight where captain let his 11-year-old son sit in the pilot's seat and he accidentally pushed the yoke forward disengaging
35 N6801 : I saw the MGM Grand DC-8-62 at YYZ (Terminal 1) the summer of 1994.
36 Post contains images MX757 : I don't think you have to worry about that. The reason you don't see more 707's flying around is because Boeing made the mistake of making them time
37 Post contains images Jwb20 : How many airlines even had the Dc-8. I know that Delta and United had them but are there any others. I dont think that American Br Continental had any
38 Post contains links OMA2FAI2SAV : Acording to UPS at http://www.pressroom.ups.com/mediakits/factsheet/0,2305,858,00.html they currently operate 21 DC8-71's Also, check Airguideonline
39 Jayhup : I flew a UA DC-8 ORD-SAN on 17 March 1990 and then SAN-ORD on the 25th of March 1990. The last leg of that trip was ORD-LGA on a 757 and it was a pret
40 American 767 : American never bought any brand new from the manufacturer, but for a short time, one year or so if not less, American had in its fleet a few DC-8's c
41 Dtw9 : Quoting Planespotting (Reply 26): UPS has quite a few DC-8's actually...not sure of exact numbers but im sure it would be easy to find. UPS has a tota
42 Post contains links and images Luxair : Checkraiser, waohhh I'm very impressed by those pictures of this BAX 8, just look how clean (almost new) that cockpit and Aircraft looks. for BAX Air
43 Dtw9 : Here's all of the airlines that took "NEW" delivery of DC-8's from Douglas, Air Canada, JAL, Saturn, Aeromexico, Iberia, Seaboard, Atlantis, KLM, SAS,
44 YOW : I'm pretty sure UA was the last original DC-8 operator to retire the type from passenger service. I know for a fact AC was the last original DC-8 ope
45 Luxair : Off-topic, I heard that Lufthansa used the DC8 as a Cargo plane, is that true? When? Thanks
46 Timz : There was a pic in Flight International-- offhand guess the 1960s. Don't recall who they were leasing it from. It was in LH paint, tho.
47 B52murph : If I recall correctly, DL had 259 seats in their -71s, largest in their fleet at the time, except for the L1011-1s, which sat 302. May be pretty clos
48 Post contains links Wjcandee : There are quite a few photos of the passenger compartment of ATI's combi DC8s at: http://www.airtransport.cc/BlueTails/BT_FrameSet.htm If you go back
49 Post contains links and images B52murph : Thanks. Looks like a very pleasent service, complete with the AMC seat covers also seen on TZ (and perhaps other charters). I'd somehow imagined some
50 ImperialEagle : B52murph----- I guess the business decision at the time revolved around standardization of the fleet. Nevermind the fact that nearly everyone else in
51 BOAC911 : I flew on a United Airlines DC-8 from Cleveland to Chicago O'Hare in May 1989. United and Delta were the last US operators that flew them on scheduled
52 Milesrich : That picture of the Rear Fuselage Section of the Eastern DC-21 with original Golden Falcon Palomar Seats is really something. My first flight on a DC-
53 ClipperNo1 : Plenty of DC8s still in service in the US: Murray Air 121 - DC8-62 and DC8-71. ATI - big fleet of DC8-62 combis (mainly on AMC contracts) & DC8-71/73.
54 RiddlePilot215 : I thought that the 70's series with their CFM engine conversions were quite comparable in terms of economics to an airliner of comperable size?
55 PGV : He says "inboard" thrust reversers. The outboards (#1 / #4) do not deploy in flight. The wing on the DC-8 is extremely efficient. Some of the Super 7
56 Post contains images Wjcandee : Funny, the Power Plant section of my B767 Flight Handbook seems to describe how they are to be operated...
57 PGV : I bet it does! I apologize...I was too vague for a.net when it comes to facts. Anybody else would have scalded my ass good! There was a disabling and
58 727forever : I don't know exactly when the DC-8 came out of passenger service in the U.S., but I can give you a few facts that I know for sure. MGM was operating a
59 Post contains links and images RAFVC10 : Yes you are right. Marshall Islands are a little territory of USA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Islands
60 YOW : I think LH operated the DC-8 freighters in the 1990s...they may not have even operated them directly, i.e. on wet-lease.
61 L-188 : Way later, I rode a Hawaiian airlines 60 series back in August of 1991. It was a month before I went into the service, so I am pretty sure of the dat
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