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What's Going To Happen To The US/HP 737s?  
User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 630 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4373 times:
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Does anyone know what the plan is for all the 737s in US and HP service? I've noticed that most of the US 737s are in desperate need of a paint job, yet none of them (at least none that I know of) have received the new colors, even those that have gone in for maintenance. Are these models scheduled for retirement in the near future?

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User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4355 times:

Some are going back, but the last US jets going back are just about gone with a couple more HP birds out the door as well. The combined fleet will stabilize for the near term at around 125 733s and 734s. Any retirement beyond that will require more mainline jets coming on board, either Airbuses or the hotly-rumored Embraer 190s. I wouldn't expect to see those for at least another four or five years.

Bottom line? Expect US 737 Classics to hang around well into the next decade.

The US birds are not getting the new paint, because the goal of the paint program is to get the corporate image unified. So, the America West aircraft are getting the bulk of the paint. There's close to a dozen HP birds either painted or in the paint shop now - all Airbuses.



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User currently offlineHawk44 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 759 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4338 times:

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 1):
The US birds are not getting the new paint

If I remember correctly a few of the US 737's will get the new paint by the end of 2006.

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 1):
because the goal of the paint program is to get the corporate image unified

Which is why it would be a good idea to get them in the new colors

Hawk44



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4320 times:

Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 2):

Which is why it would be a good idea to get them in the new colors

Hawk44

True, but it is even more crucial that the HP birds get the new US scheme, as they have nothing linking them to US whatsoever. The US 737, though an old scheme are still for the least in a US scheme.



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User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1899 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4236 times:

At the moment:

America West Airlines
31 B737-300

US Airways
46 B737-300
42 B737-400


User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4153 times:
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I guess I can understand the need for a unified corporate image, but man, some of those US 737s look horrid. Some of the ones I've seen going in and out of DCA look like they've flown through a big tub of paint thinner; there are huge chunks of paint missing from bodies. Yet, at roughly $50K a pop for a new paint job, I can also understand why a cash strapped company like US is a little slow to get them all repainted.

User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6791 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4152 times:

ARe they going to redo the interiors of the US birds? I mean, that is need nearly as bad as a unified fleet..


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User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4152 times:

Quoting AviationAddict (Reply 5):

Well they aren't cash strapped anymore, but yes it is very expensive to paint an aircraft. It will be done, but the HP planes will be done first for obvious reasons.


User currently offlineERAUMcDlover From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4133 times:

I thought HP was all Airbus except for the 75s....where do their 733s come from??? I mean I know they had them, but I thought they went all Airbus last year, or was that F9 that finally simplified, unfortunately to the a32x? I agree, they might need paint, but if its in a US scheme, leave it, get the HP birds done, and then come back and get the paint and interior on the original US aircraft.


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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4130 times:
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Quoting ERAUMcDlover (Reply 8):
I mean I know they had them, but I thought they went all Airbus last year, or was that F9 that finally simplified, unfortunately to the a32x?

F9 went all Airbus last year, HP still have a lot of B733s, as another poster mentioned.  Smile



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4059 times:

Quoting AviationAddict (Thread starter):
I've noticed that most of the US 737s are in desperate need of a paint job,



Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 2):

Which is why it would be a good idea to get them in the new colors

I like the US 737's in their old colours....I guess it would take a while to adjust to their new colours....but I'm glad they will be in the fleet for many years as I prefer US's 737's over HP's A319/A320.......


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Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 9):

F9 went all Airbus last year, HP still have a lot of B733s, as another poster mentioned

Boeing was stupid to not take F9 seriously when they needed new planes....doubt we'll be seeing F9 flying Boeing planes anytime soon, if ever..


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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3905 times:

Will the HP planes get the US airways interiors/seats or visa-versa? Also, are the US F/C seats the same as the HP airbus ones?

User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4151 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3885 times:

Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 2):
If I remember correctly a few of the US 737's will get the new paint by the end of 2006.

The word was that ALL aircraft would be repainted by the end of 2006. But maybe that was just all the HP planes. But the term "all" was definitely there  Smile

Quoting ERAUMcDlover (Reply 8):
I mean I know they had them, but I thought they went all Airbus last year,

I think from now on they are only taking delivery of Airbus. They still have MANY 733s though, they have been a 737 based fleet from the beginning and only finally retired the last 732 last year.


User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3824 times:

The last Boeing aircraft delivered to America West came in 1999 - used 733s. Everything since then has been Airbus.


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3792 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 12):
The word was that ALL aircraft would be repainted by the end of 2006

All HP aircraft.

N


User currently offlineMonorail From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 628 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3762 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 14):
All HP aircraft.

So the special c/s HP 757s going to be repainted as well?



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3762 times:

All signs point to yes on that.

N


User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2266 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

Quoting Viasa (Reply 4):
At the moment:

America West Airlines
31 B737-300

US Airways
46 B737-300
42 B737-400

Not that it's a big issue, the AWA 733s are glass cockpit, USA 733 and 734s are not. AWA used to fly a mixed fleet of 732, 733 non-glass, and 733 glass.



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User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3649 times:

Quoting Monorail (Reply 15):
So the special c/s HP 757s going to be repainted as well?

The latest rumor I've heard is that the state flags will stay, perhaps even a Pennsylvania and North Carolina paint scheme added, but the teamwork plane, AZ Cardinals, probably the Ohio (since CMH is no longer a hub) and the AZ Diamondback schemes are going away. But no firm decision as to what will happen with the HP 757s has been made yet.


User currently offlinePSA727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Adding to COERJ145's reply (#11), does anyone know of the final seat
configuration of HPs and USs common aircraft? Has anyone in Phoenix made
a decision on this? I'm hoping for the US standard because they appear to
have more F seats as well as more seat pitch in Y (although very minor) to
HPs. For example USs A320 is 16F/126Y and HPs A320 is 12F/138Y; and
USs A319 is 12F/108Y and HPs A319 is 12F/112Y. So it appears that US
replaces the 2 rows of Y seats that HP has in the A320s with 1 row of F seats.
And the seat pitch of 1 row of F seats does not equal the seat pitch of 2 rows
of Y seats. With that in mind, it would appear that the rows of Y seats in
USs A320s have about 1 inch more of pitch than HPs A320s. I know it sounds
a bit trivial, but every inch of seat pitch in Y class counts. Plus, it is always
nicer to have more F class seats to upgrade to when available.



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User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3620 times:

I would not expect more F seats in any aircraft except for the US Airways 757s. They'll probably be brought back up to 14 to match the HP birds.


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