JumboClassic From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 315 posts, RR: 0 Posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1416 times:
I have noticed recently that the daily VS 742 flight to ORD has been changed to A343 (the aircraft that they originally started the service with last year). Does anyone know the reason for that? Not high enough loads to support a 747?
747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1350 times:
I was curious about that too. I asked at the ORD ticket counter when a friend of mine checked in for the flight. i was told that the aircraft was needed when Virgin started the LGW-LAS twice weekly service. In addition the other 5 days of the week is new SFO-LGW service. I was told all those flights were 747. But again who knows. However, when my friend came over on Virgin to ORD he said the flight was less than 50% full. Her said the same was true on the return from ORD-LHR. I find all this quite interesting as it is the peak summer travel season and all the planes are said to be full. So who knows what the real truth is.
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1300 times:
Virgin wants a second LHR-ORD flight so that it will improve its competitive
position against AA, UA, and BA, all of whom have multiple flights throughout
the day to Heathrow.
I wouldn't think VS will drop the route. It's valuable. The A340-300 is a newer
plane and perhaps they are tinkering with the equipment to accelerate the
aircraft refurbishment plan they apparently have fallen behind on.
Personally, I'd rather be in an A340 to ORD than a second hand 742.
PresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 668 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1272 times:
I've noticed that the times for Virgin's Chicago service are not that great. The flight leaves LHR at 10:30 am and get into ORD at 1:10 pm local time. The return flight leaves at 5:00pm, which must make it harder to attract business people who are more likely to want to maximize their work time. Although they are likely constrained by gate and slot availability at both airports, it seems that the flight would more successful if it left Chicago at around 7:30 pm (the same time as the earliest evening JFK-LHR runs) and left LHR at around 2:00 pm. That way, someone could work a full day in Chicago or work a half day in London. I would agree that Virign might be more attractive to business travelers if they had a second daily flight.
Just my thoughts on the apparently light load factors.
MEL From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1101 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (14 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1243 times:
LHR-ORD is a route that is flown with a variety of aircraft. Earlier on in the year I was in ORD for two days. One day they flew in G-VPUF, the second day they flew in G-VSKY. So the schedule changes all the time on the ORD route. This happens on the IAD route aswell. The 744 is flown in 3/4 of the time, the 742, the other 1/4 of the time. VS has also started LHR-DEL service. Sometimes that is a 742, sometimes a 744. So this may also mess up the LHR-ORD route aswell. Don't forget that planes are slowly being painted into the new c/s so some substitutions of different planes will take place on some routes. For instance, temporarily, it looks like a 742 has been deployed on one of the LHR-JFK routes. So the schedule on LHR-ORD is always subject to change.