AMS5280 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 27 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4574 times:
UA 1478 (with me in it) just landed in TPA, it took a while before the wheels hit the ground and the plane decelerated up to the end of the runway. Then it made a 180 turn on the runway, and taxied back to the nearest entrance to the taxiway. Is this standard procedure? I fly into TPA weekly and haven't landed this way before. It was 11.40pm and not very busy.
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4548 times:
Well on airports without parallel taxiways, it is done very often, either at the turning spot at the end of the runway, or depending on the size or weight of the airplane anywhere along the runway. This was the case in Grenada, my home. I am not sure about airports like TPA...
Cgagn From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4534 times:
Here in YXE, it's a regular occurance. Westjet 737s and Jazz CRJs regularly land on runway 09 or 27, and due to the only taxiway other than the ends of the runway being half way down, they regularly just miss it and have to 180 back rather than going all the way to the end.
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Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5108 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4531 times:
I love being on the airplane when then do that... Sometimes they just use the momentum they had to spin around, then rev the engines slightly to taxi, or they come almost to a stop, rev the engines, spin around, then reduce thrust for taxi. Either way, I love to hear the engines when they do the 180 turn.
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4281 times:
And also at SAN...when BA flew into our airport, both the 747-400 and the 777 were too wide to use the parallel taxiway, so an escort was given to the planes. They would leave their docking space, proceed to the active runway, taxi down ON the runway itself, make a 180 degree turn, and take-off. Landings involved the same procedure, only in reverse.
Watching a 777 make a complete pirouette at tiny SAN is an amazing site, second only to watching the fully fueled behemoth getting airborne off less than 10,000 feet of runway!!
BA will always be missed at SAN...
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Planemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1004 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4132 times:
A lot of small island airports have no parallel taxiway, so 180 turns are necessary. SXM is one, PPT, BOB, MOZ, HUH in French Polynesia required 180 turns on larger aircraft (the DHC-6 at Moorea (MOZ) did not need it as the aircraft used up only a fraction of the runway)
Nimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3171 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4015 times:
At BLR doing a 180 on the active is very common. I find this rather strange, since they do have taxiways directly at the end of the end of either side of the runway, but ATC often forces a/c to enter the active runway from the middle, taxi to teh end, do a 180 and then take off. I've never seen it done on landing though.
Positiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3962 times:
I believe it is called "back taxiing". I know in HVN they do it all the time if you are landing on runway 20. The taxiway at the end of 20 isnt able to handle CRJ's or the Dash-8's that go in there. When UA used to have 737-300 service to ORD, they used to do it as well.
NZCH From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3888 times:
That has happened to me twice at Glasgow Prestwick in 2002, 2003 on a Ryanair 737-200 we landed and once we had stopped about 3/4 down the runway we just turned around did a 180 and went back up the runway, but we didn't turn off at the first possible exit we carried on until we got to the terminal, very strange and the first time the weather was really bad raining really hard and it was night about 9pm, our flight was delayed by an hour at Stansted.
Tango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3786 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3853 times:
Quoting Planemannyc (Reply 10): A lot of small island airports have no parallel taxiway, so 180 turns are necessary.
KTN (Ketchikan, AK) airport, located on Annette Island, can be added to this list. The only entrance to the runway (uphill from the terminal!) is at the south end, meaning flights landing south to north do a 180 degree turn to taxi back to the terminal, same procedure in reverse for takeoffs north to south.
Wingflaps From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3813 times:
It's also done at LTN, the jets using the turning circle. I once flew Suckling Airways to AMS on a Dornier 228. The Captain clearly decided the turning circle was too far and spun the plan around in the middle of the main runway, hit the throttles and we were off.
Superhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3701 times:
It was done on one of my B6 flights into OAK last year. It was around midnight and they were fixing some of the parallel taxiways. So we landed on Runway 29, turned around so we headed around 110 degrees and taxiied back
Ffis34 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3667 times:
yeah so flying ted over the summer we had to come back a day early from SFO because of a hurricane and they were closing TPA that day so TED DEN-TPA about 3 hours delayed we did that exact thing we landed 12:10ish at night give or take 10 minutes, its pretty common, hanging out on top of the parking garage one evening i saw 4 flights in row land and do this procedure, all 1320's and 737's though.
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Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12029 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3581 times:
MLE in the Maldives doesn't have a taxiway at all! Just a runway and ramp next to the terminal, so every plane that lands there has to run to the end of the runway, do a 180 and taxi back to the ramp. The runway is located on a spit of reclaimed land, so from a distance it looks like the planes are taxying on water!
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Dartland From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 642 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3541 times:
I've "back-taxiied" at PHL to take-off on a US 733. I imagine we did it because the taxiways were filled with planes waiting to take-off, so when it was our turn, we used the runway for the last 500ft. of taxiing, then did a 180 and begain our take-off roll.
Bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5342 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3529 times:
Quoting AMS5280 (Thread starter): UA 1478 (with me in it) just landed in TPA, it took a while before the wheels hit the ground and the plane decelerated up to the end of the runway. Then it made a 180 turn on the runway, and taxied back to the nearest entrance to the taxiway. Is this standard procedure? I fly into TPA weekly and haven't landed this way before. It was 11.40pm and not very busy.
The reason why it happened at TPA is that you landed on 18R and the parallel taxiway is closed for construction at the end of that runway. If you cannot land fairly short, then you have to do a 180 and back taxi.
I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
: I like that!!! A piroutte before take off!!!! PNQ=Pune, India.
: That was well before my time at SAN. Man, I wish I was at SAN during that time... You still see "back taxis" on the active fairly often at SAN. Depen
: Add SJO to the list. It has a "turnaround area (if that's how it's called)" at the end of the RW 25 displaced threshold area. If RW 25 is active for d
: I remember back taxiing after landing at YHZ flying on BEX's Saab 340s.
: On my flight from Bucharest Otopeni to Istanbul by THY 737-800 last summer it happened. Before us an Olympic Airways' 717 entered the runway and take
: It had to be done at BUF for a while last year qhile taxiway work was being done...