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User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4121 times:

Hello
Flew on an internal flight today with aerogaviota in cuba on an AN26 and the whole cabin just had 6 windows!!!(Trip report coming soon). Noticed on a.net database all similar planes have the same configurations. Any other PAX have a small amount of windows¿


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User currently offlineAfterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4070 times:

Antonov An-72/74

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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4049 times:

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 1):
Antonov An-72/74

Ugh!!!  crazy 


User currently offlineSuperhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4031 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 2):
Antonov An-72/74

Well...at least they have cockpit windows! Big grin


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12501 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4000 times:
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Quoting Soups (Thread starter):
Flew on an internal flight today with aerogaviota in cuba on an AN26 and the whole cabin just had 6 windows!!!(Trip report coming soon).

BTDTGTTS!

Was this a flight to Cayo Largo by any chance?

My wife and I are off to Cuba at Easter. bouncy 

[Edited 2006-02-07 03:55:40]


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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3860 times:

Quoting Soups (Thread starter):
the whole cabin just had 6 windows!!!(

Check out the link in Reply 1
Under the title "capacity" in the link, it says that the AN 72/74 was primarily designed as a freighter. So I'm assuming that's the main reason it does not have more windows.
Anyway, I think it's a terrible looking aircraft,(I don't really like the location of the engines) and that's my opinion. I know some of your are going to flip out on me for saying that, but look at it!

Why are the engines located on top of the wings and so close to the aircraft??
Compare it to the BAe 146-100

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User currently offlineAfconcorde1 From France, joined Jan 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3849 times:

I could never fly on a plane like that. Seriously.

I need to have windows so I can see where I am going. If not, I definitely will get air sick.

 faint 



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5420 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3831 times:

Quoting Soups (Thread starter):
Any other PAX have a small amount of windows¿

Most military transports have few or no passenger windows.



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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3815 times:

Quoting Afconcorde1 (Reply 6):
I could never fly on a plane like that. Seriously.

I need to have windows so I can see where I am going. If not, I definitely will get air sick.

Same here!!


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3786 times:

Quoting Afconcorde1 (Reply 6):
I could never fly on a plane like that. Seriously.

I need to have windows so I can see where I am going. If not, I definitely will get air sick.

I would think the same thing, but imagine flying in the middle of a widebody at night. Pretty much the same experience.

Harry



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User currently offlineFokker70NG From Netherlands, joined Nov 2005, 234 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3570 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 5):
Why are the engines located on top of the wings and so close to the aircraft??

Quote from the airliners data section of this site:
"The most significant design feature of the An-72 and An-74 is the use of the Coanda effect to improve STOL performance, which utilises engine exhaust gases blown over the wing's upper surface to boost lift."



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User currently offlineGatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3404 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 5):

Why are the engines located on top of the wings and so close to the aircraft??

Also to reduce engine ingestion of debris on less developed runways...

Russian Aviation And Those Overhead Engines. (by Mirrodie Jan 24 2006 in Tech Ops)

[Edited 2006-02-07 19:56:31]


Cha brro
User currently offlineSCEagle From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

Quoting Afconcorde1 (Reply 6):
I need to have windows so I can see where I am going.

Huh? You can see what you're near... but certainly cannot see where you're going. Unless, of course, you're one of the pilots... but then, it's already established that the aircraft has cockpit windows.


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3208 times:
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Quoting Soups (Thread starter):
Hello
Flew on an internal flight today with aerogaviota in cuba on an AN26 and the whole cabin just had 6 windows!!!(Trip report coming soon). Noticed on a.net database all similar planes have the same configurations. Any other PAX have a small amount of windows¿

YES!!!! Me, my sister and my parents too many years ago.

In a CU flight from VRA to CYO!!!!

What a great experience!!!



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User currently offlineBWI757 From Israel, joined Dec 2004, 429 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 5):
Why are the engines located on top of the wings and so close to the aircraft??
Compare it to the BAe 146-100

Because when the KGB agents of old stole the blueprint plans from BAe for the USSR, they took the decoy set that had the wing installed upside down. What did they know? However their cover was now exposed.....
 duck 

BWI757



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User currently offlineCschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2967 times:

Boeing's YC-14A, the competitor to the C-17, had a similar layout. The one and only example is at the Pima museum in Tucson.


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The strong lift and high engines had advantages on gravel runways, but it lost out to the C-17.


User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1245 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2943 times:

Looks like it would be miserable. I would think it would feel something akin to a carnival ride or something.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2886 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 7):
Most military transports have few or no passenger windows.

That's the great part of the RAF. They do have windows on their military transports, on their VC-10s and TriStars, even on the KC-1.  Wink

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Quoting Afconcorde1 (Reply 6):
I could never fly on a plane like that. Seriously.

I need to have windows so I can see where I am going. If not, I definitely will get air sick.

I'm with you man. Besides, I love looking out when flying and have a spectacular view out. If I get no windows, get me a parachute, then open me the L4 door and I'll deep six myself back to the ground.


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):

Was this a flight to Cayo Largo by any chance?

yeah havana-cayo largo trip report coming up within 24 hours the flight was FUN but NO SAFETY AT ALL



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