Silverstreak From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 281 posts, RR: 1 Posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3902 times:
I will be going to Moscow in June. I would like to know has anyone at this site or know anyone that has visited this museum. I have visited a few sites on line, but they seem to make it sound very complicated for the single traveler. I believe one site suggested that you need an invitation to go there and that you have to pay extra to use any cameras and a guide is mandatory.
Afay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3884 times:
I have been there recently (2004) and have all the guidebooks from their museum store (such as it is). You no longer need permission to visit, although it is on an active base. It is located near Noginsk in the Moscow region. There is a visitors center (in the loosest possible sense) at the entrance to the base, and you pay some small fee to get in and then you are welcome to randomly drive across the base to the airfield. There is a museum center with a lof exhibits there with all the info and parking. You may or may not find someone who speaks english. I do not know if a guide is mandatory, but we had one and got to speak with the commanding officer of the museum and learned personal details about each aircraft.
The guide was frank and honest about the pros and cons of each aircraft and was a retired flier himself. We probably paid $20 and it was well worth it. We were there in winter, but June is the best time of the year in that part of Russia weather wise.
It is open (according to the website) MTRF 9:30-13:30 and from 14:15-17:00. It is open on Saturdays 9:00-14:00. You can take a commuter train from Yaroslavl Station to Monino station or bus 332 from the Izmailovsky Park metro station in Moscow (where the tourist souvenier market is) and get off at the Gagarin Air Force Base (in Russian). It is a short walk from either.
I drove out there myself with some friends. Like anything else in Russia, it is a bit complicated, but with some perseverance, definetaly doable and a wonderful museum.
Levg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3880 times:
The disadvantage of the whole thing is the fact that getting a Russian visa is so complicated that it makes me not want to visit Russia at all, for whatever reason. The make it so hard like you're visiting the moon or something.
A mile of runway takes you to the world. A mile of highway takes you a mile.
Knoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 260 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3825 times:
Went there in 2000, it was well worth it, however we were lucky in such a way that it was part of a summer school between my university and Moscow Aviation Technology Institute (Star City was also impressive).
So never paid a thing for the visit, and the guide was this very old retired pilot who knew freaking everything about the aircraft on display and the museum.
Once again I recommend it, it was amazing!
ps: I struggled indeed to get a visa, the russian consulate kept sending me back my forms saying that something was missing or that I needed to pay extra cash for whatever reason, so I got the advice to write a nice letter with my file, saying "thank you for taking care of my file" etc, etc....and it worked fine!
No matter what anybody tells you, words and ideas can change the world.
TonyB From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3807 times:
I was lucky enough to visit Monino, twice, in July and August 1991. Both visits were on organised aviation trips so all the requisite permissions were obtained beforehand. In those days it was not possible to visit Monino on an individual tourist basis but only as part of an officially invited group. We were shown around by the museum curator who was more than happy to explain all about the aircraft on display. I can only describe how the museum was in 1991, but even then the incredible variety of aircraft and helicopters was quite something, almost every type of aircraft the 'Soviets' had flown (and in some cases only tested) were simply parked out in the grass without any barriers around them and with only a brief plaque (obviously in cyrillic) giving just the make of the aircraft. From the Soviet version of the B-29 right up to the Tu-144 and their version of the Harrier 'jump-jet' the Yak 38 (Forger). I'm no expert on Soviet/Russian aircraft, and there were a few people on our trip far more knowledgeable than me, and they hadn't either seen or heard of a couple of the aircraft on display ! There were no restrictions on photography or access around the exhibits, some of our group were extremely busy taking both the registration numbers and construction numbers of the various aircraft !! As mentioned in the threads above, the museum was on an active air base and there were a number of training flights going on whilst we were there. It is certainly one of the most fascinating aircraft museums I have ever been to, and well worth a visit if you get the chance.