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Boeing CEO "US & Europe May Start Ordering?"  
User currently offlineHalibut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8268 times:

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=19430

Boeing sees rise in '06 orders from U.S., European carriers
(Reuters) — European and U.S. airlines, quiet during a recent aircraft sales boom led by Asian and Middle Eastern carriers, could start ordering planes as soon as this year, Boeing Co.'s chief executive said on Tuesday.

James McNerney, speaking at an analyst conference, said he believed Boeing's $124 billion order backlog could grow further this year, downplaying talk that Boeing and European rival Airbus will see demand slump after a record 2005.

http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1139348525.html

Boeing CEO Says Europe, US May Start Ordering

James McNerney, speaking at an analyst conference, said he believed Boeing's already substantial order backlog could grow further this year, downplaying talk that Boeing and European rival Airbus will see demand slump after a record 2005.

"There's a good chance that (the) backlog will grow again...," McNerney said, while acknowledging "sort of a sweet spot there" in the commercial plane market last year amid fast-growing international air traffic.

Halibut

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User currently offlineHalibut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8218 times:

http://heraldnet.com/stories/06/02/08/100bus_corliss001.cfm

Published: Wednesday, February 8, 2006

Boeing CEO sets new course
Jim McNerney's game plan is to make the company more efficient and improve its corporate culture.

Bryan Corliss
Herald columnist


Boeing has had some big shifts in corporate culture in the past decade. It's in the midst of another one, under the direction of new CEO Jim McNerney, and last week we may have gotten a glimpse of where the new pilot is steering the plane.

Halibut


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8204 times:

The question is of course who will order. Most US legacies need new aircraft, but can't afford them.
In Europe:
KLM may order the replacement for the MD-11, and of course the 737 classics. Other than that, perhaps the 744, but not likely.
BA stated they won't order for at least 2 years (IIRC Willie Walsh said that recently)
LH may order an a343 replacement and/or 737 classics replacement. But they also said the 737's are to stay a while longer. They may order the a300 replacement however, which most people agree the 787-3 is the best replacement. Perhaps more a388's and/or a346's to replace 744's, although unlikely. IMHO the a388 won't get any more orders untill it's in service. Perhaps 748? Possible, but maybe too close to a388 in seating? And the 744's are not that old.
IB just ordered a bunch of a32x's to replace their oldest aircraft, the MD'80's and 757's. The a346's have replaced the 744's already (again, IIRC)
AZ is in no condition to order aircraft.

LCC's:
FR and EZY also just ordered a bunch of aircraft, same as AB.
US LCC's: you should know more about that than me.

IMHO, McNerney may just be a bit optimistic, although I REALLY hope he is right.



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User currently offlineFlyingHippo From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8012 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 2):
The question is of course who will order. Most US legacies need new aircraft, but can't afford them.

I agree with you that most of the US legacy carriers can't efford them right now, however, I think AA, CO, and UA might have to bite the bullet and order some new planes, especially with their plans to expand international traffic, which is the only profitable part of their operations these days.

Right now, AA and CO already need more long range wide bodies (777) to expand into Asia markets, especially to China and India. The airlines in those countries just ordered a bucketload of newer 777/787s, so in order to compete, AA, CO, and UA MUST get newer, more efficient planes to keep up.

I'm interested to see if NW folds, which of the US carriers will grab their routes in Asia, especially their HUB in NRT.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7899 times:

Quoting FlyingHippo (Reply 3):
I'm interested to see if NW folds, which of the US carriers will grab their routes in Asia, especially their HUB in NRT.

AA will go after that with everything they have.

All of the major US Air Lines need new airplanes, mostly WBs. DL really needs additional B-777-200ERs. Perhaps Boeing will make a deal to bail them out of BK for a major order, like Airbus did for US. Boeing may want DL to order the B-777-200LR for their proposed ATL to China routes.

AA really needs to replace those A-300-605Rs, I see a B-787-300 order there. When the leases are up on the TW MD-82s, B-767, and B-757s those airplanes will also get replaced. AA will order some B-777-300ERs, too.

TZ needs some B-767-300ERs, but are looking for used aircraft. But perhaps WN will help them buy some B-787-900s, instead.

UA needs to begin replacing their B-747-400s. Airbus and Boeing will aggressively go for that one with the B-747-800 and the A-380-800.

US is firmly in the Airbus show room, so Boeing won't waste time with them.

CO is in the best health of all, they could order more airplanes, too.

I can see some NB orders for Boeing, too.

It would not surprize me to see WN become a launch customer for the Y-1 (Y-1-200?), perhaps with a firm order for 60-70 airplanes to begin replacing their B-737-300s. AA will also become a launch customer as some of their MD-80 series are getting very old, as are their first order of B-757-200s. AA will order the longer versions of the Y-1 (Y-1-300/400?), maybe as many as 50 airplanes. I look for both of these orders in very late 2006 or anytime in 2007.

DL, and CO may also begin ordering the Y-1, although I really see DL ordering the B-737NG to begin replacing their oldest B-757-200s and MD-88s.

Both UPS and FedEx will also take a good look at the B-777-200LRF. UPS may order some B-747-800Fs to go with their recent order of the B-747-400Fs. I would guess that FedEx will want to look at the proposed Airbus A-330-200F, also.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5831 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7826 times:

The leases are already up for the TWA 767s. They were replaced with brand new 767-323ERs almost two years ago.
AA has hinted that there will be no further 777 orders. Instead, I would predict AA to go for the 787 en masse.
As badly as CO needs airplanes (how are they gonna do the Moscow service if they don't have a plane? How are they gonna do all this 'transatlantic' expansion with mere 752s?) I don't know why they haven't ordered more. Maybe it's a money issue. Maybe it's a timing issue. I do know that they've got 2 777s coming in soon for the China route. Is that THIS March or next? I think it's 2006 that they start that route... sure hope so.

Have you been reading Boeing and Airbus's statements? See the thread on "New engine critical to Y1." There will be no 737 or A320 replacement for about eight years, if you believe the manufacturers, because all three engine makers have said "not yet".

In regards to the original thread, I hope that Boeing goes gangbusters this year, but I don't expect them to beat last year. 2005 was an awesome year for both manufacturers- Airbus in the narrowbody category, and Boeing in widebody and to a lesser degree narrowbody.
Good luck topping that.


User currently offlineHalibut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7818 times:

What are the chanses of US carriers going for the 777-200LR ???

One would think that CO would need the LR , due to there long haul- direct flight stradegy .

Halibut


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7763 times:

Quoting FlyingHippo (Reply 3):
I agree with you that most of the US legacy carriers can't efford them right now, however, I think AA, CO, and UA might have to bite the bullet and order some new planes, especially with their plans to expand international traffic, which is the only profitable part of their operations these days.

Didn't UA say there are no orders fothcoming in the near future? That would rule out 2006. IMHO CO is in the best position of the legacies, but even they are losing money. They are going long-haul with the 757, but aren't alienating passengers who'd rather fly on widebodies? They indeed need some more 777's and I think the 787 can't come soon enough for them. Perhaps they will increase their order this year.

Quoting FlyingHippo (Reply 3):
I'm interested to see if NW folds, which of the US carriers will grab their routes in Asia, especially their HUB in NRT.

What about DL? what will happen to their routes? DL really needs new aircraft also to increase fuel effiency, which is getting more important than cheap lease rates at the way the oil price is going. NW has some a330's on order, and IIRC some a32x's, but does DL have any aircraft on order, which have not been deferred?



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User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7667 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
I don't know why they haven't ordered more.

Although it's a small change, CO did add two more 787-8's to their order recently.



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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7598 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 2):
BA stated they won't order for at least 2 years (IIRC Willie Walsh said that recently)

Willie was'nt very clear on when BA will order planes. He said that they wont be 'taking' any new ones (I take this as no deliverys, but not nessessarily no orders) until the T5 matter out of the way.

EI will almost certainly make a wide body order this year, either A322+A350 or 772ER+787.

I expect an order from Air Madrid also and some passenger 748 sales. I think there will be little or possibly no A380 orders until it enters service. Some carriers are waiting to see how it turns out in service.


User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1885 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7569 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 4):
It would not surprize me to see WN become a launch customer for the Y-1 (Y-1-200?), perhaps with a firm order for 60-70 airplanes to begin replacing their B-737-300s. AA will also become a launch customer as some of their MD-80 series are getting very old, as are their first order of B-757-200s. AA will order the longer versions of the Y-1 (Y-1-300/400?), maybe as many as 50 airplanes. I look for both of these orders in very late 2006 or anytime in 2007.

I don't think we'll see any orders for Y-1 (797??) before 2008. There are no engines available for this aircraft and it looks like there won't be any before 2010. Flight International has an interesting article about it in the recent issue.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31011 posts, RR: 86
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7478 times:
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Quoting Kappel (Reply 2):
The question is of course who will order. Most US legacies need new aircraft, but can't afford them.

If the domestics do select the 787, they may place very small orders (5-10 frames ala CO/NW) or place larger orders, but just make minimum down payments to secure "production slots" which they could then move around as their finances/needs dictate.

Quoting Kappel (Reply 2):
LH...may order the a300 replacement however, which most people agree the 787-3 is the best replacement.

But would LH want to operate a one-off non-Airbus plane? Their fleet seems to be migrating (slowly) towards all Airbus.

Quoting Halibut (Reply 6):
What are the chanses of US carriers going for the 777-200LR?

UA was very interested, as was DL, when it was the 777-200X. DL couldn't come up with the cash, and UA decided to stick with the 744. CO also showed some interest until the trans-polar routings opened up EWR-HKG to the 777-200ER.


User currently offlineSoAmSky From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7420 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
Have you been reading Boeing and Airbus's statements? See the thread on "New engine critical to Y1." There will be no 737 or A320 replacement for about eight years, if you believe the manufacturers, because all three engine makers have said "not yet"

Do you really believe there is not going to be a replacement in this category for about eight years? no way... If the 737 continues to lose ground against the A320, Boeing has to answer that with a new plane.



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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7361 times:

EI321

Airbus said at their conference which took plave on Jan17th , they will get two new airlines in the A380 order book this year.
However you are right , stating that some airlines (BA , CX , JL , NH) are waiting for the introduction of this plane in commercial service , to see how it performs , before ordering it or not.

I am a little bit sceptical about new orders from European and American airlines this year.But probably if Boeing said that , they (and Airbus too...) know something we do not know.Secretly discussions with airlines.........
I really do not see any huge orders coming from flag European carriers this year, except Aer Lingus, and Aeroflot, and even they will be NO huge....
Certainly the American airlines are a big potential planes buyers , but it seems to me , it's too early this year.
United is a very high potential A380 customer , but probably not this year.


User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7260 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
But would LH want to operate a one-off non-Airbus plane? Their fleet seems to be migrating (slowly) towards all Airbus.

At first glance, it does appear that they are moving to an all Airbus fleet, but the CEO of LH was quoted as saying that they (LH) do not intend to become an all-Airbus carrier. In that light, I can see LH ordering the 787-3 and the 747-8, in both pax and cargo flavors.

Quoting FCKC (Reply 13):
United is a very high potential A380 customer , but probably not this year.

Sorry my friend FCKC, but I disagree with you on this one. UA will order the 747-8 for 744 replacement, and probably not very many of those. I do see them placing a large 787 order, again all models.

[Edited 2006-02-08 19:52:27]


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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7251 times:

Quoting EI321 (Reply 9):
I expect an order from Air Madrid also and some passenger 748 sales. I think there will be little or possibly no A380 orders until it enters service. Some carriers are waiting to see how it turns out in service.

There will most certainly be some orders from european and US airlines, but I don't expect the orders to be as huge as the asian and Qantas orders.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
But would LH want to operate a one-off non-Airbus plane? Their fleet seems to be migrating (slowly) towards all Airbus.

They still have the 737 classics and 744. IIRC it was their CEO who has repeatedly stated that they do not want to become depended on one OEM. So while the 737's will most likely be replaced by a320's eventually, it's posible that the 744's and a300's replacement may be Boeings (787/748)

Quoting SoAmSky (Reply 12):
Boeing has to answer that with a new plane.

As repeatedly mentioned in the FI article, it's not up to Boeing, or Airbus for that matter. No engine=no boeing Y1/airbus NSR

Quoting FCKC (Reply 13):
am a little bit sceptical about new orders from European and American airlines this year

Same here. Undoubtedly there will be some small orders here and there, perhaps a surprise or two, but in general not the volume of the asian orders.



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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6578 times:

Quoting FlyingHippo (Reply 3):
I'm interested to see if NW folds, which of the US carriers will grab their routes in Asia, especially their HUB in NRT.

NW ordered 787s not that long ago. I'm probably behind the power curve but what makes you think they're going to fold?



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User currently offlineDa man From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6313 times:

I can foresee WN ordering some of the new 737-700ERs, possibly for service to Hawaii, and Bermuda. (Hey, I can hope, right?)

I also see BA ordering the 747-8 and blatantly rejecting the A380 in its entirety.



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User currently offlineSkyHarborsHome From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 273 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6135 times:

Quoting Da man (Reply 17):
I can foresee WN ordering some of the new 737-700ERs, possibly for service to Hawaii, and Bermuda. (Hey, I can hope, right?)

Probably is a long shot but they have the life vests now  Big grin



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User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5680 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 2):
The question is of course who will order. Most US legacies need new aircraft, but can't afford them.

As US has proved with its A350 order, you don't necessarily need to have cash on hand to buy/lease new planes. If the economics and business needs justify it, I think UA, AA, and CO (the carriers not currently in bankruptcy) may place more orders this year. It's not as if they need to have the cash in hand right now.

Given the production slots of some of these planes (like the 787) are filling up, I wouldn't be surprised to see them bite the bullet.


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4491 times:

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 14):
Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
But would LH want to operate a one-off non-Airbus plane? Their fleet seems to be migrating (slowly) towards all Airbus.

At first glance, it does appear that they are moving to an all Airbus fleet, but the CEO of LH was quoted as saying that they (LH) do not intend to become an all-Airbus carrier. In that light, I can see LH ordering the 787-3 and the 747-8, in both pax and cargo flavors.


Yes the CEO has said that. He also said that they are no charity when they ordered more A340-600 instead of a by Boeing much anticipated 777 order. If the aircraft fits the bill, and it appears to be an Airbus product again, LH will order Airbus. And if that means shifting even more towards a single supplier, so will it be. Just ordering aircraft from the other manufacturer for the sake of not ordering from the same manufacturer again is no reason to do so.



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User currently offlineUa933 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3752 times:

I don't think that we can expect any orders from NW and DL in the near future due to Ch. 11.
My guess is that UA and CO will be the airlines to order new A/C.
UA need international capacity for it's international growth. A a result I expect a 744 replacement (388 vs. 748) and more 772ERs. As for a big order of 787s I think it is too soon having just exited Ch. 11 eventhough a 763 replacement is also necessary! But there will not be any orders prior to the 1. Quarter results.
Just like UA CO also need international capacity but I only expect 772s to be ordered and not something the size of a 748!
We will just have to wait and see  bouncy 



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User currently offlineTifoso From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3727 times:

Randy dropped a hint in his latest blog entry: http://www.boeing.com/randy/

Quoting Randy Baseler:

If it's a new year, then it must be time to city-hop through Europe once again, chatting with customers, industry investors, supplier partners, and media.

I just spent an enjoyable couple of weeks traveling to Ireland (Dublin and Shannon) and London, as well as stops in Munich and Rome.

Of course, I don't know which stop corresponded to a customer, and which to a supplier.  Smile


User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3673 times:

Quoting Manni (Reply 20):
Yes the CEO has said that. He also said that they are no charity when they ordered more A340-600 instead of a by Boeing much anticipated 777 order. If the aircraft fits the bill, and it appears to be an Airbus product again, LH will order Airbus. And if that means shifting even more towards a single supplier, so will it be. Just ordering aircraft from the other manufacturer for the sake of not ordering from the same manufacturer again is no reason to do so.

The weakness in your argument is that Airbus simply doesn't have an answer for the 787-3 which most on this forum would agree is the perfect A300 replacement product. And since they fly so many 744s, logically the 747-8 would be an almost perfect fit, between the A340 and A380s. You also failed to mention that their Cargo operations are all-Boeing (MD-11) and they are still considering both the 777-LRF and 747-8 Freighters, again, since Airbus offers no direct competitor to either of these aircraft. LH Cargo is a heavy lift operation, not a bulk cargo carrier, so the A380F offering is at a disadvantage for them.
Therefore I'll use your own argument to support mine... LH will purchase whatever aircraft from whatever manufactuer suits it's needs, and at this point, I would say that Boeing is in a very strong position.



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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1885 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 22):
Quoting Randy Baseler:

If it's a new year, then it must be time to city-hop through Europe once again, chatting with customers, industry investors, supplier partners, and media.

I just spent an enjoyable couple of weeks traveling to Ireland (Dublin and Shannon) and London, as well as stops in Munich and Rome.

Of course, I don't know which stop corresponded to a customer, and which to a supplier.

Dublin & Shannon - well, it's too close to call on 787 vs A350 here, this could go either way.
London - 777-300ER & 747-8i order by BA
Munich - 787-3 & 747-8i for LH, discussions about Y1
Rome - supplier visit. AZ is in too much of a $hithole to order anything...

those are my guesses  Smile



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25 USAF336TFS : Great calls... Couldn't agree more.
26 Post contains images Manni : Now you come up with a whole set of new arguments. however I replied to this response of yours... and you brought up this as a reason to order Boeing
27 Post contains images USAF336TFS : New arguments? I wish that I had come up them. No, they've been dicussed ad nausem on this and many other threads. Perhaps you missed them. I did...
28 AMSSFO : You were not clear at all. You did not state that it was one of many reasons: No reason to bash Manni. We all agree on one thing: and price.
29 Atnight : Guys, don't take this the wrong way, but to me it's funny how you guys, US folks, are sooo enthusiastic and optimistic about Boeing's products, that
30 Post contains links Halibut : Atnight, I think you may be taking this US a-netter stuff just a little too far & nothing was mentioned regarding super power status . However , pleas
31 Post contains images BlueSky1976 : I just fell off the chair... In the other thread PlaneDane (I believe) called me "Airbus Cheerleader" a few hours ago I'm laughing my @$$ off right n
32 Cahiwa : Wow! I do not post often, but for this gringo, this is scary stuff. I live in WA State, Spokane, to be exact. Residents everywhere in the Evergreen S
33 Post contains images Manni : As AMSSFO pointed out, you were not clear at all. Also, I've never expressed the wish that LH should operate an all Airbus fleet. I'll avoid a simila
34 Vegasplanes : The quote that you are referring to is an a.netter who is a Boeing salesperson, hence he is trying to sell the products mentioned to the airlines tha
35 Post contains images USAF336TFS : Thank you for your precision in the English language. The implications I made were there. I'm sorry if I have not yet mastered mental telepathy.   
36 AMSSFO : : While: and I agree with him. You likely did not mean to bash him, but to me it looked that way.
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