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User currently offlineFvyfireman From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 41 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5075 times:

I noticed pics of Russian aircraft in the UK but never any in the US. Why is that?


Thanks.

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User currently offlineAirlineAV8tr From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 191 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5035 times:

Quoting Fvyfireman (Thread starter):

We get them here in IAH (Houston, TX) quite often. We get the AN-124, the AN-12, and about three times a year the AN-225. While I certainly agree with you that it's rare to see them at other locations in the US. Russian a/c have a certain "flair" that makes them interesting.



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User currently offlineEksath From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1309 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5031 times:
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these are regulars in South Florida. They are based at OPF


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User currently offlineScalebuilder From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4990 times:

Quoting Fvyfireman (Thread starter):
I noticed pics of Russian aircraft in the UK but never any in the US. Why is that?


Thanks.

Probably the timing of your presence (or of those with a camera). You will have to go back in time to find Russian built passenger aircraft as commonplace visitors to U.S. airports. Early to mid 90's (at least for the East Coast and the Midwest). The West Coast has been blessed with much more recent visitors. Keep in mind that the UK is and has been mostly served by Russian short-range aircraft (hence there are more photo opportunities out there). These are much more common than the long-range aircaft that used to serve the U.S. markets.

I have personally witnessed IL-86s take off from JFK (one mighty sight), and IL-62's at both Chicago and Miami.

Russian passenger aircraft are definitely a rarity in the U.S. these days. You are more likely to spot a Russian cargo aircraft.  Wink . These custom aircraft are probably the best aircraft that the Russians ever built, and there is definitely a worldwide market for these out there.


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4980 times:

Yep, AN124's almost every day somewhere in the US.
The Russian Government IL62s frequently visit Andrews and JFK.
As already mentioned, OPF for smaller Antonovs.

Also, FLL and DEN sometimes see the Libyan IL76s.

That's about it,

Jimbo



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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7187 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4963 times:

Good amount of Russian Aircraft in South Florida too. AN-24 and AN-12s hopefully MIA will be getting IL-86 soon. And AN-124s fly in the states often for Cargo reasons.


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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4917 times:

FlyMIA,any news on the IL86 that was supposed to serve MIA from Moscow this Spring ?


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User currently offlineBG777300ER From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2005, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4910 times:

I think we don't see them as much here because they are mostly used by European and Asian airlines and they use them for shorter distances. And most Russian made civilian aircraft don't really have the range to reach America from Eastern Europe/Russia which is mostly where they are used.


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User currently offlineAirlineAV8tr From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 191 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4877 times:

Cubana used to operate Tupolev a/c into MIA when I was a kid. I believe they were TU-114's? (I'm probably totally wrong there). But an interesting fact was that they would leave Havana extremely light on fuel, because they could readily, and for much less money, purchase Jet-A in the states! It would be great if Cubana operated their new IL-86 to the US!
And the AN-24 recently made a stop in my base of IAH, from OPF. We were in the employee lot when this loud, low flying, and incredibly smoky Russian a/c rumbled overhead! It made a couple flights into IAH after that, but I haven't seen it since. Any idea of when/if it'll be back? Thanks!



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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4664 times:

I don't know if Russian a/c are more common in Canada, but I have seen, at YYZ, these Russian types -
An-12, An-22, An-124 (A frequent visitor).
Il-18D (Aerocaribbean), Il-62 (Air Ukraine, Cubana, Russian Government), Il-76, Il-96 (Russian Government).
Tu-154 (Cubana, Czech Government, Slovak Government).
Also, at YTR, the An-225


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4683 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4654 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 4):
hopefully MIA will be getting IL-86 soon



Quoting United_fan (Reply 6):
FlyMIA,any news on the IL86 that was supposed to serve MIA from Moscow this Spring ?



Quoting AirlineAV8tr (Reply 8):
It would be great if Cubana operated their new IL-86 to the US!

I guess all of you mean the Il-96. Cubana has no Il-86s, which would also need 2 fuel stops to make MOV-MIA.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4586 times:

Do any of the countries from that part of the world or who operate russian aircraft fly regular passenger flights into the US, lets say for example into JFK? If so, what do they use for these flights?


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User currently offlinePillowTester From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

I saw an AN-124 in Seattle a few years ago...

Quoting A342 (Reply 10):
Cubana has no Il-86s, which would also need 2 fuel stops to make MOV-MIA.

I think it would need a bit more than 2 to make it from Moranbah, QL, Australia, to Miami, FL, United States.



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4575 times:
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Ever Aeronica of Nicaragua flown to USA wih its TU5????

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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4683 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4530 times:

Quoting PillowTester (Reply 12):
Quoting A342 (Reply 10):
Cubana has no Il-86s, which would also need 2 fuel stops to make MOV-MIA.

I think it would need a bit more than 2 to make it from Moranbah, QL, Australia, to Miami, FL, United States.

I´m sorry, I meant MOW, which is the code for the metropolitan Moscow area.



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlinePillowtester From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4488 times:

Quoting A342 (Reply 14):
I´m sorry, I meant MOW, which is the code for the metropolitan Moscow area.

I assumed that... I was just having a good chuckle...



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User currently offlineMGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4288 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 13):
Ever Aeronica of Nicaragua flown to USA wih its TU5????

Nope. They flew the 727, 720 and 707 on those routes (after they took them from Lanica). I actually never saw the TU-154 anywere else but MGA. Anybody has any info on what routes they covered or maybe somebidy flew on it. Would love to hear about it!

MGA



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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3967 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4241 times:

Not to be too anal, however Antonov is based in the Ukraine, not Russia. And since these planes were designed and built during the 60s, 70s and 80s they are Soviet era aircraft. So perhaps the title should read "Soviet era aircraft in the US".

Let flamin begin.

Thomas



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User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

Hehe and Ukraine no longer wishes to be called "the Ukraine" as ukraine means borderland in russian/ukrainian, thereby implying Ukraine is a borderland of something (i.e. its large neighbor, Russia). So it is just "Ukraine."

User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2300 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4085 times:

If we're talking passenger aircraft, the only Russian long-range plane which is allowed to fly to the West under current noise restrictions is the IL-96. The IL-62 is too noisy. And since there are very few IL-96s around (I don't remember exactly, but less than 20), it's natural that very few of them will ever visit the USA.

Among medium-range and short-range airplanes, later versions of the Tu-154, plus Tu-204 and Tu-214 are still allowed to visit the West. I also believe that it's techincally possible to equip the Tu-134 with hush-kits which would enable it to fly to the West, but that the cost would be too high.

The IL-86 is too noisy, and also does not have the range for nonstop flights to North America, although I did fly on an IL-86 nonstop once between SVO-KHV, which is 6100 km. But that plane was almost empty.



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User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3506 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

We've gotten a couple at SEA over the years, mostly flying SU's SEA-SVO flight. I caught an AN-124 on approach to SEA several years ago as well, maybe PillowTester and I saw the same one.


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User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4038 times:

HNL gets an An-124 about every other month, or so. Mostly Volga-Dnepr, for military charters.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32884 posts, RR: 71
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4035 times:

Russian airline Domodedovo Airlines is planning on starting Miami-Moscow/DME service this summer, using IL-96 aircraft 3x per week. It will be the only scheduled trans-Atlantic service between the US and Russia with a Russian plane. They received tentative DOT approval in late January and should get final DOT approval this week or next.


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