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Lufthansa A320 Incident In Belgrade  
User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8031 times:

An A320 skidded of the taxiway in Belgrade this morning. There are no injured among passengers or crew. There were 63 passengers and five crew on board flight LH 3409 bound to Frankfurt. Sorry, no links in English yet, only one in Serbian:
http://www.rts.co.yu/jedna_vest.asp?source=komentar&IDNews=140933


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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7947 times:

Too much rostilj and prepecenica for the German crew ha? Big grin

Glad everyone is OK!



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User currently offlineHBDAN From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 661 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7947 times:

hmmmm i was just wondering, a load factor of only 42%...

Regards,
HBDAN



Next flight: hopefully soon...
User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7928 times:

Quoting HBDAN (Reply 2):
hmmmm i was just wondering, a load factor of only 42%...

Its the low season... plus a dull Thursday. FRA is ususally quite busy.



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7848 times:

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 1):
Too much rostilj and prepecenica

 rotfl  "Moj Misko moze vezanih ociju..."

Seriously, plane ended some 80 meters off the taxiway. The cause was probably ice, or too much partying.... German investigators will come to Belgrade today.



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User currently offlineVlada From Serbia, joined Aug 2005, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7596 times:

So, is the plane still in the mud besides the taxiway?

I saw this A320 this morning at 5 when I arrived from Tel Aviv on JU071. Odd thing it slipped of the taxiway just an hour later.

A very good thing is that nobody's injured.

Regards,
Vlada


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7512 times:

Quoting Vlada (Reply 5):
So, is the plane still in the mud besides the taxiway?

I suppose not. Everything seems just as usual, according to the teletext and BEG website.

Have you seen the registration of that plane?



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User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7077 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 6):
Have you seen the registration of that plane?

D-AIPF (MSN 0083) according to JACDEC:
http://www.jacdec.de/news/news.htm


User currently offlineTowerEye From Serbia, joined Jun 2005, 64 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6984 times:

As of 1700h loc D-AIPF was still in mud with lot of ground staff around. According to my handhald Air Band receiver TWY A is CLSD fm TWY D to TWY E.  Smile


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User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6967 times:

Another incident in Servia just happened today, now at Pristina airport:
http://www.serbianna.com/news/2006/01207.html
A MA Fokker 70 skidded of the runway while landing in snowy weather at Pristina on Thursday, prompting authorities to close the international airport.

None of the plane's 45 passengers and five crew members were injured, and no damage could be observed on the aircraft
airport closed


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6850 times:

Quoting TowerEye (Reply 8):

I heard some rumours about near miss at BEG few days ago. The planes mentioned were Lufthansa from Munich trying to land and JAT plane still on the runway. Any truth in that?



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User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6774 times:

LH with only a 46% load factor. AF packs them in like sardines to CDG. In Nov. my AF flight from BEG-CDG was 100% full.

User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6118 times:

Seems like a job for Joe Petroni junior, mud, snow, ice. I can smell the box of cigarettes. Does Joe have relatives living there?

User currently offlineA3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6040 times:

Quoting Dc863 (Reply 11):
LH with only a 46% load factor. AF packs them in like sardines to CDG. In Nov. my AF flight from BEG-CDG was 100% full.

So? That was some 3 months ago... In January/February there's always a "hole" in business, not only aviation...
In November, our sales were 30% more than we were expecting, but now in February we have to deal with about 45% less... That's the way it is  Wink



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User currently offlineHaj96 From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5856 times:

Any news about the aircraft? Any major damages? Did it return to FRA already?
As of this article it was supposed to return to FRA yesterday already:

http://www.netzeitung.de/reise/381715.html (sorry, only german).

Thanks in advance for info.

Regards,
haj96


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

Quoting Haj96 (Reply 14):
Any major damages? Did it return to FRA already?

There are no major damages and the plane will return to Germany today.



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User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4474 times:

Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 9):
None of the plane's 45 passengers and five crew members were injured

On Netzeitung they are talking about 63 passengers.

Quoting Dc863 (Reply 11):
LH with only a 46% load factor. AF packs them in like sardines to CDG. In Nov. my AF flight from BEG-CDG was 100% full.



Quoting HBDAN (Reply 2):
a load factor of only 42%...

What do you expect? Always 100 % load factor? Have heared about Low and High seasons?



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User currently offlineTowerEye From Serbia, joined Jun 2005, 64 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4456 times:

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 10):

I am familiar with that event, but that was NOT a near miss, just a GO AROUND initiated by DLH pilot. JAT and DLH were packed tightly on an ILS, JAT reduced speed to minima, DLH being a little faster and that's all. DLH landed without any problems few minutes later.
Where did you hear about that?  eyebrow 



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4409 times:

Quoting TowerEye (Reply 17):
Where did you hear about that?

On TV yesterday, I think BK (bit I'm not 100% sure because I switched channels frequently to find out more on A320) said that passengers from that flight contacted them, so it sounded a bit weird.



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User currently offlineTowerEye From Serbia, joined Jun 2005, 64 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

And the TV station ( BK ) decided to call that a Near miss? Shame.


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User currently offlineSerbianSkies From Serbia, joined Jan 2006, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

I fly on LH3409 often -- in fact I will be on Monday -- and most of the time passengers are groggy due to the early departure time, so I can imagine their surprise when the plane plowed into the field ...

Does anyone have an idea when the preliminary incident report will be done? In these circumstances, do the Serbian and German CAA's do a joint investigation or separate?


User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4336 times:

It IS BK after all  Wink
-Mr. X
PS: Here's my translation

The Jat Media Center has stated that most of the passengers on the Lufthansa plane that skidded off of the taxiway today, flew to Frankfurt at 14.00 on JAT flight 350, of the Serbian national carrier.

The Airbus A320 of the German company Lufthansa with 63 passengers and 5 crew members slid off of the taxiway at the 'Belgrade' airport in the morning, about 6.30am close to the time of the departure of Belgrade-Frankfurt

In a double statement, Belgrade Airport and Lufthansa haven't found the reason for the incident, they only said that noone was injured, and there was no apparent damage to the aircraft.

Of course, my Serbian isn't the best in the world  Wink



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4318 times:

The information there sounded like a major alert. LH plane aborted landing in the last second, circling around, etc. In fact, if all they have were passengers' testimonies, that is understandable. Unprofessional, but understandable. After all, have you ever seen a decent information on anything related to civil aviation on any of the local TV channels?


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User currently offlineSerbianSkies From Serbia, joined Jan 2006, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4318 times:

Quoting TowerEye (Reply 19):
And the TV station ( BK ) decided to call that a Near miss? Shame.

It was a slow news day because Bogoljub is outside the country.  Wink


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

Oh, BTW it also sounded like a major mistake from the tower, so I thought about organizing a demonstrations and throwing stones at you folks  Wink


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25 Post contains images JoKeR : Definitely, and D'n'D's album is not doing the best either The "near miss" story is utter rubbish, an aborted landing, so what! It happens everywhere
26 Post contains images Aleksandar : I bet you have all their CDs and DVDs with video clips I agree, just don't shoot poor messenger
27 Post contains images JoKeR : Yes, cannot live without them!
28 Post contains images Aleksandar : So, you're the one from the first row who always screams? I mean, it's understandable, their music is something sooo special. As for the incident the
29 TowerEye : As of Friday evening D-AIPF is still on LYBE, waiting to be serviced. It appears that some hydraulic pipes have been damaged. Consider this as an unof
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