Rom1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7773 times:
Does anyone has informations about 2 flights leaving the US today to the Canary Islands? These ase "cargo" flights transporting a total of 4 orcas (Killer Whales) from Sea World Texas and Sea World Orlando, to Tenerife Loro Parque.
No shuch things have been made since the Keiko flight to Iceland and I'm sure not many people have heard of it in San Antonio and Orlando but I was looking for some informations and pictures about the 2 flights!
Rom1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7683 times:
Hi FX ramper
Thanks for your quick reply.
The DC 10 might be too small... not the aircraft but the cargo door must be at least 10m wide for the tank (where the orca "sits"). I could be wrong of course. The orca will probably leave in the evening or night because of all the people in the park.
(For Keiko it was a C17 Globemaster)
I'm surprised not to find any informations on local newspaper around San Antonio... This orca move have been planned for a while now.
But just how exactly does one ship a whale? It seems like quite an endeavor!
Normally, they put the whale in a tank, full of water. A couple of "human friends" stay around the whale to give it some water if needed...
They fly the whale in a big cargo plane, hopefully everything goes well, probably they won't try high risk manoeuvres or "free-fall" attempt....
Remember a killer whale is "only" 5 or 6 metres long.
Rom1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7515 times:
Quoting UA933 (Reply 7): Does anybody know as to why they are taking them to the Canary Islands?
they have been sold to the Loro Parque in the Canary Islands, the zoo is expanding and is starting to show killer whales from February 17th.
basically it's an exchange of captive whales... money again stikes back...(anyway it's not really the place to talk about this matter...)
CaptainCanuck From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 30 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7411 times:
Not that big of a deal. My dad transported a Beluga whale from up in the arctic down into lower Canada. Not sure where it was going though. That was in a DC-3 back in the 1970's. Just said it was weird because you could feel the whale move in the water as the weight transfered around.
AeroWeanie From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1604 posts, RR: 52 Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7199 times:
There is only one Orca captured in Puget Sound/Straits of Georgia still alive in captivity (Lolita). All the rest in the US came from Iceland. They were all air transported to where they are living now. I seem to remember video footage of some being loaded on a DC-8 in Iceland. Keiko flew from Mexico to Oregon on a UPS C-130 and then from Oregon to Iceland in a USAF C-17 (including two air-to-air refuelings).
We have kayaked with the J, K and L resident Orcas pods in Puget Sound many times. They are very intelligent, friendly and social animals. They really seem to like social contact with humans. We have a hydrophone and enjoy listening to them vocalizing and echo-locating. On the othe hand, the transient Orcas that we occasionally encounter are scary. They are aggresive, but have never been documented attacking a human. We had one charge us several years ago and it only submerged several feet away. It was scary watching it go under our kayak, just a few feet down, with the big eye tracking us the whole time.
Rom1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6512 times:
I would love to, unfortunately I don't know it. From my source, the move is not scheduled for tonight.
The landing in Tenerife will probably be by night however, because the Loro Parque doesn't really want a lot of people to see their orcas in small tanks..
Keep watching the topic, I'll give any information I can about the time of arrival, actually if you could take pictures that would be very very interesting...
to: The Sonntag: These are 4 young whales, maximum weight for each one will lie between 1 and 2 tons
A Orca (killer whale) isn't a huge whale...it's a mammal...and will most definitely fit through our main cargo door on a MD11. Did you ever figure out who flew the beasts?
Drew in AUS.
I know the difference between an Orca and a Whale.
I just didn't know the the MD11 cargo door was that big, I guess you load a MD11 on the side, and a cargo door larger than 5 meters just seem very big. A front loading on a B747 (like Kalitta Air) just seem more appropriate...
For example, looking at this picture: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0973224/M/
I can't imagine a 5 meters long (at least) tank fit through this door.
However you know better than me on loading a MD11 so I won't assume that I'm right (and let you correct me if I'm wrong )
What do you mean by "Did you ever figure out who flew the beasts?"...?