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Sir Freddie Laker Dies  
User currently offlineAirways45 From United Kingdom, joined May 2000, 300 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8584 times:

There's a recent threat on pprune that Sir Freddie has just died:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=210490



Airways45

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8567 times:

If true, that is a big hole to fill.

One of the pioneers of the cheap seat.



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5673 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8567 times:

Aww, how sad. One of my favorite Airline Cheifs.


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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17489 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8542 times:

I thought he was already long gone. My bad.


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User currently offlineAirways45 From United Kingdom, joined May 2000, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8516 times:

According to Reuters, Freddie died in Miami. He was 83

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...ruary/5/newsid_2535000/2535297.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Laker

Airways45


User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8516 times:

Sad to see him go. One of the most colorful airline execs to ever board a DC-10. RIP.

Charles, SJ



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User currently offlineBAxMAN From St. Helena, joined May 2004, 671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8516 times:

Confirmed here by Reuters.

Very sad. Skytrain may not have succeeded as he hoped, but his business undisputably paved the way for others to follow.



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User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8481 times:

May he rest in peace!  praise 


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User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8481 times:
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He was an interesting character who lived his life to the fullest. People either loved him or hated him, sometimes wavering between the two, but no one could ever say he let any grass grow on his racetrack.

Aviation was in his blood and he certainly left his mark.

He had a great run.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12142 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8465 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
One of the pioneers of the cheap seat.

Yes, he sold one way tickets on Laker DC-10-10s from London to the US west coast (refueling stop in BGR) for under $100 US in the 1970s. Later he eliminated the BGR fuel stop when he got the DC-10-30. IIRC he flew into LAX on the west coast, BGR, BOS and JFK on the east coast.

But, I believe that Laker Airways went bankrupt around 1980. Is that correct?

RIP, my friend, Sir Freddie Laker


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13113 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8442 times:

One of the 1st European pioneers of LCC's. He was able to get the low cost airline slot between JFK and LGW, later between EWR and LGW, later used by BCal and Virgin. I remember the ads (print and radio) for his 'Laker Airways' for about $99-149/one way with round trip. It also triggred a price war with all of the other airlines serving between the NYC area and UK market to also offer similarly cheap fares, something we still see today.  tombstone 

User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8442 times:

One of the aviation greats, who pioneered the revolution we see in our skies today. A loss to the industry  Sad


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User currently offline808TWA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 701 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8350 times:

Fairwell Freddie, thanks for an awesome transatlantic flight PIK-YYZ-PIK on your DC-10-30 ....This 10 year old loved it back in 1980.

RIP



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User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8350 times:

Rest In Peace Sir Freddie!


Forever Flight
User currently offlineDoor5Right From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 707 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8325 times:

Three Cheers for Sir Freddie!

http://www.lakerairways.co.uk/



My soul is in the sky...
User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7149 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8267 times:

Another aviation pioneer dies. May he rest in peace.


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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8245 times:

Thanks Sir Freddie. You were my airline hero..rocking the industy with the cheap across the pond fares on the DC-10. TW and BA, your main competition at that time went bonkers and lowered their fares to retain the business. Then it spread all over the world....cheap tickets to anywhere....you are the man and will not be equaled by anyone as an airline pioneer....and that includes for Mr. Branson.
safe



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8245 times:

Sad news, may he rest in peace.

Patrick  Sad


User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8215 times:

Sadly, another great visionary left us!

Thank you for that:
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Photo © Darrel W. Duarte



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 8147 times:

Yes one of my role models in Commercial Aviation, he never got what he deserved, those with great plans and dreams for the general public to fly more often usually get burnt by SUITS from legacy and cold blooded for profit carriers.

I always blame BA and VS for the demise of Laker Airways.

Wish we had a chance to see the GLOBETRAIN operation, where he would have flown the jets to Asia and other Continents at cheap fares.

May he rest in peace.



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User currently offlineAirways45 From United Kingdom, joined May 2000, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 8129 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 19):
I always blame BA and VS for the demise of Laker Airways.

Don't blame Virgin! Surely you mean TWA etc? Virgin didn't start until a couple of years after Laker Airways failed. Laker was a friend of Virgin Atlantic (and Virgin renamed G-VMIA the Spirit of Sir Freddie in grateful homage to a real aviation pioneer).

Airways45


User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 8089 times:

A real big loss to one of the trendsetters in the airline industry.

Sir Freddie Laker, rest in peace, & prayers go out to the Laker family.



"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3042 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 8083 times:

Sad to see an airline pioneer go.  frown 

Rest in peace Sir Freddie Laker.


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 8038 times:

A tear drop fails.

A truely great man has left us.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12110 posts, RR: 48
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 8026 times:
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Sad to see him leave this Earth for his final flight to the great beyond, Sir Freddie your flight is now available for boarding, please watch you step and enjoy your adventure. God bless and God speed on your final journey. You will be missed, though always remembered.


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25 Malaysia : In the later days I mean after 1984 VS startup, the later Laker Airways to Florida, VS now came into the fold to compete against the later LAKER AIRWA
26 LPLAspotter : Very bad news indeed. I really respected the guy, unlike Virgin's Branson (my opinion flame me if you want). LPLAspotter
27 IRelayer : This is sad news indeed. Sir Freddie's story featured prominently in one of my favorite computer games, Airbucs (look in the manual). From there I fou
28 Georgiabill : Rest in peace S.ir Freddie Laker. Thank you for skytrain! May your memory live long in the hearts of the aviation community
29 474218 : I am sure Sir Freddie took the Skytrain to the promise land. May he RIP.
30 Post contains images Boeing Nut : Hip, hip, hooray! Hip. hip. hooray! Hip, hip, hooray!!!!!! Indeed. Farewell Sir Fredde. We need more of you in this industry.
31 Dallas74 : Thank you for posting the links. It is sad to see one of the good ones finally go. I heard him speak at a few industry conferences and he was always a
32 FlyCaledonian : Truely an aviation pioneer. It's also a fact that nobody has yet attempted to emulate Laker's SkyTrain, i.e. longhaul low cost carrier. All said and d
33 Malaysia : Skylink Airways was originally going to do it, but instead they changed name to MAXJET and offered business class instead of being a low-cost long ha
34 Wedgetail737 : When I was little, I remember seeing Sir Freddie's Laker Airways ticket counter at OAK, but never saw the airplane.
35 Lufthansa : I think we should organsise a STATE FUNERAL!!!! I think the Queen should come, and of course Margaret thatcher should speak, plus richard branson, and
36 777fan : I flew a Laker Air B727-200 from BWI-FPT for New Year's 2002; it was tired but got us to and fro. Arguably the smoothest landing ever (in FPT).
37 Simong : I have very fond memories of my Laker B707 flights YUL-LGW-YUL in 1976..... RIP A great loss to the industry.
38 JoKeR : We salute you Sir Freddie! R.I.P.
39 Viscount630 : Sir Freddie had been a major player in the airline industry long before the Skytrain that everyone here seems to be concentrating on. His early compan
40 HS748 : Let's not get too romantic over this - this is a man who forced female cabin crew to leave their jobs when they got married, left hundreds of staff jo
41 ViveAF : My thoughts and prayers to Sir Freddie and his family. He was truly one of the Aviation Greats, the pioneer of affordable air travel and a huge charac
42 WhiteHatter : As someone who was entranced by Sir Freddie's shiny DC10s as a teenager, and that's one of the reasons I ended up in the job, I am genuinely upset by
43 CV990 : Hi! I want to pay my tribute to Sir Freddie Laker. I true gentleman and a guy way ahead the others when he was running Laker. He's now in the "Hall of
44 CamAir : It's sad to hear of his death. I hope he finds lots of new projects in the hereafter.
45 AirWales : This is sad news. I know that Virgin named a plane after Sir Freddie which I actually flew on in the early 90s I believe. Can anyone give me the reg o
46 Post contains links and images WhiteHatter : G-VMIA Spirit of Sir Freddie View Large View MediumPhoto © Wingnut
47 Capital146 : Although he lived to a good age, this is still a big shock and I am very much saddened by the news. Sir Freddie was a true legend in the history of Br
48 Post contains images AirEuropeUK733 : A legend, an entrepreneur and a true visionary. Truely sad news May he Rest in Peace AE733
49 Contrails : I remember arriving at LGW shortly after Skytrain went under and seeing a dozen or so Skytrain DC-10's parked on an apron there. He was indeed a visio
50 Gr8Circle : If I remember correctly, Laker Airways finally went bankrupt only in 1982 or early 1983....hope someone can provide the right answer.....
51 BCAL : Very sad news. Sir Freddie Laker was a true pioneer, a legend in British civil aviation and, as stated above, the inspiration for many of today's lead
52 Isitsafenow : So what! United, Northwest and AA was doing that in the fifties and early 60's. Its the way it was at that time..Then came the bra-burning of the ear
53 BCAL : Under Bermuda 2, Laker was designated the second British carrier between US and UK in preference over BCal. Although BCal did operate services betwee
54 DL021 : An airline pioneer who worked to make air travel more accessible to the masses, and succeeded. RIP
55 HS748 : 5th February 1982. No, it's you talking rubbish. All Laker staff lost their jobs and were not re-employed by Laker - that's the very definition of jo
56 Isitsafenow : I couldn't care less. If I have 99 problems in life to solve, that would be number 96. I have my own headaches...don't you? safe
57 BCAL : Who fired them? It was not Laker, who tried very hard to save his airline and the careers of his employees but there is no doubt there was a conspira
58 Scotty : She cant. Her doctors have advised her not to. Pity they didnt suggest that back in 1979 Bye Sir Freddie. Good guys always win and you won. Have a go
59 Mytravel330 : Indeed the aviation world has lost another pioneer of the skies and lets not underestimate what he tried to do and so nearly got it all,took on all th
60 FSPilot747 : Sounds like he unwittingly triggered the race to the bottom of this industry.
61 Post contains links BCAL : I think it would be a fitting tribute to Sir Freddie Laker for Gatwick Airport to be renamed in his honour. Not only was Laker a pioneer of low cost t
62 Boeing727flyer : Sir Freddie Laker was an Aviation pioneer and I will miss him RIP Freddie. I flew on G.BMIA A300 of Laker and I loved my whole Laker experience.
63 Post contains links Leelaw : Here's a link to the obituary in FI: http://flightinternational.com/Artic...ine+pioneer+Sir+Freddie+Laker.html
64 Keego : God bless his soul!!! a true pioneer, all our toughts go out to him, RIP Freddie.
65 Post contains links and images Richierich : I believe Laker went out of business for good in 1982. I don't know how many DC-10s they had at the time, or where they all went, but there are only a
66 Post contains images Boeing Nut : I knew there would be some that would kick a man when he's dead. And pocketing millions while your employees take massive cuts is sooooooo much bette
67 NADC10Fan : I can still remember in the immediate aftermath of the AA DC-10 disaster in Chicago pictures of Sir Freddie going on national TV here in the States, t
68 HS748 : Now you've really lost the plot.
69 BAW716 : Today is sad day in aviation with the news of the death of Sir Freddie Laker. There are many who were influential in the industry, but Sir Freddie was
70 Orion737 : I am so upset upon hearing about the death of Sir Freddie Laker. A true innovator and a real character. A gentleman too with lovley manners and a warm
71 RootsAir : How was service like in Laker ? Was there no food on board? Were there TV screens(ok on the DC 10 there tended to be only one for all the Y class)...a
72 Orion737 : I dont know much about the scheduled operations at Laker but I know the charter flights were good quality and utilised the 1-11, DC10 and A300. All th
73 Capital146 : As a tribute to Sir Freddie, I wonder if the BBC will decide to reshow the program they made in the early 1990's detailing the build-up to the launch
74 Orion737 : I would love to see that BBC programme. I missed it first time around. Sadly I doubt it will be shown. the coverage of Sir Freddie and his achievement
75 MoodyBlues : My Mum flew Laker Air at least once from FLL-LGW. Was so much better than the absolute crap you have to deal with @ MIA. Now when we fly to the mother
76 Post contains images RayChuang : I think Laker's legacy will be that he was the first to realize that the new widebody planes could be used to dramatically reduce the cost of internat
77 GDB : Laker was a true aviation pioneer, an industry man through and through, as well as being a genuine character. His Skytrain service was an innovation,
78 CalAir : I thought when VS started out in the 80's with the one 747 he was a "backpacker" airline?
79 CalAir : The photo of the DC-10 cabin en route to AGP doesnt look THAT low frills, still looks reasonable, easy to stand that for 7 or 8 hours. Is there any ch
80 BCAL : Whether or not it was true, I understand that as part of the out-of-Court settlement with BA, PanAm, TWA, BCal and others, it was agreed that Sir Fre
81 BCAL : BA, PanAm and TWA were alleged to have conspired against Laker by under cutting his fares on routes between the UK and US. These airlines all sold se
82 GVWOW : It seems he lived life in just about the fullest way! SRB's autobiography is worth a read. There is much praise of Sir Freddie and how he helped to ma
83 BCAL : Although it is out of print and very hard to get hold of a copy, The Times produced a small booklet (about 40-50 pages) covering the downfall of Laker
84 Post contains images Isitsafenow : Quote from post 83......... If Branson respected Sir Freddie so much, it would be fitting gesture if he painted one of his aircraft in the full Skytra
85 GDB : BCAL, sort of knocks the late Sir Adam's image as 'the little guy' doesn't it? To think just two years later he was railing against BA as the put upon
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