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US-Hong Kong Bilateral

Purdue Arrow From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1574 posts, RR: 8
Posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 713 times:

With all of the talk on here lately about American and/or Continental starting services to Hong Kong, I was wondering what our bilateral is like. Do we have open skies with Hong Kong, or are there just unused frequencies that a new-entrant could take advantage of?

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747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 658 times:

The last i knew which was a few months ago AA and Cathay Pacific had an application with the US DOT for codeshare between the US and Hong Kong. Approval was based on the US and Hong Kong reaching an open skies a few months ago. Those talks ended with no agreement. The application is still pending. Unless there has been some movement behind the scenes that i am not aware of no new agreement between the US and Hong Kong has been signed.

Jubilee777 From Singapore, joined May 1999, 528 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 651 times:

There is currently no open skies agreement between US and Hong Kong.

It is often criticised by the US authorities that Hong Kong is out to protect the Cathay Pacific Airways, even thou' the excuse of "not-enough-slots" used by the Hong Kong government has diminished somewhat with the shifting to CLK from KaiTak.

The oneworld alliance cooperation between Cathay and American Airlines had met with strong opposition with United Airlines, who claimed that they were unable to get the same "privileges" as a CX/AA tie-up.

The "protectionism" policy towards Cathay by the Hong Kong government will remain as the key sticking point in the bi-lateral agreements

Unless someone is able to provide us with different views ?

J777

Ryaneverest From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 632 times:

Actually, Hong Kong government is not refusing the bilateral agreement, it's because the US urges Hong Kong to give them open skies, but refuses to give Hong Kong open skies themselves. Hong Kong considers it unfair, so they just won't accept the states' issues.

I heard this from a worker at CX (ground crew).

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