BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11135 posts, RR: 61 Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2320 times:
No, it's just a higher service level and is only offered on LAX-JFK and SFO-JFK.
It's a 757 service with an upgraded cabin interior such as laptop power outlets, greater seat pitch, etc.
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Superhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 476 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2320 times:
Quoting DL4EVR (Thread starter): Is PS a separate brand (an airline within an airline) like Ted? (except, of course, PS is on the otehr end of the spectrum
No. It is just a product branding. The planes are painted in United colours.
FURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 762 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2276 times:
There are different "business oriented" announcements on P.S. flights, but thats about the only difference from a regular UA flight (other than the food/seats)
Matt
P.S.: Why do F/As nickname P.S. flights "Personal Slave", is it because of the high # of premium cabin PAX and the 1 aisle?
IceTitan447 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2232 times:
Quoting FURUREFA (Reply 4): P.S.: Why do F/As nickname P.S. flights "Personal Slave", is it because of the high # of premium cabin PAX and the 1 aisle?
Have never heard that before, it makes for an awesome flight. Would rather fly P.S. Than any other trans-con.
CTHEWORLD From Mayotte, joined Dec 2004, 478 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2222 times:
Quoting FURUREFA (Reply 4): here are different "business oriented" announcements on P.S. flights, but thats about the only difference from a regular UA flight (other than the food/seats)
Uh, the seats, the food, the entertainment, the scheduling, the gate assignments, the baggage handling the pax/fa ratio....it is more than just announcements and a little more food. I take it you haven't flown on a ps plane yet.
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22030 posts, RR: 51 Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2207 times:
Comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4671 posts, RR: 17 Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2185 times:
I flew UA p.s. SFO-JFK in December and was very impressed by the seats, food and service. Even as a big BA fan, I must say that the flight felt special. Big contrast with the outbound AA flight.
Soundsfishy From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 25 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2177 times:
Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 7): The crew must love having to hand out up to 38 hand held DVD players (12F & 26C) to customers!!
I think that's the point -- it's a bit of a sad indictment, but the UA FA's aren't used to a premium service that is supposed to be truly premium -- at a comparable tier to the international flag carriers (SQ, CX, etc.).
Superhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 476 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2152 times:
Quoting Comorin (Reply 9): I flew UA p.s. SFO-JFK in December and was very impressed by the seats, food and service. Even as a big BA fan, I must say that the flight felt special. Big contrast with the outbound AA flight.
It is certainly excellent in First and Business. Flew Business once. Seat recline is the best there is for a transcon. Excellent selection of IFE. Food is decent. I have flown Economy for a number of times. Good seat pitch, IFE is still not anything premium yet. I am a PTV fan, unless UA installs those in the Economy Plus cabin, it's not premium for me yet.
Aa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3338 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2035 times:
Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 7): The crew must love having to hand out up to 38 hand held DVD players (12F & 26C) to customers!!
DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2009 times:
I would imagine it just kind of a pain handing them out and collecting them plus handing out DVDs to go in them. I'm surprised no one has complained that p.s. doesn't have PTVs with AVOD at every seat. Where are the PTV addicts now?
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Jamake1 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 894 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1970 times:
I have never heard the term before, however it is well-known that the United Business cabin is difficult to work, with just two flight attendants. The two in business work their tails off. This contrasts with a staffing of three F/A's in business when the 767's were operated on the Premium Transcon routes. The JFK-based flight attendants do a stellar job, none-the-less.
Artsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4741 posts, RR: 43 Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1938 times:
The part that people forget about PS is that it is totally out the price window went compared to other domestic F offerings. You can fly in F from NYC-LAX on Continental for $500, but if you want to fly on PS it can run you up to $4000.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1917 times:
Quoting Artsyman (Reply 16): The part that people forget about PS is that it is totally out the price window went compared to other domestic F offerings. You can fly in F from NYC-LAX on Continental for $500, but if you want to fly on PS it can run you up to $4000.
Well, you also have the C option, which is still better than typical Domestic F but more comparable than the F. In fact, the F seats on p.s. are better than UA's international C seats. It has also helped them recapture a lot of the contract F traffic they lost to AA in 2000/2001
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RDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1314 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1872 times:
Quoting Artsyman (Reply 16): The part that people forget about PS is that it is totally out the price window went compared to other domestic F offerings. You can fly in F from NYC-LAX on Continental for $500, but if you want to fly on PS it can run you up to $4000.
All the better for UA. If they can extract that sort of revenue premium in this competitve market...they obviously made the right more with ps.
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LACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3749 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1856 times:
I love the service on the p.s. flights. I think it's been a big success and even more so when companies have to pay full Y they can send their employees on UA p.s. and they will have a much better service, with a newly remodeled cabin, complimentary meals and snacks, more leg room AA can't say anything like this anymore and they just raised the price on the BOB junk boxes to $4-.
AA has gotten really frugal and now WN has better in flight service than AA. That's a sad shame on the transcons. I recently read an article about AA's new upgraded F and C catering on the transcons and the way it was written and the AA rep interviewed, the impression I got from her tone in the interview was, it's like they have completely forgotten about those in the main cabin and they are not important to them. {this is just my impression}.
Tozairport From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 670 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1814 times:
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 13): I would imagine it just kind of a pain handing them out and collecting them plus handing out DVDs to go in them. I'm surprised no one has complained that p.s. doesn't have PTVs with AVOD at every seat.
The DVD players come in a case with the DVD's included! Movies, Sopranos, Sex in the City, etc. are all there to watch at your leisure. The F/A's just have to hand out the case and the headset. It's really very efficient. The players are great. The seats are great. The service rocks. No other domestic airline has anything like it.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1788 times:
Quoting Tozairport (Reply 20): The seats are great. The service rocks. No other domestic airline has anything like it.
Of course you say that, you get to FLY the damn thing. I just got to sit in the back of N502UA without Channel 9 (I know it wasn't your fault) and end up like 3 hours late :-P
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SparkingWave From South Korea, joined Jun 2005, 668 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1699 times:
This is quoted from this month's issue of United Hemispheres inflight magazine:
"P.S. offers the only U.S. domestic first-class, lie-flat seats, noise-reduction headsets, and Bellini champagne cocktails. To make room for a plane full of spacious seats, we did the unthinkable during a time when most of our peers in America were focusing only on reducing customer service. We "customer-ized" some Boeing 757s and actually took seats OFF the aircraft that we were using for our transcontinental flights...
... You told us that P.S. works for you. Seats on our P.S. aircraft are among the most sought after. We have corporate customers who prefer to book P.S. seats over seats on their corporate jets. That tells us we're doing something right..."
- From the article, Distinctly United.
Sounds good to me! Now only if they would import this onto their INTERcontinental flights, on 747s!
Fuel for thought,
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DL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1630 times:
Yeah..it sounds like PS is more luxurious than most of their int'l 744 flights! Do you think any other transcon carrier might be following in UA's footsteps? Delta's new long haul service sounds something like it...but considering they don't even have 3 class seating....
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25 Gman3: As a FA who works these flights constantly ( in C most of the time) I will see iI have yet to hear one complaint from the PAX. It was one of the best
26 N62NA: Yeah, now if they would only offer this to corporate customers who use the other NYC area airport where UA flies transcons to LAX and SFO...
27 DL4EVR: Yeah...honestly, if I lived equidistant from JFK and EWR, I'd definitely choose JFK instead. I'm even sure that people who live closer to EWR probabl
28 Uadc8contrail: Artsyman, please provide a link to the ual website that shows a fare of $4000 o/w OR r/t.......using apollo as a fare guide. are you assuming a --ful
29 N1120A: I just called up an LAX-JFK RT on United.com for 2/20-2/23 in F on p.s. The price is $4549.05 and fare basis is FPS
30 Uadc8contrail: N1120A, thats still about half of what artsyman is posting.....and you can not even come close to comparing the CO biz first to the UA ps first......
31 Artsyman: Uadc8contrail, your pricing compares normal UAL domestic F pricing, Not PS pricing as posted by N1120A. As someone who spent over $43,000 dollars on C
32 N1120A: Um, I agree that p.s. is more expensive but you should probably compare apples to apples. What is the price of the highest CO fare class in F. Also,
33 Artsyman: This seems like a petty discussion. The point is, the PS price FAR exceeds the price of any CO domestic F product. Even with the $2300 fare that was q
34 N1120A: Whether petty or not, I think the prices quoted by uadc8contrail are OW
35 N1120A: I will add in Artsyman's favor that for similar dates and flights, CO is about $1500 RT for A class F
36 Artsyman: Whether petty or not, I think the prices quoted by uadc8contrail are OW *** There are no $2300 domestic one-way fares on Continental unless you are re
37 DL4EVR: CO's domestic F is about the same as PS's C on teh same routes. They're pretty much the same type of service.
38 Tpaewr: There is a major error in this CO v UA issue. UA doesn't offer "F" on P.S. transcons. Buy an F fare on UA from EWR-LAX and then see what happens when
39 MaverickM11: Hrmmm...I wonder why they chose to make Ted a separate brand but not ps...hrmmmm
40 DL4EVR: Seriously...I never even got the concept of Ted. It's not like song or B6. It doesn't have any of the perks such as PTVs, great snack service, etc. I
41 BMIFlyer: I found a good fare. $1392US for a LAX-JFK-LAX round trip in Business on "p.s" for travel in 2 weeks. If i had the cash, id do it Lee
42 Artsyman: $1392US for a LAX-JFK-LAX round trip in Business on "p.s" for travel in 2 weeks *** The relevant part being in "Business" not in the premium cabin.
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