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User currently offlineLH492 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 208 posts, RR: 11
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Hey,

I´ll be flying from Europe to Hawaii via SFO next month and I wondered if I can check my bags all the way through to Hawaii or if I have to collect them at SFO and check in at the domestic terminal again.
I ask because friends of us had to collect their bags in SFO and had to check them in for the flight to Hawaii and they said it was a real pain in the butt.

And if it is possible for anyone to find out, could you tell me what the registration of my flight to SFO is going to be?
It departs at the third of march at 10:05AM (United Airlines) from LHR and arrives at 13:18PM. (It will be a 777)

Thanks in advance

[Edited 2006-02-12 17:15:36]


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User currently offlineLegacy135 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1052 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

The procedure in the US is different to the one in Europe. They request to pass customs and immigration at the first port you pass in the country. This is in your case SFO. As you need to pass customs as well, you will be in need to show your bags in SFO.
However, you will probably be checked trough. This means, you won't need to carry them a long way. Normally there is a belt just after customs, where you can drop your labeled bags.
This system sometimes makes passengers pretty nervous, specially if they need to wait in long lines and the connection is short. On the other hand you can just pick up your bags in domestic and walk out, once you arrive in Hawaii.

Have a most wonderful vacation and a save trip,

Cheers
Legacy135 Wink


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

Actually Legacy135, I think you got it backwards. LH492 is going FROM Hawai'i back to Europe. In this case, no, you will not have to reclaim your bags. They will be checked straight through to your destination and you will only have to change planes in SFO


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User currently offlineIluv747400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2365 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
Actually Legacy135, I think you got it backwards. LH492 is going FROM Hawai'i back to Europe.



Quoting LH492 (Thread starter):
I´ll be flying from Europe to Hawaii via SFO next month

He says he's going from Europe to Hawaii. Legacy135's response was exactly correct. You are right that on the way back he will not need to claim bags in SFO, but that was not the original question.


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
Actually Legacy135, I think you got it backwards. LH492 is going FROM Hawai'i back to Europe. In this case, no, you will not have to reclaim your bags. They will be checked straight through to your destination and you will only have to change planes in SFO

Dude he is flying FROM Europe to Hawaii, Legacy135 explained it all very well.

Quoting LH492 (Thread starter):
I�ll be flying from Europe to Hawaii via SFO next month

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineLH492 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 208 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

Thank you guys,

I am so excited about that trip, I never flew farther than SFO when traveling in to the U.S. and now that I know what is coming at SFO everything will be a piece of cake (hopefully Wink )

cheers,  wave 



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User currently offlineLondonlady71 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

shame I wont be at work that day to say hi, I am flying out on the 28th on that flight and wont be back till the 5th. One day I will get to say hi to one of you lot from here!

User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2254 times:

Quoting Legacy135 (Reply 1):
The procedure in the US is different to the one in Europe. They request to pass customs and immigration at the first port you pass in the country. This is in your case SFO. As you need to pass customs as well, you will be in need to show your bags in SFO.

Normally, you get off the plane, go through immigration, go to the customs area, get your bags, go through customs and then recheck your bags about 100 feet away. Last I did it, in JFK, they even had free carts, which while standard in Europe, are normally charged for in the US. I don't know if that is the case now.

Typically, it all goes very fast and cleanly.

Do NOT bring any illegal drugs with you as there is a pack of drug-sniffing dogs at US customs. Others are trained to sniff out explosives and other contraband -- like money. You may bring up to $10,000 into the US as money, traveller checks and such without declaring it. If you have a bunch of money, one of the dogs will spot you and you will be asked about it.

They may even met you at the door of the plane, so don't be surprised. Generally, you will see one or two of these dogs wandering around the baggage claim area on a leash, and you may even be asked to let them put some dope in your bag so the dog can find it. Smile, and say "oh, sure." The dogs to not bite. They are very nice and it is all a game for them. It is not a game for their handlers.

Oh, also, remember to return the dope if the dog doesn't find it! Big grin

Also do not bring any fresh fruit or food with you to Hawaii as it will be taken away from you at the airport. The same is true of California. This is due to state agriculture bands.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2245 times:

Quoting Poitin (Reply 7):
Do NOT bring any illegal drugs with you as there is a pack of drug-sniffing dogs at US customs.

Not always, I arrived twice at JFK, one time at DTW, one time at EWR and one time at SFO on international flights and there was not a single dog in the whole arrival hall.

But as Poitin already wrote, don't bring any illegal drugs, when there is a dog, he will sniff it for sure. It happened to a friend and me in ATL in June 1999. We smoked some weed before we left at BRU and the dog could still smell it when we arrived at ATL 10 hours later. What followed were two nice hours in the office of the US customs and a missed flight to SFO.

Patrick


User currently offlineLH492 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 208 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

Quote:
But as Poitin already wrote, don't bring any illegal drugs, when there is a dog, he will sniff it for sure.



lol, thanks for the advice Sabena332 but I don´t take any drugs so that should not be a problem. But I appreciate your warning  Wink
You seem to have had a lot of interesting experiences regarding aviation and it seems a lot of bad ones with LH  Wink
I always wondered about what happened that you hate them so much, I don´t really like them either but you seem to loath them.
Would be interesting to hear.

Cheers  wave 



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User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 8):
Not always, I arrived twice at JFK, one time at DTW, one time at EWR and one time at SFO on international flights and there was not a single dog in the whole arrival hall.

WRONG! They are always behind the scene and they go over EVERY bag on the conveyor belt. If the dog hits on a bag, they will suddenly show up in the arrival hall and let the dog hit on the bag again when it gets picked up. However, there are aways dogs sniffing every bag even if you don't see them. You might get away with something in a carry-on bag, but not checked luggage. The reason carry-on is pretty carefully checked as you board, but the checked luggage is only x-rayed, (except SIN where they sniff all the bags for chemicals as well) so US customs checks them here.

And as Sabena 332 said, wear clean clothes if you do something at home, and what ever you do, don't pack those clothes in your bag. Be clean.


User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Poitin:

Actually, not all bags are sniffed by dogs. There was an article in the LA Times about this awhile back. It is simply too cost prohibitive. It costs about US$20,000 to train a dog to perform this duty, and most cannot be trained for multiple scents (drugs, explsives, money, fruit, etc). Additionally, the dogs can only work for about an hour, then have to rest for about 4 hours so that they can recover their smell capabilities. The dogs are usually used at targeted times of day (when certain flights from certain countries arrive). When I returned from Guatemala, they simply put the dog on the baggage claim belt and it walked on the belt like a treadmill sniffing the bags as they came out. Pretty fun to watch.

The US Department of Agriculture keeps its own dogs at US ports of entry to sniff out fruit and other food not allowed into the US. They are always pure bread Beagles. To test the dogs officers will sometimes approach an arriving passenger and ask to place a scented cloth in their luggage or pockets to let the dog smell it out. This happened to me once and unfortuntely, the dog failed to find the cloth Sad


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Quoting Planenutz (Reply 11):
Actually, not all bags are sniffed by dogs. There was an article in the LA Times about this awhile back. It is simply too cost prohibitive. It costs about US$20,000 to train a dog to perform this duty, and most cannot be trained for multiple scents (drugs, explsives, money, fruit, etc)

Right, sure, I believe that. NOT.

If you believe the LA times, just go and get a stash and put it in your bags and come home and see what happens. The customs people are not worried about fruit, but they are sniffing for a variety of drug, money and explosives.

As for $20,000 per dog, which I think is low, what do you think a million dollars does for you? What does $100 million? Please get real. We probably spend $20,000 per second on the war on terror.

$20,000 is pocket change. EVERY BAG ENTERING THE US IS SNIFFED BY MORE THAN ONE DOG. USUALLY THREE. Those from South America, but as many as six or more, depending on risk.

As I said, go to Colombia, buy a stash, pack it in your bags and see how many years you get.

[Edited 2006-02-13 01:44:54]

User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Whoa. Settle down sparky.

If I rememebr correctly, the articel said that the average career for one of these dogs is about a year. I think most airports now use chemical tracer tecnhnology to find contraband.

In Canada, dogs are only used at passport control for hand baggage, and again, only for targeted flights and/or times of day.


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