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User currently offlineDFORCE1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

I'm trying to do some research on the Australian Airline Industry and I'm hoping I can get help here. I need to know the follow:

How is the industry doing overall? Is it plagued with financial problems like in the United States or are carriers profitable?

What airlines are based or have hubs in Australia? What mix of aircraft do they fly and where to?

Is it difficult to become a flight attendant or a customer service agent for an airline in Australia?

Besides Sydney, what are the busiest airports in terms of airline traffic?

Is there such thing as a low season for airlines in Australia given that Australia's winter is North America's summer?

Any answers would be most useful....I'm also interested in any contacts of any ANetters who work for airlines in Australia

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User currently offlineAussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

Lots of questions - here are a few answers.

Airlines (in approx order of size):

Qantas - based SYD, multiple hubs
Virgin Blue - based BNE, multiple hubs
Jetstar (part of Qantas group) - based MEL, multiple hubs
Australian Airlines (part of Qantas Group) - based CNS
Pacific Blue Australia (part of Virgin group) - based BNE
Eastern Australian Airlines (flies as Qantaslink) - based SYD
Regional Express (Rex) - based SYD (I think) - hubs in ADL, MEL, SYD
Sunstate Airlines (flies as Qantaslink) - based BNE
Skywest Airlines - based PER
Alliance Airlines (mainly charter these days) - based BNE
Ozjet (all business class) - based MEL

Plus many smaller regionals - I think I have covered all the jet operators and major regional passenger airlines

Overall, airlines are doing very well. The Qantas Group and Virgin Blue are among some of the world's most profitable airlines, though both were helped hugely post S11 by the collapse of the Ansett Australia group of airlines.

There are busier and quieter times of the year. Business drops off severely in December/January on the major trunk routes but is offset by demand on holiday routes - one example is Tasmania which generally sees many additional services over the southern summer. Due to the vastly changing climate around Australia, there is always somewhere where the weather is nice, and for the purposes of leisure traffic, the airlines can mix and match their schedules accordingly.

Finally in regards airports: Sydney is the biggest in terms of passengers, followed by Melbourne and Brisbane close behind that. Then Perth, Adelaide etc. However, aircraft movements are different - some of the major cities' general aviation airports have massive numbers of movements, such as Bankstown in Sydney.

For aircraft movements go to: http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/reports/maa.asp?

and for passenger numbers, this site is helpful:
http://www.btre.gov.au/statistics/statsindex.aspx


User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2216 times:

Well they have 4 Airlines operating now
Qantas major base SYD operates a mixed fleet domestic Business and economy
Virgin Blue Major base BNE operates 737 ngs 700/800 Low Cost Carrier
Jetstar major base MEL operates A320 Low Cost Carrier
Ozjet Major base is MEL i believe operating 737-200 Business Class only
Rex Regional Airlines operates out of ADL MEL SYD operates Saab 340 and Metro 23

All airlines seem to be doing well ,not sure on OZjet but im sure others will be able to tell you more on that..

As for busiest airports
that would be syd ,mel, bne, per ,adl

As for getting a job in the industry i would assume its like in NZ the more airlines that operate in the industry the easier it is to get a job..



"Pride of the pacific"
User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

Quoting Aussie_ (Reply 1):
Pacific Blue Australia (part of Virgin group) - based BNE

Yes this airline is owned by Virgin Blue BUT its operated out of CHC New Zealand with NZ based crews and aircraft .All the aircraft operate with New Zealand registered aircraft and as such operate to New Zealand Law not Australian so i would class this airline as a New Zealand airline



"Pride of the pacific"
User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2188 times:

Quoting Nzrich (Reply 3):
Yes this airline is owned by Virgin Blue BUT its operated out of CHC New Zealand with NZ based crews and aircraft

I'm pretty sure Aussie_ was correct - the flights operated from Australia to the Pacific Islands are operated by Australian registered aircraft with Australian based crews. I know we've got at least one Pacific Blue crew member on this website - perhaps they could shed some more light on this.

On the list of airlines mentioned by Aussie_, let me add Macair, a regional airline using Saab 340s, Metros and Caravans, who run a fairly substantial network in Queensland. Also, there is AirNorth, trading as Regional Link, who operate Brasilias out of Darwin. They owned two regional airlines in South Australia, and were planning to market all the operations as Regional Link, and grow from there. Unfortunately the South Australian operations proved to be financially troubled, and were shut down last year.

V/F

[Edited 2006-02-14 22:57:05]


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User currently onlineMr AirNZ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2002, 851 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

Nope its PB aircraft and PB crew who operate Aussie to Pacific Island flights. DJ738 would be the PB crew member. He should be able to explain more.

User currently offlineVhqpa From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 1456 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 4):
the flights operated from Australia to the Pacific Islands are operated by Australian registered aircraft with Australian based crews.

Not all the time Ive seen NZ registered DJ flights on the BNE-NAN route not sure if they were one offs or not.



Jason



"There you go ladies and gentleman we're through Mach 1 the speed of sound no bumps no bangs... CONCORDE"
User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 4):
Quoting Nzrich (Reply 3):Yes this airline is owned by Virgin Blue BUT its operated out of CHC New Zealand with NZ based crews and aircraft
I'm pretty sure Aussie_ was correct - the flights operated from Australia to the Pacific Islands are operated by Australian registered aircraft with Australian based crews. I know we've got at least one Pacific Blue crew member on this website - perhaps they could shed some more light on this.

On the list of airlines mentioned by Aussie_, let me add Macair, a regional airline using Saab 340s, Metros and Caravans, who run a fairly substantial network in Queensland. Also, there is AirNorth, trading as Regional Link, who operate Brasilias out of Darwin. They owned two regional airlines in South Australia, and were planning to market all the operations as Regional Link, and grow from there. Unfortunately the South Australian operations proved to be financially troubled, and were shut down last year.

V/F[Edited 2006-02-14 22:57:05]

No these flights are operated by NZ based crew and aircraft based in CHC also now a crew base in AKL ... My friend works for them and does the aussie-island flights .. Just like Polynesian blue is also operated by the Pacific blue's NZ based crew and aircraft

There are some Pacific Blue titled aircraft flying for virgin but thats more for advertising than anything else as they are on the Aussie aircraft register operated by Virgin Blues Aussie crews..These aircraft just operate domestic routes in Australia exc the odd flight to CHC for overhauls etc done by Air NZ etc



"Pride of the pacific"
User currently offlineVhqpa From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 1456 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

Isn't Virgin Blue unable to fly passengers outside of Australia using the "Virgin" brand or on Australian registered aircraft hence the names Pacific Blue and Poly Blue. I heared it was some condition SQ put on SRB (or) DJ when it first started up?




Jason



"There you go ladies and gentleman we're through Mach 1 the speed of sound no bumps no bangs... CONCORDE"
User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Quoting Vhqpa (Reply 8):
Isn't Virgin Blue unable to fly passengers outside of Australia using the "Virgin" brand or on Australian registered aircraft hence the names Pacific Blue and Poly Blue. I heared it was some condition SQ put on SRB (or) DJ when it first started up?

When SQ took its 49% stake in VS one of its demands were that it had the control of the Virgin name so any new airline that wants to use the name virgin had to get its permission esp for international routes ..



"Pride of the pacific"
User currently offlineDFORCE1 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 505 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

Thanks for all of the useful information everyone! I'd like to work as a flight attendant in Australia for a little bit. Can anyone shed some insight into flight attendant hiring? I believe it says on some of the airlines websites that you must be an Australian citizen or landed immigrant. Is it not possible to go to Australia on a work visa and work for an airline?

User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

Quoting DFORCE1 (Reply 10):
Is it not possible to go to Australia on a work visa and work for an airline?

To work as a flight attendant, you must have an Australian passport.


User currently offlineDJ738 From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 410 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1710 times:

Most of this has now already been posted, but just to clarify:

PacificBlue is based in CHC, New Zealand. Owned 100% by VirginBlue. Crew bases in CHC and AKL only.

We fly our four New Zealand registered 737-8FE (ZK-PBA, PBB, PBD, PBF) aircraft to VLI, NAN, RAR, TBU, APW, BNE, MEL, SYD, AKL, WLG, and CHC.

All international flights are operated by us. All domestic flights within Australia are operated by VirginBlue.

VH-VUD, VUX, VOX, VOO, VOQ are all VirginBlue aircraft flying for VirginBlue, but in our livery - simply for advertising purposes.


User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 11):

To work as a flight attendant, you must have an Australian passport.

Or a New Zealand passport will do



"Pride of the pacific"
User currently offlineUnicorn From Vatican City, joined Nov 2003, 102 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

You can also apply for a temporary resident visa.

Try looking up the websites for Qantas and Virgin Blue, both have listings for their employment policies, and links to the relevant government departments websites.


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