Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4369 posts, RR: 7 Posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 910 times:
Flywho's flights from BHX to SFB (twice weekly) and PIE (once weekly) are now on sale to start in July .... and their aircraft is a L1101-500 Tristar. Anyone know who the aircraft is coming from and also are these flights scheduled flights or charters?
I hope this finally comes off. It will be good news for BHX, SFB but especialy PIE.
Sunshine79 From United Kingdom (England), joined Jan 2006, 1552 posts, RR: 47 Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 895 times:
Jmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1284 posts, RR: 12 Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 866 times:
Interesting. I think this is the first time BHX have officially acknowledged flywho, so maybe something is actually happening this time round?
Still no on-line booking though, and I have seen no advertisements for the new service. If they want full aircraft this summer they best start sorting that out soon!
Who's L1011 they using? They don't have an AOC, so it must be an ACMI charter? Not many operators left out there, weren't there a couple registered in Sierra Leone (Air Universal?) - although they can't operate to the UK so that rules them out. One of the Portugese operators maybe?
Wjcandee From United States, joined Jun 2000, 3744 posts, RR: 19 Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 647 times:
I can't imagine putting my family on an L1011 today if it's not one being flown by ATA. I can't think of anyone else who I would trust to keep my family safe (other than, perhaps, one of the Saudi private VIP owners). Given how hard (and expensive) it is to keep these birds airworthy and competently crewed, there's something seriously unhinged about anyone who would include them in a new business plan involving passenger carriage. ATA has decades of experience working on these aircraft and I trust their remaining folks to do it right, but I have no confidence that this would be done by a startup carrier or one of the fly-by-night Third World carriers that currently fly them. It's an entirely different level of safety, and not worth any potential ticket price savings.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom (England), joined Jan 2001, 16661 posts, RR: 59 Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 611 times:
Fly who?
Your post should be relevant to the topic discussed.
Diesel1 From United Kingdom (Wales), joined Mar 2001, 1566 posts, RR: 16 Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 542 times:
Hmmm... interesting, perhaps FlyWho is really going to arrive...
Flight times in the BHX press release are a little confusing - looks like the the Saturday flight is shared between Sanford and Clearwater as departure/arrival times are identical to BHX (and also SFB/Clearwater). Suppose it could be two separate flights - if so, then two aircraft are required.
As far as operating carriers go...
Presuming it's an EC airline, then it could be GeeBee (who haven't started ops?), or BFS, or the current operator (Air Universal?) who are setting up a new Cypriot offshoot?
Which of the Portuguese airlines still have L.1011.500s?
Any USA airline that could operate these flights?
Finally... if we presume it's not a UK/USA airline, thenis it ok for non UK/USA carriers to operate (regular, non scheduled) flights to/from the UK to the USA?
Thomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 1896 posts, RR: 40 Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 530 times:
The only EU airlines still operating the L-1011 are Euroatlantic (CS-TEB), Luzair (CS-TMP) and White (CS-TMX). All of them are -500 series aircraft. As discussed in another thread, BFS never got their L-1011 registered in Austria and Gee Bee has never started L-1011 operations, they only operated Fokker 50s for some time. They all have 290-300 seat configurations though, so unless they are reconfigured that would not speak for these aircraft.
Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
Wjcandee From United States, joined Jun 2000, 3744 posts, RR: 19 Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 389 times:
Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 14): Any USA airline that could operate these flights?
Well..as I think you probably know, ATA has 4 flying L1011-500s. That's it. However, unless there is a dramatic change in the military business, those aircraft are not sufficient to handle ATA's existing and profitable military charter business. Accordingly, they would not be candidates for this service.
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