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FLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4510 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

I know they received FAA approval in 2002, but are the Kevlar ULD's in service with any airlines throughout the globe, or are they still the typical metal ULD's?

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Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

I think El Al uses them, from what I've heard.

THIS is the technology the TSA should invest in on behalf of the airlines rather than the ridiculous searches of everyone's luggage. Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

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FLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4510 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 1):
THIS is the technology the TSA should invest in on behalf of the airlines rather than the ridiculous searches of everyone's luggage. Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

It would make a world of difference...the ex-AF 741 test pictures while under pressurization as well as this link: http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...ary/Hardened_Baggage_Container.pdf show how well the blasts can be contained.

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VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4502 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

Does anyone know what sort of weight penalty there is on a Kevlar lined ULD? I understand that, along with the cost, has been a major factor in this technology not being picked up...

V/F

"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh

FLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4510 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1284 times:

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Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 3):
Does anyone know what sort of weight penalty there is on a Kevlar lined ULD? I understand that, along with the cost, has been a major factor in this technology not being picked up...

I read that they were actually lighter...340lbs for the Telair and 390lbs for the Galaxy-manufactured one.

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OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1284 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 1):
Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

While I fully agree with the TSA part of your statement, I don't think one can say that only one major airliner has been downed by a luggage bomb. There have, in fact been several over the years, many involving major airliners...

http://aviation-safety.net/database/dblist.php?Event=SEB

VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4502 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 4):
I read that they were actually lighter

Oh right, I must have been mistaken then - please ignore my post.

V/F

"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh

Rdwelch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 4):
I read that they were actually lighter...340lbs for the Telair and 390lbs for the Galaxy-manufactured one.

I heard the same thing. The word was the tare weight of the AKE's were about 20 lbs lighter.

Gus

Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1254 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 5):
There have, in fact been several over the years, many involving major airliners...

That was an interesting link. I really had no idea...

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Seanp11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

Not every airliner can carry ULDs, or can and also have bins. To me, it sounds like it would be better as a second line of protection.

LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12333 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1212 times:

While there were several cases of luggage bombs in the, including a TWA flight within Europe, ULD's really developed after PA103. Of course, the better situation is to better check out pax and their luggage before they get on the a/c rather than rely on a bomb resistant luggage container or the fact that many a/c don't use luggage containers anyway.

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