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User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

I know they received FAA approval in 2002, but are the Kevlar ULD's in service with any airlines throughout the globe, or are they still the typical metal ULD's?

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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

I think El Al uses them, from what I've heard.

THIS is the technology the TSA should invest in on behalf of the airlines rather than the ridiculous searches of everyone's luggage. Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

N


User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 1):
THIS is the technology the TSA should invest in on behalf of the airlines rather than the ridiculous searches of everyone's luggage. Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

It would make a world of difference...the ex-AF 741 test pictures while under pressurization as well as this link: http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...ary/Hardened_Baggage_Container.pdf show how well the blasts can be contained.

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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Does anyone know what sort of weight penalty there is on a Kevlar lined ULD? I understand that, along with the cost, has been a major factor in this technology not being picked up...

V/F



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User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

I rea

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 3):
Does anyone know what sort of weight penalty there is on a Kevlar lined ULD? I understand that, along with the cost, has been a major factor in this technology not being picked up...

I read that they were actually lighter...340lbs for the Telair and 390lbs for the Galaxy-manufactured one.

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 1):
Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

While I fully agree with the TSA part of your statement, I don't think one can say that only one major airliner has been downed by a luggage bomb. There have, in fact been several over the years, many involving major airliners...

http://aviation-safety.net/database/dblist.php?Event=SEB


User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 4):
I read that they were actually lighter

Oh right, I must have been mistaken then - please ignore my post.

V/F



"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh
User currently offlineRdwelch From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 4):
I read that they were actually lighter...340lbs for the Telair and 390lbs for the Galaxy-manufactured one.

I heard the same thing. The word was the tare weight of the AKE's were about 20 lbs lighter.

Gus


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1916 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 5):
There have, in fact been several over the years, many involving major airliners...

That was an interesting link. I really had no idea...

N


User currently offlineSeanp11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 1):
THIS is the technology the TSA should invest in on behalf of the airlines rather than the ridiculous searches of everyone's luggage. Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

Not every airliner can carry ULDs, or can and also have bins. To me, it sounds like it would be better as a second line of protection.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13032 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

While there were several cases of luggage bombs in the, including a TWA flight within Europe, ULD's really developed after PA103. Of course, the better situation is to better check out pax and their luggage before they get on the a/c rather than rely on a bomb resistant luggage container or the fact that many a/c don't use luggage containers anyway.

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