A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10143 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 15451 times:
That would be good news indeed and very nice to see the A359 in TN colors.
About the article written about both TN and Air Pacific, when I read it I was amazed, but I don't know anything about these two airlines. I thaught they were/are doing fairly well. So my question is: How true is this article? Are these two airlines really in that much danger to the point that they might go bankrupt? It would be a pity to see these nice and colorful liveries disappear....
AF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1041 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 14160 times:
Ia Orana all...
OK this is what one of my relatives who is an ATN chief purser told me. They were told during a training course that Air Tahiti Nui wants to add 2 A350 to its fleet, read ADD, not replace; They want to add these 2 planes and base one in PPT to fly the SYD and AKL runs and one in CDG to fly the CDG-JFK run.
Now I don't know why because the A343 fleet is not even well utilized yet what will they do with 2 spare A343 now... God knows what's going thru the minds of that airline... Mind you they changed CEO 4 times since may 2004 !
That there says it all! Unless the government can and wants to top this airline up all the time, there is no hope in that kind of environment.
So here is my Suggestion. Let them all be rolled into Air New Zealand and Qantas. For the sake of competition its probably better than NZ took over them all, however their track record isn't exactly great in that department. QF, we all know, is up to the job but i would expect them to slash routes, sell aircraft and raise prices. Obviously the solution is not quite as simple as this, but ALL these pacific islands DO NOT need their own airline.
Quoting Tundra767 (Reply 6): I think ATN needs to fovcus on making money and filling their flights first!
As much as I love flying on A340s, the move from A340s to A350s is a step in precisely that direction: making (more) money... I added the "more" because, as we all know, airlines can make money with A340s as well.
Nonetheless, the lower operating costs will save them money - then again, if they're really planning on adding those planes, instead of replacing A340s with them? What kinds of load increases do they think they'll be getting??
Nzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1527 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10986 times:
Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 17): So here is my Suggestion. Let them all be rolled into Air New Zealand and Qantas. For the sake of competition its probably better than NZ took over them all, however their track record isn't exactly great in that department. QF, we all know, is up to the job but i would expect them to slash routes, sell aircraft and raise prices. Obviously the solution is not quite as simple as this, but ALL these pacific islands DO NOT need their own airline.
Well considering QF has pulled out of flying to basically every pacific island ..
I would hesitate to say NZ would be the best management for the airline .. An airline like NZ that can pull itself from going under to making 100's of millions of dollars in a short period of time and has a history of serving the Pacific communities would be a better match for TN and Tahiti..
Aerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2779 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10763 times:
Quoting AA767400 (Reply 18): Says who...you? And what do you base your opinion on?
I say this too.
Royal Tongan = financial disaster
Air Nauru = didn't they just have their last plane confiscated in Melbourne = financial disaster
Solomon Airlines = only just scraping by, largely thanks to a domestic network that other PI nations don't have
Polynesian = financial blackhole (thought I'd vary it a little) - Pacific Blue had to be brought in to try and make this operation viable.
Air Tahiti Nui = a financial disaster. this one's gonna sink well before the A350 even hits the skies.
Air Pacific is about the only profitable South Pacific Island carrier EVER.
I've always wondered why Air Pacific or Air NZ didn't negotiate a deal with tthe island nations to create a right-sized airline serving all of Polynesia and some of Melanesia with 3 or 4 73G/8-sized aircraft to connect with NZ and Australia (and maybe Hawai'i) along with some 40-70 seat propjets to fly interisland routes (e.g. a Nuku'alofa-Apia-Nadi triangle, plus occassional connections to Rarotonga, Niue, Port Vila and Noumea.
Or maybe they have and it's all just an ego thing on the part of the respective governments. I wouldn't be surprised.
But yeah, ATN is losing WADS of cash and should probably be on death watch.