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The TU-154 And Air Bridges  
User currently offlineNADC10Fan From United States of America, joined May 2005, 165 posts, RR: 11
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

I searched but was unable to find anything on this topic ...

I have noticed in every ground-side image I've ever seen of this delightful airliner that never has she been hooked up to the terminal by air bridge, always only by ground stairs.

Why is this? Is it the case that for some reason modern air bridge are incompatible with the aircraft?

(I can't think what possible reason there is; hopefully someone can/will educate me ...  confused  )


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User currently offlineBrink777 From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2004, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3391 times:

not true back in 86 i flew AMS-SOF on balkan airlines we boarded the plane at AMS thruogh a jetway or airbridge i call it jetway

User currently offlineBrink777 From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2004, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3387 times:

also the TU134 from FBU-SOF back in 93 i boarded it through a jet bridge also at FBU it was on hemus air

[Edited 2006-02-16 07:05:00]

but its true you dont see those aircraft parked at an air bridge that often

[Edited 2006-02-16 07:07:22]

User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3007 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3336 times:

SVO boards TU-154s/134s through jetways...

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 575 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

Search harder  Wink


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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3310 times:

In Scotland, it appears that all use Air Stairs. At Edinburgh, i have never seen one at a Jetway nor at Glasgow:


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That picture shows every single aircraft that has access to a Jetway is using one, except the CO B752 which is about to depart.

At LHR, i don;t think they use Jetways either. From all of the photos i've looked at.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineYukonTrader From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 207 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3172 times:

I guess it depends on which airports the pictures were made at, and on the circumstances of the flight:

-> First and foremost, if you see pictures made at their respective home turf, you need to take into account that many CIS airports simply do not have jetties and still use the traditional combination of stairs & busses to get passengers to & from the plane.

-> Secondly, charter flights from the CIS to destinations in Turkey, Spain, the UAE or alpine airports in Europe do sometimes include long lay-overs of the aircraft at the destination - occasionally for the entire period its passengers take their break, e.g. the Ural Tu-154 that graced Salzburg airport for a good part of January 2006. Naturally, such a long stay results in the aircraft getting a remote stand and stairs instead of a jetty.

-> Finally, there are not too many CIS planes flying to the West anymore on a frequent basis. If you see Tu-154s - or other CIS airliners - still visiting Western European airports these days, chances are fat that they do either perform a government flight, or a private VIP / sports team charter, and therefore they will be handled in stands secluded from the regular gates (and jetties) of the passenger terminal.

Cheers, Lukas


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

Flown on Malev Tu154s out LHR to BUD plenty of times in the early/mid-90s using an airbridge at LHR Terminal 2.


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User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 5):
In Scotland, it appears that all use Air Stairs. At Edinburgh, i have never seen one at a Jetway nor at Glasgow:

They use the airbridges at EDI.


User currently offlineNADC10Fan From United States of America, joined May 2005, 165 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Thanks, everyone - I appreciate the responses (and education thereby)!

AJO - I looked at all the images I could pull up via the Photo Search engine, last night, and for whatever reason it simply never gave me those. I have no guesses why ... but thanks for posting those up!

Dogfighter - the very image you posted (of the -154 with airstairs at Glasgow) is the one that provoked my curiosity enough to ask.

YukonTrader - aha. That would explain considerable. I realize the first point, that a lot of the -154's normal stops within the CIS may indeed be at fields with few if any airbridges; it just occurs to me that many of the images we get of him is at some western airport like Schiphol or whatever ... and until this morning I had never caught an image of one mated up. The charter aspect makes all sorts of sense; I suppose most -154s nowadays are operated not on regular schedule but charter?

'Tis a shame it's not any kind of regular visitor here in the West and especially in the States. I would dearly love to see this beautiful aircraft for myself in person. Perhaps if we can ever make up with Cuba, one day, FLL might get some of the Russian-made visitors. (Not that I expect that anytime soon ... but it'd be nice.)

A related question: For what reason/s have airliners like the Tupolevs and Illyushins never made it into any mainstream Western airlines' fleets? They certainly seem like decent-enough aircraft both performance-wise and aesthetically, and I should imagine the purchase cost could be quite attractive. Are the economics of these aircraft then so very bad they just can't compete? I would think the current situation of only AvB simply screams for someone else to challenge and provide a product - and here's not one but two aircraft manufacturers who might ... but just can't seen to get a foot in the door. I'd love to see a discussion on this.



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User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

Your question has been debated many many times here on the forums and is available via search. Basically it comes down to a combination:

1. No spares and maintenance available readily
2. Passenger and airline unfamiliarity
3. Poor economics
4. Poor marketing
5. Inability to serially produce aircraft in large numbers
6. Simple prejudice


User currently offlineAviastar From Belarus, joined Nov 2000, 280 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2888 times:

Afay1, that another question........
 Wink


User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

Quoting ScottishLaddie (Reply 8):
They use the airbridges at EDI.

Thanks, yes. I remembered during the day that i had seen in once before.

Thanks
Mike


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