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User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2096 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 19496 times:

Air Canada are to return to Manchester this summer with their usual seasonal
YYZ-MAN-YYZ service.

YYZ - MAN

Days 1234567 AC840 2215/1005 16Jun to 24Sep
Days -2-4567 AC840 2215/1005 26Sep to 7Oct

MAN - YYZ

Days 1234567 AC841 1135/1420 17Jun to 25Sep
Days 1-3-567 AC841 1135/1420 27Sep to 8Oct

All operated by 767-200

As has been commented on before, AC do not appear to be returning to GLA this summer. I always thought that the Scotland - Canada market was slightly more buoyant than the North of England - Canada one, but obviously not.

It's good to see AC back at MAN this year; it's a shame though that they don't return to operating a year round service, even if it is DUS-MAN-YYZ on three days a week, for example.

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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 19472 times:

Excellent. It must do quite well, as I seem to recall it was often upgraded to a 763 last year.


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User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 19420 times:

Quoting MainMAN (Thread starter):
I always thought that the Scotland - Canada market was slightly more buoyant than the North of England - Canada one, but obviously not.

Yep - so did I. But with Zoom offering a far more comprehensive service anf FlyGlobespan due to come on stream, soon, the overall service will improve substantially. AC only served YYZ and bowed out of YVR and YYC services from GLA a long time ago. So its thanks and farewell.


User currently offlineGroobster From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 19373 times:

Etihad Daily to Man from March 26th?
http://www.ameinfo.com/78019.html



Next flights: MAN-IST-AUH-MAN
User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2096 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 19368 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1):
Excellent. It must do quite well, as I seem to recall it was often upgraded to a 763 last year.

It must make money for them in the peak season. Eastern Canada is a very seasonal destination for Brits, so I wonder how well AC and BA do from LHR in the winter (bearing in mind that their services must be full of Midlanders, Northerners and Scots connecting on bmi!)

The AC timetable says it's operated by a 762, probably only as a rough guide.

Quoting Scotty (Reply 2):
But with Zoom offering a far more comprehensive service anf FlyGlobespan due to come on stream, soon, the overall service will improve substantially. AC only served YYZ and bowed out of YVR and YYC services from GLA a long time ago. So its thanks and farewell.

Shame for GLA. I remember when NW and AC were the feathers in its cap.

Are FlyGlobespan due to operated their own flights to YYZ or is this a Globespan/Air Transat service?


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 19353 times:

Quoting Groobster (Reply 3):
Etihad Daily to Man from March 26th?
http://www.ameinfo.com/78019.html

Well, this time they show in the amadeus system so can actually booked! Though they aren't on the EY website yet.



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User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 19266 times:

Quoting MainMAN (Thread starter):
Air Canada are to return to Manchester this summer with their usual seasonal
YYZ-MAN-YYZ service.

Good news, could be an easy way for me to non-rev to Canada this summer. Would a reduced schedule during the winter not work with the demand for winter sports in canada?

Glad to see the EY saga has finally been sorted out. Looks like it's going to be a busy summer at MAN. Is the Belavia service going to be returning this summer?

Matt


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 19092 times:

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 4):
Are FlyGlobespan due to operated their own flights to YYZ or is this a Globespan/Air Transat service?

This summer the flights are with Air Transat. However in the future GSM may well take the flights 'in house' and operate them themselves



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User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 19056 times:

Can we please stick to news about Manchester, thanks!

User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2096 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 18990 times:

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 6):
Good news, could be an easy way for me to non-rev to Canada this summer. Would a reduced schedule during the winter not work with the demand for winter sports in canada?

Glad to see the EY saga has finally been sorted out. Looks like it's going to be a busy summer at MAN. Is the Belavia service going to be returning this summer?

Winter sports are pretty well catered for with flights to the west (Calgary and Vancouver). Also YVR also possibly attracts VFR traffic year round due to its more temperate climate.

There's nothing on the Belavia website to suggest they're operating to MAN this year, because they haven't got any further than winter 05/06 schedules. I'd be surprised if they did come back.

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 9):
Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 8):
Can we please stick to news about Manchester, thanks!

Thats NEWS Gayrugbyman, not rumours.

Feel free to post some!


User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 18990 times:

What's with the sudden interest in opening up french regional routes from MAN? First Air Wales to Rennes 4 times a week, now Aer Arann 3 times a week to a place i've never heard of before, Angers! I'd have thought we would have seen BE open up the french regional market, now 6G or RE!

Matt


User currently offlineBilly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 18990 times:

MANmatt,

Where else do you stick an ATR and make money? This is more to do with running out of markets than a strategy.


User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 18990 times:

Quoting Billy (Reply 12):
This is more to do with running out of markets than a strategy

Seems a bit like a bmi strategy to me! Just opening up routes here, there and everywhere without any kind of network. Still, i wish them the best of luck.


User currently offlineBilly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 18990 times:

You are right. RE bumps into FR, EI or BE. It is looking for international markets that are small enough to deter competition, that would use an ATR, but large enough to support an ATR. Also, there is no low-cost jet competition (I think).

So if you have any ideas that fit the bill, I am sure RE would like to hear from you.


User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 18986 times:

Quoting Billy (Reply 14):
So if you have any ideas that fit the bill, I am sure RE would like to hear from you

Well I don't think I could recommend a route, but im sure Pe@rson knows some routes that would suite the ATR!! Big grin


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2096 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 18975 times:

6G and RE seem to be getting in on the regional French market before BE invariably will, from MAN. I don't know how much demand there is for services to Rennes and Angers, but the bulk of 2nd home-owners have their properties in Brittany and the Loire Valley.....very vaguely the northwestern chunk of France (because it's cheaper than warmer places au sud)

France is served well from STN, BHX and SOU, so good look to them.




Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 8):
Can we please stick to news about Manchester, thanks!

Oh, the irony!  Smile


User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 18847 times:

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 9):
Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 8):
Can we please stick to news about Manchester, thanks!

Thats NEWS Gayrugbyman, not rumours

LOL! Well doen 7LBAC111. GayrubgyMAN does have 'reliable' sources, just can never back them up.

Mark



Retrofitted Blended Winglets - The Future Is On The Wing
User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 18763 times:

And why should I? I would never put anyone;s professional position in jeopady by naming a source in person, so there!

I think alot of it is kealousy..you boys all fancy me really.


User currently offline7LBAC111 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 18737 times:

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 18):
I think alot of it is kealousy..you boys all fancy me really

I'm not familiar with the term kealousy. Is it like a funky type of jealousy?
Either way, rather than bragging about how fanciable you are, reveal your sources.

Few of us accept the following (hypothetical) type 'sources':-

Quote:
... the bloke speaking to Brian from Aviance was telling me about Varig's new service from MAN when I met him in the corridor behind checkin t'other day!"

Nor do we care about new catering opportunities in Terminal 3.

7L



Debate is what you put on de hook when you want to catch de fish.
User currently offlineBilly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 18681 times:

Keeping it real, the Air China Cargo 74F looks certain for a May start.

User currently offlineSAS767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 411 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 18438 times:

Sounds good - the Air China Cargo 74F is more or less official confirmed here in Copenhagen...

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 18414 times:

MAN-Rennes is no longer bookable on the air wales website


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User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 18410 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 22):
MAN-Rennes is no longer bookable on the air wales website

The curse of Planetalk strikes again!



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User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18222 times:

Monarch Schedule announce new Manchester to Arrecife service for winter 06/07.

User currently offlineLxlgu From South Africa, joined Sep 2000, 1085 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 18206 times:

Hi all!

Effective 5 June to 4 Sep BELAVIA
will operate very Monday with a 735

B2 853 MSQ MAN 0930/1055
B2 854 MAN MSQ 1155/1700

Cheers!
Tony


25 ScottieDog : FLYBE Announce Manchester/Norwich New service announced today. Effective 25th May with double daily flights operated by Norwich based Dash-8-400. Scot
26 Jetset7E7 : Glad to see MAN getting ACE with ZB Commences 29 Oct 2006 ZB626/627 Departs 1430 Arrives 2355 Thurs + Sun Yet another kick in the teeth for Eastern,
27 Mhodgson : Have T3 actually dropped MAN-STN though?
28 GLAGAZ : flyGlobespan announce MAN-CPT starting this Winter. 3x weekly !! Totally random !! Gaz
29 MAAN : Travel Shitheap Direct's MAN-SFB service that was *ahem* so reliable last year is changing from 2x on Thu-Fri-Sat-Sun to 1x daily on five days, not qu
30 7LBAC111 : Can't see anything on their website Gaz. Have you a source for this one? I think they have. It's no longer listed in the GDS. 7L
31 Post contains links GLAGAZ : www.flyglobespan.com Gaz
32 Concorde001 : GLAGAZ is right - you can book flights between MAN-CPT on their website! I'm suprised - didn't see it coming! Thought the flights seem very expensive!
33 7LBAC111 : Strange - no announcement or anything. Just an added destination in their drop down menus'.
34 Mhodgson : Perhaps GSM will be selling them as charter flights to other operators/tour operators?
35 Jetset7E7 : Yes they have, the aircraft is now based at LBA, and ferries in on a Sunday to operate the INV service, and ferries back out again after the route, w
36 GayrugbyMAN : Remember the cock-up that was AV8?! Well, let;s just see flyGlobespan do better...somehow I doubt it. I can;t see MAN being able to support a three ti
37 Humberside : Im sure it can do well if tour operators buy a large portion of seats, though the route will certainly be isolated from the rest of the GSM route net
38 Mhodgson : I suspect that was the cockup that led to the failure of AV8 - who wants to travel via DUB and PMI when you can make one stop at LHR/CDG/AMS/FRA?
39 ScottieDog : It will be interesting to see how the two airlines compete from Manchester. I think you might find that Eastern have other thoughts of where their ai
40 GayrugbyMAN : T3 news: Zoom In has closed in arrivals and will re-open as an Alpha retail otlet. The hairdressers next door has also closed and will be turned in to
41 7LBAC111 : On the contrary JNB and CPT have huge potential from MAN. BMI were expected to start daily services down there but decided to go to LHR instead (with
42 GayrugbyMAN : But they still don;t have approval to run the route from the SA authorities, right? Hmmm...Hardly booking with confidence if that's the case!
43 DavidT : Hi All Having flown MAN-HEL-MAN last week, I was just wondering why AY's Embraer 170's have to park in that funny little stand seemingly in the middle
44 7LBAC111 : Check out the official thread Gayrugbybloke, and you'll see the reasons why.
45 Jetset7E7 : Its because BA don't have a towbar for the Embraer 170. There are only two towbars on the airport, we (Swissport) have one for the AZ, and Servisair
46 David_itl : Useless info: SAS just picked up the handing contract for City Airline. A little rumour to play with: now MH is refocusing on going after leisure pax
47 MANmatt : Not useless info for me! More contracts are certainly welcome at SAS! lol New route: Manchester to Bergen, twice a week- thursdays and sundays, with
48 MainMAN : Thanks for that info. It's all good, the best bits of news are the totally unexpected ones. The latter sounds perfect for the short-break market, hop
49 Humberside : Not a surprising move. SAS will also codeshare on all City Airline routes, including MAN
50 Post contains images Speedbird19 : Watch this space for new T3 route/s...
51 Humberside : Do you know any approxiamete dates for any announcements that you could share?
52 Jetset7E7 : Yes I noticed today and yesterday the City Airline being handled by Ringway, seen the SAS ops car near it, weird how we never hear of these handling
53 ScottieDog : Unfortunately confidentiality prevents giving that info at the present time. Scottiedog
54 MainMAN : Probably Dundee, and possibly Newcastle! (OK, just a wild guess)
55 Mhodgson : LDY, perhaps?
56 Jetset7E7 : Can't see the point in Newcastle, its not that far away. Londonderry, Dundee could be a possiblity. Wick? Mark
57 GayrugbyMAN : You cant get from Manchester to Newcastle by any form of public transport in less tan 3 hours, so I can totally see the point of an air service betwee
58 Post contains images Capital146 : My money's on MAN-IOM, not enough competition on that route. NCL was served in the past by Gill Airways with Shorts 360's. Let's also not forget that
59 GayrugbyMAN : TravelCity Direct 747 ops move to T2 this summer.
60 Humberside : Could any restart of MAN-DND have any connection with the possible transfer of DND to HIAL whichis presently under negociation?
61 Ant72LBA : Any connection to Newcastle would get my vote - both from a personal point of view, the in-laws live up there, and business, the firm I work for has o
62 GayrugbyMAN : Is Singapore about to add an extension to its Manchester service? There has been some talk recently of the airline extending SIN - MAN - IAD. Would ma
63 MainMAN : It would seem to make sense, as c.70% of SIA passengers connecting at LHR for the US travel onwards to IAD.
64 GayrugbyMAN : Lets hope its on the cards soon then!
65 Jetset7E7 : Swissport confirms handling contract with Etihad! I'm impressed by my employers attracting a big name! So much for SAS having UK handling rights! Mark
66 MANmatt : I know, we kinda expected them to sign with you. Apparently they have done it to annoy their best friend Emirates. Guess we will have to wait and see
67 Jetset7E7 : Yeh thats what I thought, as we do Emirates check in, not ramp, but Etihad is a full contract. As Ringway already do the ramp for Emirates, it could m
68 Col : This would also make sense as many of us are getting sick of those cramped 757's being used to MAN. They will probably need a larger aircraft as the
69 MANmatt : Wel that's what has been mentioned. As the Ringway contract is a new one they will tell them to sort it out and possilbly give us the EK contract. Wo
70 Jetset7E7 : EK to move over to T2 soon. If Emirates decide to move then yes it would be the shortest between an airline and handling agent, but we are holding out
71 MANmatt : Well there's a surprise! Aviance actually gaining a contract, albeit a very small contract at that! They are apparently losing some contract's in t2
72 GayrugbyMAN : Emirates only have three weeks or so left at T1, they move to T2 at the beginning of the summer scheds, and rumour has it they might also announce a D
73 Pieinthesky : SQ could do with a bigger a/c into MAN now never mind waiting for the 773ER's. My 3 inbound flights from SIN this year have had to come through either
74 GayrugbyMAN : Did they??!! Considering the EK arrive(s)/(d) at 1115 in the winter and 1215 in the summer, and the BD IAD left at 1215 too, there was hardly no onne
75 Boysteve : I'm sorry but I can't see much chance of this. The train takes slightly under 3 hours, direct trains run hourly and you can have 2 trains per hour if
76 Jetset7E7 : I'm off work now till Monday, so I won't be, hope you enjoy it, heard good things about ZB's new product. Mark
77 Pieinthesky : Apparently so.
78 DptMAN : Etihad Service to Abu Dhabi now on sale. Schedules as follows:- Daily EY313 ABU > MAN Dept 2.10 Arrive 6.45 EY314 MAN > ABU Dept 9.40 Arrive 20.00 Man
79 GayrugbyMAN : I reckon we'll hear something very soon from SQ ....would be a great coup for MAN if they get a SQ USA connection!
80 Billy : If you fancy an exotic way to new York , wait for the Biman service that will be coming to MAN. DC-10s and all. Application to CAA lodged by BG for th
81 HS748 : AM, PM, or 24 hour clock? Make your mind up!
82 7LBAC111 : Nice! Havent flown a DC10 since LGW-IAH with CO back in 94.
83 David_itl : Really? They did operate 3 "trial" services back in 1994, always seemed to apply for slots and never proceeded with services and I'm pretty sure that
84 DptMAN : I thought this was implied in a 24 hour clock. Apologies. dptMAN
85 MainMAN : Maybe given last year's rule changes regarding 5th freedom and regional airports, they might re-consider (not JFK, but IAD). Excellent. Very sizeable
86 Speedbird19 : Same here, only bad thing is we've gotta wear the Ethiad uniform at check in which aint good lol
87 Post contains images Boysteve : It is ............
88 GayrugbyMAN : So are BG to axe the Brussels New York service, and replace it with a MAN JFK?
89 Post contains images MainMAN : Ahhh, nobody knows
90 GayrugbyMAN : Had a few interesting chats today about Biman's possible arrival at MAN...seems they are looking for accommodation at Terminal 1.
91 BA757 : Excuse me if there was already a thread on it already somewhere on a.net, but what was the reason for the AMS-PHL US 767 divert at the weekend? Adam
92 9V-SPI : Just had a nosey on EK's website and from the 29th October 2006 both EK services from Manchester will be operating with 77W equipment daily rather tha
93 Post contains images Mhodgson : Hands up if you remeber the days of a single A330 per day Then 2x A330 Then 3x A330 rumoured Then 1x 772, 1x A330 Then 1x 773ER, 1x A330 Next 2x 773ER
94 Post contains images Capital146 : Hands up if you remember the 4 x weekly A310 service? (circ 1993!)
95 MainMAN : No problem there Capital146, if I cast my addled excuse for a mind back, I can remember Gulf Air VC-10s at LHR, vaguely. The original EK flights oper
96 Post contains images Gkirk : And the days of A300B4-600R flights via Zurich. P.S. 2 x Daily AA MAN-ORD flights operated by MD11 and B767-300ER a/c [Edited 2006-03-06 21:42:25]
97 MainMAN : Do you mean 2 x Daily about to be launched, or are you talking about that summer when they did operate twice daily? It would seem prudent, given that
98 Speedbird19 : I saw that going on stand when i was boardin the Cyprus maybe it was a medical emergency or somethin? it was on the T1 flight screens gated 210 on T2
99 David_itl : Pretty sure it was around 2nd Nov 1990 when the first EK service arrived from FRA - twice weekly to begin with. Hands up all those who have seen a Gu
100 BA757 : Yes I guess a medical would make sense. Cheers! Adam
101 GayrugbyMAN : THe Biman schedule for MAn is as follows: BG11 DAC - MAN arrives 1715 BG11 MAN - JFK dep 1846 BG12 JFK - MAN arr 1045 BG12 MAN - DAC dep 1215 Opeartin
102 GayrugbyMAN : Air Scotland (Greece Airways) are to open a new ofice at Manchester. As advertised in NW Jobs, they are looking for a duty manager and other support s
103 MainMAN : Does anyone know when Portugalia ceased ops between LIS/OPO and MAN? PG must be one of the least marketed airlines I've ever come across. It seems rat
104 ScottieDog : End of the winter schedule as far as I am aware, so that means 25th March. I think they do not operate on a Saturday, so the last flight would be on
105 David_itl : Scottie, 99.9% certain it was 24th Feb when NI left us - the Servisair rep did a "formal" goodbye to the last service when NI601 gave it off chocks ti
106 Speedbird19 : You're right I heard the people who were checkin in the last ever flight talkin about it around that date, but yeah, defo dont operate into MAN now l
107 Post contains images Groobster : When is it due to start? I fancy a week in NYC at some point and there may be a bargain to be had on this flight
108 GayrugbyMAN : The way that Biman DC10 goes tech, you might end up staying a month!! Hehehe Word is it is to start on 01 April.
109 Demoose : Dunno if this has already been mentioned but in this months airport staff magazine it says that Singapore Airlines is to go daily non-stop later this
110 Col : SQ, I guess it was only a matter of time anyway. The loads seem to justify growing into the 773ER's by next year. I notice that the latest Stats on th
111 Demoose : Growth for the next year is now forecast to be around 5%. Aircraft movements are actually down on last year, although passenger numbers are up.
112 Col : Demoose, Thanks for growth info. I am a little surprised at 5% though. The whole of last year was 5.3%, with poor numbers last couple months and April
113 MainMAN : I agree that 5% sounds ambitious. However, there is a healthy selection of new services starting (DL, EH and BE to various domestic points). Maybe CX
114 GayrugbyMAN : Is it true that flyBE named their MAN - BHD route 'the George Best route' today?
115 Jetset7E7 : Dash 8-Q400 G-JECL has been renamed 'The George Best', even though I've heard it is only a temporey sticker on the aircraft, for a short while. I'll h
116 GayrugbyMAN : With the visa requirement having being recently lifted on Croatians visiting the UK, perhaps MAN will see a scheduled flight to Zagreb in the not too
117 Post contains images Speedbird19 : For the meantime AZ will have to do
118 Trekster : I saw her push back last nite, but could not see the sticker at all. I did not know which one it was, but saw no stickers on her
119 Post contains images Demoose : It does have a sticker on it... Not the best picture, but shows it atleast. Mark
120 GayrugbyMAN : The whole thing looks terribly naff if you as me. Saw Eastern's new aircraft today, looked great.
121 Jetset7E7 : G-MAJT? Its got to be one of the worst hybrids I've ever seen, up close its got overspray everywhere. More contract news: Servisair lose yet another
122 Speedbird19 : It looks worse now they've put Eastern titles on it too, looks so tacky, needs a good paint job!
123 GayrugbyMAN : Aren;t there to be some terminal moves by a few airlines this summer? We already know about BD?WW, but aren;t some smaller airlines moving to T1 from
124 Speedbird19 : There's EK in T2 from the 26th of this month, no other moves as far as i'm aware of.
125 GayrugbyMAN : ANd EK are fuming as have been told that on the lunchtime service they will probably have to park remotely on weekdays!
126 Crosswind : Rubbish! Flights at T2 are planned to park remotely by apron control on a rotating basis so the same flights/airlines do not get hit every day. Emira
127 Candid76 : Possibly to do with taxiway repair work. The 773ER can only fit onto certain stands, some of which are affected by temporary taxiway repair works.
128 Jetset7E7 : The 77W can only park on 202, and the pushback is abeam stand 208 to face south. We have new pushback producedures, due to the temporary taxiway repa
129 GayrugbyMAN : Shame EK dont arrive in the afternoon, then! Let;s just remember that EK have NEVER had to park remotely at either T1, or T3 when they operated from t
130 Post contains images Speedbird19 : I very much doubt it! Most of the inbound pax are British so they just go straight through
131 GayrugbyMAN : HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Are you a complete buffoon?! 450 returning on a PIA, the majority going through the EU control, add to that a handful of charters, go
132 Mhodgson : I don't think it is as bad as you make out - I flew into T2 on the Sunday MH12 flight from KUL, which was full. We arrived alongside a BY763 and a fe
133 Gkirk : I read somewhere that MH will be dropping MAN in May
134 Billy : I have noticed a considerable decline in the processing times for getting through T2 immigration (even T1 is growing worse). Arriving on the last AF o
135 Speedbird19 : No you're just being sceptical.
136 GayrugbyMAN : I don;t see MH pulling out of MAN, the cargo is too lucrative. Though we may see it operae via somewhere else in Europe or the Middle East.
137 Humberside : MH Passenger may leave MAN. If cargo is lucrative, MH may only operate B747F's to MAN, like Cathay Pacific
138 Billy : Gayrugbyman, Cargo revenue alone is not a reasonto keep a passenger operation in a city. MAS is operating at a loss because it is taking people to Oz
139 ScottieDog : Did MH not pull their cargo operation about 6 months ago? I certainly do not remember seeing it for many a month. ScottieDog
140 Jetset7E7 : I believe it was only a summer thing with Air Atlanta. MH are due to finish at MAN as of 1st May, Malyasian are doing well at MAN, but they are in he
141 GayrugbyMAN : Well, hopefullt TG/CX/CA or even GA might step in and fill the gap left by MH.
142 Humberside : I believe Thai have said before they plan to come to MAN. Would replace MH nicely as a second carrier to South East Asia. I doubt GA will come to MAN
143 Post contains images Azza40 : not sure whether this has been mentioned on here yet, as i really could not be bothered reading 142 replies! but, VS will be starting another 744 flig
144 Boysteve : I think this is contradicted on EK's website where it states that Emirates will operate from Gate 202 with direct lounge access. They wouldn't have m
145 GayrugbyMAN : I think you'll find the trend at MAN is to put airlines in the same alliances in the same terminal: T1 Star Alliance T2 SkyTeam T3 oneworld
146 Post contains images Trekster : I cant belive what i saw at MAN when i was there on Friday Nite. WHAT ARE bmi doing at BA Check in desks. They have nicked em. Now our First/Business
147 Mhodgson : Explains BD's move to T3, then! Does this mean SQ will swap as well, or is most of their traffic ex-MAN, thus not requiring the connection availabili
148 Ryan h : Pity Malaysian are cutting MAN. Makes it harder to get there from Australia. When I was there last year both flights were full so I was surprised to h
149 GayrugbyMAN : Please remember, there has been NO official annoucement by Manchester AIrport or Malkaysia Airlines, regarding quitting MAN. I liaise with the staff a
150 Groobster : Lets hope so, it would be such a shame to lose them once again.
151 Boysteve : Why is BMI moving to T3 if this is the case? I agree that there has been no official announcemnet but you cannot book direct flights ex-Manchester on
152 Post contains links and images Jetset7E7 : I've heard from the MH station manager at MAN via their ground handler that the schedule will end as of May 1st, so there's your confirmation if you
153 MainMAN : It think it says more about their own mis-management than MAN. Whenever I've read news reports about their financial restucturing, I get the impressi
154 Speedbird19 : Most people I've spoken to at work are aware of it too. Also heard today that G-PIDS is rumoured to be adding to Jet2's growing 757 collection, dunno
155 Myt332 : When I ran into Demoose a few weeks ago he was telling me that MYT are supposed to be utilising 2x B757's in their summer schedule. I thought if corre
156 BDKLEZ : A question for all you Manchester folks? Are BA/Citiexpress/Connect (or whatever they're called this week) pulling off the MAN-AMS route from the star
157 Demoose : The provisional timetable showed this, however they have now dropped back down to one 757 for the summer. What the future holds for G-PIDS who knows?
158 Mhodgson : They pulled it at the beginning or end of LAST summer (IIRC).
159 BDKLEZ : Jeez, I'm on the ball aren't I? I'm a LON airports person, but needed to check MAN for this once and found it quite a surprise that I couldn't book.
160 Candid76 : There have been confusing messages coming out of MH. The airline's chief apparently conceded that KUL could not compete for high yield traffic with ot
161 GayrugbyMAN : Biman Bangladesh are to now use T2, insread of T1, as the facilities are better at T2 for the airside transit traffic.
162 ZKOJH : Well im glad theres still some movment up at MAN !! well im flying with SQ in December to Syd and then home to NZ for xmas, so can't wait for that one
163 Demoose : The NZ is interesting, not the first time i've heard them mentioned at MAN. Interesting one to keep an eye on in the long term, it would certainly be
164 Zkojh : one of the things holding NZ back is that our UK crew are all based in and around LHR, for the main reason being thats our european 'hub' at the momen
165 Zkpilot : Exciting times... I've heard rumours and those would seem like the likely candidates...
166 GayrugbyMAN : BD's long-haul routes move to Terminal 3 Manchester on 1st June.
167 Groobster : Pretty much everything discussed here recently has been confirmed in MANs latest email newsletter, but no mention of Binman... [Edited 2006-03-24 16:5
168 DptMAN : Any News on Bimans Dhaka-Manchester Service. Will there be a connection onto JFK? dptMAN
169 ScottieDog : The Manchester service is as a stop on the Dacca/New York route. The airline is transferring it's current service that use to operate via Brussels. O
170 GayrugbyMAN : Why aren't BMI Baby using the airbridges at T3? They seem to be using tw lots of steps instead, surely if this is the case, they might as well park re
171 Speedbird19 : Probably because its cheaper! lol
172 Mhodgson : If this is going to be the long-term case, then it seems utterly ridiculous that WW have been allowed to use T3! Surely there are more deserving airl
173 StarGoldLHR : Can an A330 reach that range ?
174 MainMAN : Aren't they? I just saw a WW 737 at T3, but didn't notice if it was using an airbridge. Yes![Edited 2006-03-28 04:17:17]
175 GayrugbyMAN : Not a single WW has used an airbridge at T3, apparently because it takes too long to load and unload. Also, I was wondering...what's to stop WW passen
176 Post contains images MainMAN : Good point. This means that the airbridges are being used by GB Airways, AA, AY and BA to JFK, and that's all. I'm assuming that RJs and 145s don't u
177 Mhodgson : I think they should have allowed a few non-aligned airlines to used it - Turkish, Monarch Scheduled etc. Ones which will use the airbridges! Baby norm
178 ScottieDog : You appear to have forgotten that stands 6, 8 and 10 have air bridges.
179 Speedbird19 : BD will be moving to T3, i think its in the next month or so, cause Etihad are having those desks, we're using the old Emirates ones for the moment t
180 Billy : Lots more redundancies issued yesterday by MAplc. Slimming the company by about 100.
181 MANYQB : Sorry for those involved in the redundancies... I don't think this is a good sign for the assessment I have with them next week then...
182 GayrugbyMAN : Etihad service carried 34 passengers in to Manchester today, day 2 of their new service. Has anyone seen an advertisement on the local press or heard
183 Myt332 : Do taxi's in EY colours and posters on Deansgate and Princess Road count?
184 Jetset7E7 : When they did park on stand 6, 8 or 10, they used to stop short of the line, so steps can be placed. The main reason for not using airbridges is that
185 Gkirk : I hear BWIA are to drop their MAN flights
186 MainMAN : That wouldn't surprise me at all. BWIA isn't a profitable airline. I don't think that services to BFS and PIK lasted very long either.
187 Post contains images Speedbird19 : From stories I've heard they take after AZ and loose bags a lot too
188 GayrugbyMAN : DOh dear, not looking too bringht for MAN at the moment...let;s look at the evidence: Routes axed n last two years: Vebice BA/LS Verona BA Pisa BA Cop
189 Humberside : I wouldnt get too worried about this one especially, since Air Canada provided a direct replacement
190 MainMAN : I wouldn't worry about it too much GRM. Most of them led to over-capacity, especially at a time when the competition over at LPL has expanded rapidly,
191 GayrugbyMAN : I agree totally, it seems MAN management might be to blame for all this. It's time to take a step back and reflect. Manchester now needs to concentrat
192 MainMAN : Ultimately it's a mixture of MAN management, the cost of fuel, and the inability of lots of carriers to turn a regular profit. Agreed, MAN already is
193 Shabaz : Now that we have EK-QR-EY who's next...GF ?
194 GayrugbyMAN : I don;t think we'll see GF at MAN imminently, I would envisage North African and Near East carriers to come on board, services to Amman, Beirut, Cairo
195 Billy : Gayrugbyman, Although it sounds interesting to reel a list of countries off, the Manchester market to many of these is tiny. About 2,000 people went f
196 David_itl : Is First Choice doing charters to Korea or is today's FCA61 listed on Ceefax arrivals an anomaly as it shows it arriving from Incheon? I've looked on
197 Post contains images Crosswind : It's G-OOBA returning from another round the world trip that ended in Seoul. The aircraft is returing from Incheon via Tashkent and Istanbul, and onc
198 GayrugbyMAN : What's being built between gates 17 and 18?
199 Jetset7E7 : You mean at gate 18 and 41, its an extenstion of the non BA T3 baggage sorting area, so that when bmi move over their is enough room to handle the bi
200 Galleyhag : Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 170): Why aren't BMI Baby using the airbridges at T3? They seem to be using tw lots of steps instead, surely if this is the
201 GayrugbyMAN : Air Scotland did VERY well on their inaugural Barcelona flight today.....212 on the inbound this evening! Isn;t that nearly full for their 757? But wh
202 Humberside : I think the flights are for Sunways Holidays. Will be designed to meet their requirements
203 Mhodgson : Good to hear - I was skeptical of the route when first announced!
204 GayrugbyMAN : Are Sunways a cruise company?
205 MainMAN : They do everything, from cruises, to Lapland to Ski Bulgaria, with everything in between
206 BA : MEA is considering Manchester as a possible new European destination in the future.
207 Humberside : Interesting. Would they be interested in a deal with the likes of BD, AA, CO, US and/or DL for onward connections to the US or are they after local t
208 Boysteve : I was at the viewing park earlier today when around 12 noon PK7112 was given clearance to land. I could find no mention of such a flight in the schedu
209 GLAGAZ : 233 seats. Gaz
210 BA : Most probably yes. MEA usually strikes interline agreements with various airlines at the European destinations they serve. This is definitely the cas
211 Mhodgson : Seems like a lot of westbound -LR flights are stopping over at the moment - perhaps the en-route winds are causing problems?
212 ScottieDog : With thanks to Manchesterspotters for the following very full explaination of the PIA 777LR conundrum..... "The paranoid Americans still rate Pakistan
213 Myt332 : And yet they send Condoleeza Rice to Liverpool? The mind boggles!
214 Post contains images Boysteve : lol
215 GayrugbyMAN : Does anyone know if the Air Berlin Stansted, Jet2 EDI & LGWs, BE BHD etc are now ARRIVING as well as departing from T1?
216 Mhodgson : Not according to the MAN website arrivals
217 GayrugbyMAN : Funny as thought that was the whole pojnt of that new baggage belt no.7 at T1. It's a mad situation having an airline use one terminal for deps and an
218 Post contains links GayrugbyMAN : http://www.aviationjobsearch.com/emp...yer.asp?employerid=216&vacid=43440 Indications of a possible new service maybe? Or do they need to fill their q
219 Myt332 : You sure bring up some hard hitting points. Bit of a tangent but I heard on Radio1 today a shout out from Coxy for 'the manchester gay rugby team' wh
220 Post contains links and images GayrugbyMAN : http://www.villagespartans.co.uk/mvsrufc/index.html Not me, but here are the boys in all their glory.  [Edited 2006-04-02 18:14:56]
221 Humberside : Probably just a recruitment day, since it looks like its for the airline's Bahrain base. For example I think EK held a similar day at NCL
222 Myt332 : You shouldn't have. Really.
223 RobTrent : I do not use manchester much, but I agree T1 is in need of a makeover. Regards R
224 MainMAN : And....... For a terminal that was originally opened in 1962 (?), there's nothing much wrong with T1 that a bit - ok......quite a lot of remodelling
225 Jetset7E7 : These are all domestic arrivals, so will arrive at T3 domestic arrivals. The new baggage belt number 7, is for expansion in T1, when you say an airli
226 Mhodgson : I don't think T1 is too bad - It is only really an external makeover that is needed, as the interior is spacious and quite airy, with plenty of shops
227 GayrugbyMAN : Oh PER-LEEEEEEEASE!! Spacious and airy??!! I don't think so! The check-in area cannot cope, neither can the security area at departures....the shoppin
228 GayrugbyMAN : Jetset7E7, you are wrong. The new baggage belt 7 has been specifically built for domestic and CTA arrivals that depart from T1 to arrive at T1.
229 MainMAN : The shopping area airside is ok. It's not like (for example) MEL where you're forced to walk through a retail mall before you get to your gate. Pier
230 Jetset7E7 : I'm wrong? I don't think so, I can ganruntee I have used that belt more times than you've had hot dinners. T1 is NOT a domestic terminal, Only T3 is.
231 KA501 : Having used Manchester Terminal 2 the other day one thing struck me! Why don't they ban smoking completely? While a small area is reserved for smoking
232 Speedbird19 : I hate them doors on Gate 141, im always gettin stuck LOL
233 GLAGAZ : Judging by the flyGlobespan website they are only selling 12 business class seats on MAN-CPT. Does anyone know the config. of this new 767? I'm pretty
234 Ba757gla : can you fly GLA-MAN on GSM 763
235 MANmatt : Has anyone got any update on whether BG are actually coming to MAN? The flight was displayed on teletext for part of the day yesterday saying cancelle
236 ScottieDog : Okay, a couple of points to tidy up - and hopefully put to bed: Domestic arrivals via Terminal1 - as I understand it, this facility will be in use fro
237 Post contains images MainMAN : There was also a BG arrival from JFK one day last week, marked as cancelled. Well, having a load of cancelled tech BG DC-10s is better than having no
238 Boysteve : SNAP! I saw it fly over Stockport centre too. I thought Syrian had moved to A320's these days. This topped a great double this week as yesterday I wa
239 Post contains images GayrugbyMAN : Talking to a CX pilot yesterday, who told me that BA are soing everything they can to scupper any moves to re-start the MAN - HKG service. He said the
240 GayrugbyMAN : Manchester I see has been dealt another major blow with Ryanair;s announcement that they are to launch an extra 11 routes from Liverpool. What the hel
241 Concorde001 : If that's true, then it is rather silly for BA to be doing this. What about all the passengers flying on fellow oneworld partner AA on MAN-BOS, MAN-M
242 Crosswind : Crews are generally the people least in touch with what's going on behind closed doors in head office, their idea of what's going on comes from what
243 Post contains images MainMAN : I'm not convinced that FR's 11 routes are a major blow, only INV is in direct competition with anything offered ex- MAN. Once a day to ABZ isn't go t
244 MainMAN : This latest of CX rumours is so believable though. There's definitely a relationship between MAN, CX, BA and QF, in fact MAN and OneWorld, and it doe
245 Crosswind : Not sure I agree with that... Qantas pulled out of Manchester just after BA purchased a stake in them, but when looked at logically it was a very sen
246 BAxMAN : Would BA really have the influence to scupper CX's plans to start MAN services? I would have thought they would have bigger fish to fry.
247 Pieinthesky : Good !!!. They should f*ck Jet2 and Baby off to LPL as well. Have a proper business travellers airport at one end of the East Lance and a LCC hub at
248 MANYQB : Really? Isn't the aim of MAG to actually provide facilities for all airlines and thus earn revenue? And what would you define as 'proper business tra
249 Candid76 : Now this is where I have always disagreed - and I stand by my argument that BA could, if they so chose, have operated a proper hub operation at MAN,
250 MANmatt : That's a bit harsh isn't it? What's wrong with having the likes of LS or WW at MAN? They have helped increase passenger numbers greatly over the last
251 Demoose : What MAN needs is one of the big low cost airlines, whilst Jet2 have helped boost passenger figures, they don't have the fleet size to expand at the r
252 Oly720man : Is MAN's problem always going to be that most of the pax are not premium business, but leisure, and there isn't the day to day demand for the long ha
253 ScottieDog : BANGLADESH BIMAN With thanks to a friend of mine who posts on Manchesterspotters2: Following the resolution of some regulatory issues, Biman have been
254 Humberside : TOM will start Marrakech flights this winter
255 GayrugbyMAN : Are Biman to use T2 as indicated on AMOSS?
256 GayrugbyMAN : BWIA end services from MAN on 29th April apparently. Shame they could never make a go of this route, it being dogged by terrible punctuality, poor rel
257 Post contains images Mhodgson : Interesting, When I looked at flying to BGI recently, I could book them on direct flights in June. Looks like they have been removed, though - a sham
258 Candid76 : When I flew with them in November my return flight was only 51 hours late (I wrote a trip report at the time). BWIA wouldn't exist at all if it wasn'
259 Col : Just looked at the March 2006 pax figures on Manchester Airport web site, not pretty! Domestic up 4.9% (BA putting people on shuttle?) International -
260 GayrugbyMAN : Don;t forget extra ZB, BE, FI (starts today), EY, QR and hopefully the flyGlobespan Cape Town will happen. I can't ever see EZY coming to MAN, they ar
261 Humberside : ZB may axe GIB flights due to high landing fees at GIB
262 MainMAN : Precisely Crosswind, and that's the whole point I'm trying to make. If BA, QF and CX operated MAN-HKG, with or without a continuation to SYD, they'd
263 Speedbird19 : Bit of a query, but I noticed a 727 parked remote opposite T2 when i left work today, looked like it said U2 or something on the tail, couldn't quite
264 Post contains images Mhodgson : N727VJ (from Ringway Reports (C) Mike Hopwood)
265 Highpeaklad : Was there at about 1800 and saw the 727 taxiing away from its remote T2 stand. Also saw the Biman DC10 parked at terminal 2 Donbassaero A320 and FlyMe
266 GayrugbyMAN : Etihad have had a great first 10 days at MAN. While inbound loads have hovered around the 90 pax mark, outbounds have been averaging 180 pax, which fo
267 Jetset7E7 : The 727 N727VJ parked on remote, was likely to be a Grand National Charter On its first day of its new service Dhaka-MAN-New York S2-ACS The Donbassa
268 Highpeaklad : jetset7E7 Thanks for the info, it was all from memory what with the hail and howling freezing winds on car park level 13 ! I'd forgotten about the Gra
269 GayrugbyMAN : Icelandair's inaugural service carried 188 passengers in to MAN on Friday evening....great start for them! Watch this service grow and grow....if only
270 Jetset7E7 : Not heard anything of double daily yet, but we have been given loading proceedures for their 777-300ER's, so watch this space, you may see some days
271 Capital146 : Onward connections would be fabulous. FI's fares on LHR-US routes are often fantastic in comparison to the non-stops from BA, VS, AA, etc, so similar
272 Humberside : Icelandair have heavily marketed the service. I have seen regular adverts in the Yorkshire Post (which is unusual for MAN flights) and they have also
273 Pieinthesky : Harsh it may be, but my primary interest is the convenience of my own personal business travel I do out of MAN, as selfish as that may be. The novelt
274 Jetset7E7 : This is because of the poor design and layout of T2. Where you can only have a heavy every 3 or 4 stands due to wingtip clearance. So its treated as
275 Mhodgson : I think they are extending T2 to enable more airbridges, aren't they? You can hardly blame LCCs for the state of T2, considering none use it at the mo
276 Post contains images Myt332 : Don't BMI? Oh wait, that's wrong on two counts.
277 Post contains images Speedbird19 : I think so yeah, EK have to use 202 and the airbridge on there isn't exactly great lol Plus with the eventual arrival of the A380's in the near futur
278 Jetset7E7 : I wasn't blaming LCC's for the poor design of T2 at all. I was saying none of the LCC's use T2, as T1 and T3 are closer to the runways, hence times o
279 Post contains images Mhodgson : Comment aimed at pieinthesky
280 Myt332 : Hola! Yea it's going really good thanks, saw the other Mark on the train the other week, hadn't seen him for a while either! Swissport, or is it Shit
281 Post contains images Jetset7E7 : Ok no worries! Mark
282 MANmatt : Like other's have already said you can hardly blame people like WW, LS, etc for you having to wait for a stand at T2 as none of them even operate fro
283 Post contains images Azza40 : any info on the Antonov 124 that is coming in on wednesday/tommorrow? times will be helpful. Aaron
284 GayrugbyMAN : outbursts! Ever heard of private messages? As sweet as reunions are, I don'think this is the forum for such emotional
285 Demoose : Speak for yourself, im sure many people on here would rather you keep some of your own emotional outburts to yourself.
286 Post contains images MANmatt : Aren't you missing one major airline there mate?!!!
287 Post contains links Humberside : Tis thread is a bit long now. How about a version 4? This now been confirmed. Being replaced by extra PMI and AGP flights http://www.flymonarch.com/cn
288 Post contains images Speedbird19 : Aww no more GIB? I wanted to go there as well lol
289 Mhodgson : Can't book flights beyond 13th July
290 Post contains images Pieinthesky : It does it more often than you must see it then. The missus flew out after me on SQ327 on a Wednesday and back before me on SQ328 on a Wednesday in F
291 MANmatt : Well i must be a wednesday thing as today it was parked remote as well. I was dealing with the Mahan Air flight and i noticed it parked up remote. I
292 Pieinthesky : SQ tell me they are expected to go remote once a week !. They're not happy about it I can tell you but as long as everyone 'shares the load' they'll
293 MANmatt : That's exactly what the airport does, it asks every airline to have at least one departure from a remote stand every week, that way it isn't the same
294 Boysteve : I flew SQ last September and used a remote stand on both legs of the trip. The remote stand is a pain the arse but what really compounded the issue w
295 ScottieDog : Hi Boysteve I can understand your frustration however I believe the delay is often (not neccessarily by SQ) caused by an airlines decision to wait fo
296 Post contains links and images Mhodgson : The problem with the SQ is that it is scheduled to arrive at 0830 - however, I have witnessed it arrive up to 2 hours earlier. At this point, all the
297 Pieinthesky : Not quite correct. SQ328 is due in at 0650. The only flights due at 0830 are the Tuesday and Thursday SQ346, a 744 that comes via ZRH, and that thing
298 Mhodgson : Oops - I checked teletext for todays flight time - which is SQ346!
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