AirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1503 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2884 times:
I was wondering when will we hear if AC decided to strip the paint and polish their fleet or not? Which of the pictures do you like the best from different angle and time of day? Most netters don't like the pictures others think its not too bad although we don't want our a/c to look almost like AA. But hey if it does save lots of money I guess AC will adapt to other a/c. Probably not. I like the first picture up close at night especially with the tail logo light is on at night.
F14D4ever From United States of America, joined May 2005, 319 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2884 times:
The red lettering is beautiful on white or bare metal. But throw in the (very nice) pale blue-green (robin's egg blue?) on the tail and it doesn't quite look as nice with bare metal. I'll vote for the white fuselage.
KrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1588 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2769 times:
Quoting AirCanada014 (Thread starter): I was wondering when will we hear if AC decided to strip the paint and polish their fleet or not?
Hopefully GDSP will be the only one.
I was wondering the same thing.... The original plan was to evaluate the look and savings of the metal scheme. I know AC tried to stripe another B767, but decided not to because its been re-painted so many the paint shop couldn't get it shinny.
There a few AC insiders on here, so I hope one of them can shine some light on the subject.
TUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 649 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2616 times:
I think the problem here is that the this 767 has been painted for around 20 years or so,and after that amount of time your never going to get the "AA" finish no matter how hard you try to scrub and polish.
If you look at JAL cargo's new 400's , they gleam, where as there old 200,s that have had a retro "polish up" are just not up to the same standard.
The guys at the top of there game in this field are AA, when a ship comes out of the "Paint/Polish" shop it's absolutley stunning....
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10675 posts, RR: 62 Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2403 times:
Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 5): I think the problem here is that the this 767 has been painted for around 20 years or so,and after that amount of time your never going to get the "AA" finish no matter how hard you try to scrub and polish.
Not so. Many said the same thing about the TWA aircraft -- that after years of painting, there was no way they could ever be stripped, polished and buffed to the same shine as the never-painted nAAtive aircraft. However, while most of the TWA planes looked pretty dirty and crappy (much like the bare metal AC 767) after their first paint stripping, most now look just the same as the AA aircraft after being cleaned, polished and buffed a few times.
Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 5): The guys at the top of there game in this field are AA, when a ship comes out of the "Paint/Polish" shop it's absolutley stunning....
Agree completely. When you see a newly polished 777 roll out on the tarmac, with metal so shiny you need sunglasses to look at it, it looks amazing in the sunlight ... truly is a sight to behold, IMO.
JohnClipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 820 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2309 times:
Only problem with the polished aircraft is that they don't stay that original gleaming beauty after they had their first polishing. The circular swirling of the buffing pads creates inconsistent buff marks on the aircraft.
Bravogolf From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 538 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2260 times:
If done right. any aircraft can be polished up to beyound gleaming. There is a B25J gunship, that is on the airshow circuit, that you needed sunglasses to look at it in the shade. I do think a stripe behind the Air Canada, full length of the fuselage, would help.
Smokescreen From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 230 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2216 times:
1. spiral buff marks or not, that AA 757 looks awesome!
Quoting Bravogolf (Reply 10): I do think a stripe behind the Air Canada, full length of the fuselage, would help.
Hear, hear. Every airline should have a cheatline as part of their livery.
3. I asked this a while back in another thread, but never really got an answer: I am hard-pressed to think of a non-North American airline that has used a bare-metal scheme. Why is this "look" exclusive to carriers from the northern half of the Western hemisphere?
AC7E7 From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 641 posts, RR: 23 Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2207 times:
People.... this was a test. AC wanted to see if they would be able to save money by simply polishing the aircraft. Considering this is an aircraft that will not be in the fleet for much longer, why would they spend the extra money polishing it a la AA when they just wanted to see if the reduction in weight would be worth it.
I'm sure if they decide to go ahead with the rest of the 767 fleet, they will do it properly so it looks great. But this is a test on one aircraft. This way, if they decide not to go ahead with the polished look on the rest of the fleet, they can re-paint this one (or not) without having spent the extra money polishing it to perfection. If they do go ahead with the polished look, they will put the extra money into the job on the rest of the 767 fleet. This particular aircraft will not be in service long enough anyway to repaint or polish to perfection.
Yes we all know how it looks, but you people have to get over it. They are looking at the numbers at this point. The look of the aircraft is not important. Yes, I know some of you will get picky here, and say, "Yes, the look does matter yada yada yada...." News flash, it doesn't. Not this airframe anyway. If they go ahead with the new look, it will be done properly. This aircraft is old and will no doubt see retirement within the next couple of years.
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