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User currently offlinePosti From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 106 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

This morning I came into work and like every other morning began the day reading the aviation news supplied by the company. In doing this I came across one of the worst news articles I've ever read, "Airbus Sees No Delay to A380 Service" by the Associated Press. Allow me to quote the first two lines

"PARIS (AP) -- The Airbus A380 superjumbo will enter service later this year as scheduled despite the rupture of a wing during ground tests, the European aircraft maker said Friday.

Airbus spokeswoman Barbara Kracht said the wings of the 555-seater may require "refinements at certain points" as a result of the fracture, which happened Tuesday during ground testing in Toulouse."

Does the author not realize that the wing was broken intentionally? Did they not see a picture showing the humongous gig constructed to snap the wing?
By this logic all cars would be unsafe because, during testing, plastic men are put inside and the cars "crash full speed into walls".
The article does go on to describe the testing process, but an uninformed person just reading the headline and introduction could easily and incorrectly deduce that the A380 is unsafe. Who writes this tripe? There have got to be some smart journalists out there.

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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

I believe that your hypothetical "uninformed person" would understand that the wing rupture happened on the GROUND, and during a TEST, as mentioned TWICE in the article.

I also believe that said reader would not find the word "unsafe" anywhere in the article.

The article is certainly not one of the worst I have ever read.



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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

Quoting Posti (Thread starter):
Does the author not realize that the wing was broken intentionally?

Actually....I think the author does realize that.....If you read the article, you too would realize that as well.

Quoting Posti (Thread starter):
Did they not see a picture showing the humongous gig constructed to snap the wing?

I didn't, since you didnt provide it.

Quoting Posti (Thread starter):
The article does go on to describe the testing process, but an uninformed person just reading the headline and introduction could easily and incorrectly deduce that the A380 is unsafe.

I think that is an extreemist point of view.

Quoting Posti (Thread starter):
Who writes this tripe?

No idea. You didn't provide that, either.

Quoting Posti (Thread starter):
There have got to be some smart journalists out there

I don't think you realize what a smart journalist is, by your post.


User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

AP is by far the most inaccuarte, biased, and "shoot from the hip" "news" organization out there.
During the SARS scare days, my wife was misquoted by one of their so-called reporters. Since she works for a major European airline, here in the States, her comments were then quoted on CNN. I happen to be there when the reporter was doing the interview. The reporter intentionally quoted things that my wife DID NOT SAY. Attempts by the airline's PR deptartment to correct those quotes by the AP went unanswered. They simply refused to correct their mistake.
Anyone that believes that the AP is thoughtful, accurate and unbiased better pay attention. I have worked for the largest print media company in the world and I know that the media has it's own, self-appointed, agenda.
And many times they will dive into subjects that they know little to nothing about and report as experts.

[Edited 2006-02-17 17:36:48]


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User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3042 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Quoting Posti (Thread starter):
Does the author not realize that the wing was broken intentionally? Did they not see a picture showing the humongous gig constructed to snap the wing?

The word 'testing' is mentioned in the article. I dont see anything wrong with this article.

Quoting Posti (Thread starter):
The article does go on to describe the testing process, but an uninformed person just reading the headline and introduction could easily and incorrectly deduce that the A380 is unsafe

I believe the word TEST is mentioned twice in the first two sentences. That sets the stage for reader to know that this happened during TESTING. The article does NOT need to go into detail what the test consists of. And AP does NOT make the A380 sound unsafe. If it did, look for Airbus preparing a lawsuit.

You need to read that article a little more carefully WORD BY WORD. And don't miss the word TEST.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 3):
AP is by far the most inaccuarte, biased, and "shoot from the hip" "news" organization out there.
During the SARS scare days, my wife was misquoted by one of their so-called reporters. Since she works for a major European airline, here in the States, her comments were then quoted on CNN. I happen to be there when the reporter was doing the interview. The reporter intentionally quoted things that my wife DID NOT SAY. Attempts by the airline's PR deptartment to correct those quotes by the AP went unanswered. They simply refused to correct their mistake.
Anyone that believes that the AP is thoughtful, accurate and unbiased better pay attention. I have worked for the largest print media company in the world and I know that the media has it's own, self-appointed, agenda.
And many times they will dive into subjects that they know little to nothing about and report as experts.

Agreed. The sad reality that people can quote the AP as a reliable source without having to do their own checks is what is contributing to the wealth of politicized misinformation on just about every subject known to man.

Of course checking your own facts is harder and takes time, so to avoid that mess and be "first" why bother?



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User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 4):
And you still let your wife talk to the press, and be misquoted. More fool you! Duh Duh Duh - she could have lost her job, and you just stood by!

Since the country you come from has only recently been exposed to a Free Press, I should not expect an intelligent comment to be made by you. Having said that, the AP reporter did not identify herself, but was asking many people what they thought about SARS while we were waiting on a line to enter the Smithsonian Air & Space museum. And had you actually READ what I said above, you would have noticed that the AP reporter put words into the story which my wife DID NOT SAY.
But thank you for your comments. Next time AP shows up, I'll keep your enlightened comments in mind...
 sarcastic 



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User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

I think most of you don't read and that you actually think that Fox news is the "end all".....AP, for the most part (95percent), is accurate and filled with journalistic integrity...Don't believe the Rush Limbaugh's of the world who try to divide this country by calling one media outlet after another liberal, biased, Clinton News Network etc...
STAND up for yourselves and use YOUR brain not somebody else's tainted crap.
Mark Garfinkel


User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2237 times:

I just read my post... one above...again..... and am a bit sorry to have come across the way I did..
Mark Grfinkel


User currently offlinePosti From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2219 times:

You cannot read the first sentence of the article and tell me it's a quality piece of journalism. I'm not saying the article is fabricated or untrue, I'm arguing that it’s very misleading. The phrase “despite the rupture of a wing” gives the impression that something went wrong and the wing ruptured accidentally. We all know better, but some people may not.

IMO The aim or journalism is to provide clear information to the masses, and due to the ambiguousness of this article I’m sticking with my opinion that this is a poor work of journalism.

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 2):
No idea. You didn't provide that, either.

No author was specified in the article.


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