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Best Latam Airline Pilot Salary?  
User currently offlineDerekone From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 28 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10175 times:

I heard not long ago that aeromexico pilots get pay around $3800 in USD a month am I correct?


WHAT ABOUT COPA, MEXICANA, VARIG, TACA, AV, E,T,C in $USD


will also have to consider the value of money by country


I DONT KNOW WHAT CAN I SAY?????????
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User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5217 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 10168 times:

Quoting Derekone (Thread starter):
I heard not long ago that aeromexico pilots get pay around $3800 in USD a month am I correct?

Plus other bonuses! This can raise up to 5/6,000 a month! Last I saw some AM B757/B767s pilot are making 20,000 USD a month!!! Now with the T7's perhaps they might go up to 25,000 USD a month!!

Interjet and Volaris are paying something nearly to 4,500 a month to the f/o's! Captain's are getting 6-7,000 USD a month!!!

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineDerekone From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 10153 times:

how many hours a month are you thalking about??


I DONT KNOW WHAT CAN I SAY?????????
User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10098 times:

I don't know but I highly doubt a Colombian Pilot makes 20000 dollars a month,not even the damned senators make so much money in a month!


I gladly accept donations to pay for flight hours! This thing draws man...
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10067 times:

Derekone, Mexicana and Aeromexico's pilots are the highest paid in Latin America at the moment. 3 friends of mine were furlough from Mexicana right after 9-11, they went to Emirates. They were very happy with the paid at MX, but I think they make a bit more at EK to fly a widebody.

User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5922 posts, RR: 40
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10004 times:

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 3):
I don't know but I highly doubt a Colombian Pilot makes 20000 dollars a month,not even the damned senators make so much money in a month!

anyway Avianca pilots are/were good paid, this was for yours a big problem the high pilots salarys

regards
avianca



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1773 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10000 times:

I would also think that AM, MX and in general ASPA union pilots are the highest paid. This, because of years and years of union pressure on airlines.

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9725 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9987 times:

How about LA?

A388


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5217 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9928 times:

Pilots log something around 80-90 hours a month.

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9787 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 1):
This can raise up to 5/6,000 a month! Last I saw some AM B757/B767s pilot are making 20,000 USD a month!!! Now with the T7's perhaps they might go up to 25,000 USD a month!!

"The above message will be automatically retransmitted to the Mexican IRS."


User currently offlineDerekone From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9761 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 1):
B757/B767s pilot are making 20,000 USD a month!!! Now with the T7's perhaps they might go up to 25,000 USD a month!

that's alot of money for this pilots with this types of aircraft B757/B767



they earn more money than a delta B777 captain with 12 years of seniority
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/legacy/delta-200502248.htm


THAT'S ALOT OF MONEY!!!!! WEN I BECOME A PILOT I,M MOVING TO MEXICO THEN



I DONT KNOW WHAT CAN I SAY?????????
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5217 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9756 times:

They not only fly @ AM. It's because they have other responsibilities at the pilots union.

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 9729 times:

Quoting Derekone (Reply 2):
how many hours a month are you thalking about??



Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 8):
Pilots log something around 80-90 hours a month.

MX pilots usually log an average of between 72 and 85 hours per month. AM pilots log between 80 and 90. In general, it is a well-known fact MX pilots make overall a little less than those of AM, due to different extra benefits directly related to different routings. Both of them belong to the same union.

Quoting Derekone (Reply 10):
THAT'S ALOT OF MONEY!!!!! WEN I BECOME A PILOT I,M MOVING TO MEXICO THEN

Sorry to discourage you, but IIRC as per the Mexican constitution, only Mexicans by birth can become crew members and captain ships, trains or aircraft flying under the Mexican flag. There's probably a way around through an "amparo" lawsuit.

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User currently offlineDerekone From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9708 times:

Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 12):
Quoting Derekone (Reply 2):how many hours a month are you thalking about??


Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 8):Pilots log something around 80-90 hours a month.
MX pilots usually log an average of between 72 and 85 hours per month. AM pilots log between 80 and 90. In general, it is a well-known fact MX pilots make overall a little less than those of AM, due to different extra benefits directly related to different routings. Both of them belong to the same union.

Quoting Derekone (Reply 10):THAT'S ALOT OF MONEY!!!!! WEN I BECOME A PILOT I,M MOVING TO MEXICO THEN
Sorry to discourage you, but IIRC as per the Mexican constitution, only Mexicans by birth can become crew members and captain ships, trains or aircraft flying under the Mexican flag. There's probably a way around through an "amparo" lawsuit

thanks for the facts



I DONT KNOW WHAT CAN I SAY?????????
User currently offlineAirlineAV8tr From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 191 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9701 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 1):
Interjet and Volaris are paying something nearly to 4,500 a month to the f/o's! Captain's are getting 6-7,000 USD a month!!!

I happened to be biligual, and married a Mexican. After our marriage she wanted to return to her home town of Xalapa, Veracruz where she worked as a lawyer. I checked with many airlines at the time- Aero Litaral, Aero Mar, Aero California, and Allegro (this was 6 years ago). I was blown away by the salaries, and by the way pilots are regarded. They still maintain the treatment similar to Leonardo DeCaprio in "Catch Me if you Can"! What bothered me a little was having to actually live in Mexico, and maintenance that I observed. I spoke with an Aero Literal crew in MTY, and they gave me a tour of their Saab-340, which had 4 open write-ups! They said that this was common! Even after that it was a hard decision to stay in the US, because even though salary was comparable, I would be able to afford true luxuries down there, that I would never be able to afford here. I have even come across "gringos" who fly for US airlines living down there and commuting! They reported being able to have a full-time maid who cooks, a driver, and a high-class condominium for only $650 per month! By doing that, they're putting away $2,000 a month!



If we went into the funeral business, people would stop dying.-Martin S. (PanAm CEO)
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9642 times:

Quoting Derekone (Reply 10):

THAT'S ALOT OF MONEY!!!!! WEN I BECOME A PILOT I,M MOVING TO MEXICO THEN



Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 12):
Sorry to discourage you, but IIRC as per the Mexican constitution, only Mexicans by birth can become crew members and captain ships, trains or aircraft flying under the Mexican flag. There's probably a way around through an "amparo" lawsuit.

Solution: Adopt the Mexican nationality.


User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1773 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9624 times:

How much do you guys think this is affecting AM/MX/VW finances? Also, do you think this will change with the advent of non-unionized posts with new LCC's? Will this be positive for local aviation?

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5217 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9570 times:

Quoting AirlineAV8tr (Reply 14):
What bothered me a little was having to actually live in Mexico, and maintenance that I observed. I spoke with an Aero Literal crew in MTY, and they gave me a tour of their Saab-340, which had 4 open write-ups!

Indeed! But check the stats! Despite 5D reports, zero accidents in all it's history! IIRC, they only had one incident back in 2002 @ TIJ. Nothing else! They have over 250 flights a day... that's safety!!!

Allegro had only one incident out of hundreds of operations!!! AeroMar record is also clean with two/three incidents @ MEX and Aero California despite it's old fleet they were clean till July 04. But after all, aviation in Mexico is VERY SAFE!! Last fatal accident was back in March of 99 with XA-TKN from GD.

Quoting AM744 (Reply 16):
How much do you guys think this is affecting AM/MX/VW finances? Also, do you think this will change with the advent of non-unionized posts with new LCC's? Will this be positive for local aviation?

It will affect AM,MX,VW and 5D. QA has lower salaries. Issue here is LCC's are paying high but giving non extra bonuses!!! AM, MX, VW and 5D pay OK but give several extra benefits!!!

So far, the arrival of more carriers it's been very positive!!! LL crews needed to go somewhere!!! MX crews flying for 6A are going back to MX and QA, some others from MX leaving to Interjet and Volaris, others in 6A moving on to ZE, crews from GMT going to Interjet and Volaris, and still soon sure some more from 6A, ZE and GMT will go to GolMex. MX and AM are loosing also employee's from other areas which are going directly to the new competitors. 5D is calling new pilots and with 6A's 727 retirement this is perfect since they're re-adjusting it's 3 cabin pilot to 2 crew cockpit man... several movements going on during these months!! 2006 and 2007 will very active!!!

And still we are missing 3 more start-ups with B737s, AeroMexpress return, Mas Air's expansion as well as MX/QA expansion!!!

Still uncertain what will be of JR and VW. JR also pays good money to it's crews!!

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7561 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 9502 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 1):
saw some AM B757/B767s pilot are making 20,000 USD a month!!!



Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 12):
MX pilots usually log an average of between 72 and 85 hours per month. AM pilots log between 80 and 90.

This is scandalous. I have to bill at least 150-160 hours a month to be taken seriously at the firm, and my paycheck is an ant's eye in comparison with what an AM captain makes. Maybe I chose the wrong profession!!!

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 17):
And still we are missing 3 more start-ups with B737s

THREE!!!???



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5217 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 9391 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 18):
THREE!!!???

Yeap! Aerolíneas Internacionales return with new investors, one more based at PBC and one more being Air Madrid's feeder.

And now, Ryanair's project to be known next Feb, 27th!

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineAirlineAV8tr From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 191 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9372 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 18):
Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 12):
MX pilots usually log an average of between 72 and 85 hours per month. AM pilots log between 80 and 90.

This is scandalous. I have to bill at least 150-160 hours a month to be taken seriously at the firm, and my paycheck is an ant's eye in comparison with what an AM captain makes. Maybe I chose the wrong profession!!!

Well, you need to consider that they only FLY 75-80 hrs per month. But if I sat down and counted how many hours were devoted to the job, it would be 150-160 hrs per month. Time going to and from the airport, security lines, walking to your next gate, van rides to the hotel, and time at the hotel are not considered hourly pay! While there is something called "per diem", that pays us from the time we shut the door at the beginning of the trip, to the time we block in, it's only on average $2.00 an hour! So yes, while we are not "flying" 160 hrs a month, we are definitely "working".



If we went into the funeral business, people would stop dying.-Martin S. (PanAm CEO)
User currently offlineCessnaLady From Mexico, joined May 2004, 310 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9359 times:

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 15):
Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 12):
Sorry to discourage you, but IIRC as per the Mexican constitution, only Mexicans by birth can become crew members and captain ships, trains or aircraft flying under the Mexican flag. There's probably a way around through an "amparo" lawsuit.


Solution: Adopt the Mexican nationality.

Read again: << ...only Mexicans by birth >>. No adoption of nationality is supposed to help on this one... Supposed, yes.

Marie


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