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What Routes Will Turkish Airlines Fly Their A330  
User currently offlineYdahman From Syria, joined Feb 2006, 39 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8251 times:

Hello everyone,

I have been an airliners.net visitor since 2000 but this is the first time I sign up as a member. I am interested in knowing which routes will THY fly their brand new A330 and when they will fly to USA. How many A330 have they ordered and how many have been received? Thanks all and appreciate any of your comments.

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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4420 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8221 times:

Ydahman,
Welcome to a.net, happy to have you here. TK has two 330s as of now, from a total of 5 planes ordered.

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They have been doing mostly AMS, LHR, DUS . Recently, I think one went to Beijing, when one A340 was stuck in JFK, and another going through some renovations. I have also heard rumors that one made it to JFK. But I think there are still some ETOPS issues before 330s can serve JFK, and from other discussions I understand that they will be mainly used for Asian routes.


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3938 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8213 times:

IAH.........? Hey, I can dream can't I?  laughing 

Thomas



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4420 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8207 times:

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 2):
IAH.........? Hey, I can dream can't I?

You know, you are not that far off. I used to live in Houston in the late 80's, and was surprised to see a huge Turkish population there, including one of the few consulates in the US. And lots of Turks were there because of good colleges, and good hospitals. But TK is planning on IAD, LAX and maybe YYZ if the Canadians agree, on this side of the pond.


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25049 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8204 times:

The core summer schedule has them flying IST-BKK, IST-PEK-PVG.

However I am sure the type will also pop up on plenty domestic and European services based on loads.



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User currently offlineYdahman From Syria, joined Feb 2006, 39 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8156 times:

How long will it be before THY renew their A340 especially the ones they have been using to ORD and JFK?

User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8051 times:

In the near future, TK is planning to seperate BKK and SIN flights. I guess on these routes, some days 330s will be used.
Currently they are mostly used on European routes as mentioned before..


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4420 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7972 times:

Quoting Ydahman (Reply 5):
How long will it be before THY renew their A340 especially the ones they have been using to ORD and JFK?

The 340 fleet is about 10 yrs. old. Looks like they are going to be renovated as the 330s come in. I am sure some of our Turkey based a.netters can tell us how long this will take. I am hoping for a 787 order for their eventual replacement, can you tell?


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 7902 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 7):
The 340 fleet is about 10 yrs. old. Looks like they are going to be renovated as the 330s come in. I am sure some of our Turkey based a.netters can tell us how long this will take. I am hoping for a 787 order for their eventual replacement, can you tell?

I do not think they will replace the A340 so soon, as you mentioned the fleet is about 10 years old... so why should they replace them?



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User currently offlineBahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1775 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 23 hours ago) and read 7895 times:

TK will hang on to those 340s as long as they can. They cannot find a substitute for them in the leasing market. There is a shortage of good long haul aircraft in the market right now. Besides, what will be the substitude?


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User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 19 hours ago) and read 7817 times:

All 340s will be occupied with PTVs. So that I guess TK will keep them on the fleet more.

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 7766 times:

According to FlightAware one of the Turkish A330-200s made an appearance at JFK on December 29th or 30th.

I heard a while ago that JFK would be one of the destinations served by the A330-200



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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 15 hours ago) and read 7735 times:

Germany got alot of turkish residents/ immigrants, many TK widebodys flying to FRA MUC and other places (313 and 332)

Am I right about this?

Micke//SE  Smile



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4420 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 13 hours ago) and read 7710 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 12):
Germany got alot of turkish residents/ immigrants, many TK widebodys flying to FRA MUC and other places (313 and 332)

Am I right about this?

You are right. A310s have been all over the place over the years, but if you want a slice of where the new A330s have been, you can see some of them if you do a search on the photo database, and just put in TC-JNA as keyword.


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 40
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 4 hours ago) and read 7627 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 12):
Germany got alot of turkish residents/ immigrants, many TK widebodys flying to FRA MUC and other places (313 and 332)

Am I right about this?

yes at german airports you will see all TK aircrafts that they have...



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User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 866 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 3 hours ago) and read 7596 times:

I wouldn't mind seeing one in JED . There's a large Turkish community in Jeddah (and even more in Medina).

User currently offlineRobcol99 From Turkey, joined Jun 2004, 294 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 7584 times:

Due to scheduling, 4 out of 5 A330s in service will be occupied with doing IST-BKK-IST (becoming a daily non-stop flight in summer), and IST-PEK-PVG (daily).
Two of them along with a 5th extra one (scheduled for delivery in July) will be available to do runs to AMS, LHR, DUS, ORY, DXB, FRA.

India flights (4 weekly to Delhi and 3 weekly to Bombay--Bombay starting this spring) will be on A310s.


I dont know if Lagos, again starting in Spring will be served by A310s or A332.

Last month, THY purchased the first 5 of the 7 A340s (TC-JDJ,JDK,JDL,JDM,JDN) from the leasing company, so it's owned aircraft now, they are not going anywhere soon.


User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 7581 times:

HiJazzey:

I am sure during Hajj time, they will send 330s to Jeddah..


User currently offlineMSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 7570 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 3):
But TK is planning on IAD, LAX and maybe YYZ if the Canadians agree, on this side of the pond.

Are there any news regarding TK serving Toronto ? I have been hearing about the possibility of this route for a a while but it hasn't materialized yet .
Do Canada and Turkey have a bilateral aviation agreement ? If yes what is the problem then ? Is TK waiting for more planes ?



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User currently offlineBahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1775 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 7537 times:

MSYYZ,
we beat that horse to death and we are taking stabs at it  Smile
Canadian government is the reason why THY hasn't (or should i say couldn't) start the service to YYZ.



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4420 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months ago) and read 7501 times:

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 15):
I wouldn't mind seeing one in JED

According to the TK website I was looking at the time, TK94 to JED on Feb 12th, was operated by 332. Someone can confirm?


User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7442 times:

Any chance of Turkish returning to MIA?


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25049 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7419 times:

Quoting MSYYZ (Reply 18):
Do Canada and Turkey have a bilateral aviation agreement ? If yes what is the problem then ?

Been discussed many times previously.

But yes Turkey and Canada do have an air service agreement. It dates from 1950s and only list Montreal as a service point on the Canada side.

THY and the Turkish government has been trying to engage the Canadians for several years now in attempting be granted authority for Toronto.
Canada is neither interested in renegotiating the bilateral nor authorizing extra bilateral authority for Turkey to serve Toronto as there is no desire by a Canadian airline (read Air Canada) to reciprocate.
AC is content feeding Turkey destined pax via Star partner Lufthansa and is not keen to see that traffic diverted to a nonstop THY flight.



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User currently offlineYdahman From Syria, joined Feb 2006, 39 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7356 times:

Was THY using A340 to BKK PEK and PVG before receiving their A330. Isnt it more convenient to fly their new A330 over the Atlantic and fly their A340 to the above Asian cities.

Have they renovated or renewed any of their A340 yet and if yes have anything been changed internally?


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4420 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7334 times:

Quoting Ydahman (Reply 23):
Was THY using A340 to BKK PEK and PVG before receiving their A330

Yes

Quoting Ydahman (Reply 23):
Isnt it more convenient to fly their new A330 over the Atlantic and fly their A340 to the above Asian cities.

Maybe not, also ETOPS is an issue.

Quoting Ydahman (Reply 23):
Have they renovated or renewed any of their A340 yet and if yes have anything been changed internally?

First one is in the process.


25 A388 : I would like to know this too.... Any chance of seeing TK back in MIA? A388
26 TK787 : Hi Robcol99, Do you have any info if the remaining 2 will be bought also? Since they are the youngest ones in the fleet (JHI= 7yrs. JII=6 yrs. old),
27 Ydahman : Are these GE engines or RR or something else? Whats the difference between the GE and RR engines? What engines do Emirates and MEA use on their A330 a
28 N503JB : Not planning anymore, the summer schedule is confirm (If they not change at the last minutes). IST-HKG-IST non-stop (TK070/071) effective from 26 Mar
29 TK787 : Twice daily? Is that correct, and anyone knows how the loads are on that route? Thanks.
30 TurkishSky : fully booked all the time.... but i have not seen info about the second daily anywhere at all.
31 TK787 : TurkishSky, Is it mostly people going out there for the sunny beaches?, transit? any business travelers? Thanks,
32 TurkishSky : Could be anything. A lot of Turkish groups of taken on award tours. These are mostly distributors of famous brands who reach their sales target.... Re
33 MD90fan : IIRC I read on here that ICN was going to see the 332 also.
34 Bahadir : TK successfuly provides one stop connection out of Istanbul with low rates and good level of service. I just booked IST-ORD one way business class for
35 TK787 : It is not a bad fare, you are right? So no PTVs mean , just overhead tvs for the business class? Thanks. Also anyone can confirm that it is actually
36 ManchesterMAN : I just found out I've got to go to Beijing in April and the company buying my ticket have booked me on TK MAN-IST-PEK. I'm not thrilled about this (I
37 TK787 : ManchesterMAN, Lucky you. I think the 330s have PTVs, seat pitch should be 31". I am sure, someone works for TK will have a more specific answer for y
38 Post contains links ThereAndBack : The Y cabin has PTV's it says so on the Turkish Airlines Website. On www.myaviation.net there is a picture of what the new business class looks like.
39 ManchesterMAN : Thanks for this info guys. Strangely I looked up the seat maps on expert flyer on on both the outbound and return it lists the flight as being operate
40 Ydahman : I think someone had mentioned in a previous article that TK is planning to service IAD. Does anyone know when will they fly to IAD? Thanks
41 Post contains images Pilotaydin : TK has been planning to grow slowly and one of our main goals in the coming years is to parallel this theme of being in both asia and europe. The reas
42 Ydahman : Thanks for the great info you added to this forum Pilotaydin. Does anyone have any information on how many flights Turkish Airlines operate on daily o
43 Post contains links TK787 : Ydahman, Check out the TK website for some of this info: http://www4.thy.com/deparr/start.tk Just leave the flight number spot empty, put in differen
44 TS-IOR : Tunisair often operate AB6s to IST, so why not TK's A332s ?
45 Ydahman : Anyone has any pictures of the interior of the new THY A330?
46 Post contains images TK787 : I could't find the A330 interiors, but here are the 320, 738 ints.
47 Ydahman : I flew on THY 340-300 1.5 year ago and as far as I remember the interior colors look different than the above 2 photos. Thanks for posting the picture
48 TK787 : Ydahman, As posted on another thread, TK is revamping its interiors. Looks like 738s and 320s get different looks. Eventually with the introduction o
49 Kesflyer : IST-BKK 2 x Daily - you sure.. Pretty sure still once daily TK60. For the beaches ?? Yeh right mate.. Turkey has plenty of beaches and sun and very mu
50 TK787 : True for about 5 months out of the year. Oct-Apr beaches in Turkey are pretty much deserted. I agree with rest of the reasons.
51 N503JB : Here is confirm, TK cancelled double daily now. TK60 1234567 IST2355 BKK1300*1 A332 TK61 1234567 BKK2235 IST0500*1 A332 Regards / N503JB
52 Post contains images Emrecan : Kesflyer: I think Bangkok is a nice city for horny businessmen
53 Post contains images Thaiaggie : Hmmmm Sad but true
54 Emrecan : Thaiaggie: Don`t worry. I`ve been to Bangkok last summer and it is really a nice city for tourists (of course not only for sex).
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