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Ryan Air To Set Up A New LoCo In Mexico  
User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10416 times:

According to Reforma newspaper, Ryan Air is to anounce a joint venture with Mexican bus company Autotransportes Mexicanos (IAMSA) to set up yet another new low cost carrier in Mexico (sorry, link in Spanish):

http://www.reforma.com/negocios/articulo/621963/

The new carrier's presentation will take place in Mexico City on Feb 27th.

Looks like I'm the only one not setting up a new LoCo in Mexico this year...

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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10391 times:

Ryanair, as in the Irish airline, or Ryan International?

The article doesn't load unless you sign-in.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10377 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 1):
Ryanair, as in the Irish airline, or Ryan International?

RyanAir, the Irish low cost airline. (The article states "RyanAir, the Irish airline). Unfortunately it's for subscribers only, but it doesn't give much additional information, other than Robert Ryan will be here for the presentation.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19236 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10354 times:

Quoting JoseMEX (Reply 2):
RyanAir, the Irish low cost airline.

Intriguing.

Any more info?



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1638 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10313 times:

Quoting JoseMEX (Reply 2):
it doesn't give much additional information, other than Robert Ryan will be here for the presentation.

Who's Robert Ryan ?

Whoever he is, I don't see Michael O'Leary's Ryanair doing anything like this.



I don't like signatures...
User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10306 times:

I think the journalist might be getting confused between the american and irish 'ryan' airlines

User currently offlineEI2KSEA From Ireland, joined Jul 2004, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10281 times:

I dont think Robert is one of the original Ryan brothers (and they're dad) who was involved in setting up Ryanair in 1984. In fact I dont think he's the same family - it was just Declan and Shane and Tony.


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User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10236 times:

I have already written the journalist to ask for more info as I also believe there is a confusion with similar names.

I will keep you informed.

PZ



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10213 times:

Loco is right. The Mexican market is starting to be saturated with entrants.


When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10185 times:

Huh? WTF! This is VERY CONFUSING!!!!! Apart from this new LoCo carrier setting up STILL, THREE more coming, plus GolMex and Alma which this last one has recently selected GDL as it's airport base and CRJ-200s as it's main equipments!!!

Where will this RyanAir thing base? TLC? MTY? GDL?!!!

What's going on in here!!! Whatever this is, REALLY GREAT NEWS!!! Investments are good for the economy and the country.

If no-one ever before invested before I think it mainly was the government protection and a complicated scenery of competition with MX and AM mainly. But now, with CINTRA's sale and a whole aviation industry wide open for new competitors everyone seeks for a piece of the cake.

Keep them coming!!! Hopefully they choose B737NGs!!! No more Airbus please!!! Enough with the +90 so far projected for Volaris and Interjet....!!!

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10153 times:

Quoting JoseMEX (Thread starter):
Ryan Air is to anounce a joint venture with Mexican bus company Autotransportes

Isn't the bus company shooting itselves in the foot? Cheaper air tickets means they would lose customers.
Dominic



ALITALIA,All Landings In Torino, All Luggage In Athens ;)
User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10142 times:

Quoting TheSorcerer (Reply 10):
Isn't the bus company shooting itselves in the foot? Cheaper air tickets means they would lose customers.

Not if it's an airport-city bus service. The increase in passengers at the airport would mean more customers on the buses.


User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10110 times:

The journalist confirmed it is Ryanair from Irland. He sent me Anthony Ryan's resume. He is the one who will be in Mexico City next Feb 27th.



T. Anthony Ryan has served as a Director of Ryanair Holdings since July 2, 1996 and as a Director of Ryanair Limited since April 12, 1995. Dr. Ryan served as Chairman of the Board of Ryanair Holdings from August 23, 1996 until December 1996 and as Chairman of the Board of Ryanair Limited from January 1996 until December 1996. Dr. Ryan was one of the founders in 1975 of GPA Group plc ("GPA"), an operating lessor of commercial aircraft, and served as Chairman of GPA from 1985 to 1993. Following a restructuring of GPA involving General Electric Capital Corporation ("GECC") in 1993, Dr. Ryan served as Executive Chairman of, and subsequently as a consultant to, GE Capital Aviation Services, Limited, a company established by GECC to manage the aircraft assets of GPA, from 1993 to 1996.



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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10106 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 9):
Alma which this last one has recently selected GDL as it's airport base and CRJ-200s as it's main equipments!!!

Independence Air  silly 

Well sounds interesting. Didnt GOL say they were making a mexican LCC? Wonder if FR will make it down there, alot of carriers have been popping up lately.



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User currently offlineAirways45 From United Kingdom, joined May 2000, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10080 times:

Not the first time the Ryan family have expanded their taste for aviation to exotic parts.

Tony Ryan is a backer of Tiger Airways based in Singapore owning 16% of the airline.


Airways45


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10080 times:

Interesting!!! Ryanair from Ireland! What is that market or things all new LoCo's in the Mexican market are seeing that we don't??!! Why so many interest now!!

Is Mexico finally having it's China and India moment??!!

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineIRelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10080 times:

bugmenot.com will get you a login to reforma.com

-IR


User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3045 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10002 times:

Wow another LCC for Mexico. What number is this???  biggrin  Its good to see Mexico get attention for investment in airlines. But how many airlines can Mexico handle?? Some how it feels like its starting to get saturated even if some of the airlines have yet to take off or have large fleets. Time will tell who goes and who will stay.

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 9):
Keep them coming!!! Hopefully they choose B737NGs!!! No more Airbus please!!! Enough with the +90 so far projected for Volaris and Interjet....!!!

I hope so too. I bet they will be 738s.  silly 


User currently offlineEdelag From Mexico, joined Dec 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9932 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 17):
Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 9):
Keep them coming!!! Hopefully they choose B737NGs!!! No more Airbus please!!! Enough with the +90 so far projected for Volaris and Interjet....!!!

I hope so too. I bet they will be 738s.

Its not that we hate Airbus I do like Airbus I enjoy those flights of MX to MEX on them. But after seeing them for a while you kind of get tired of them.



It's not just the destination, it's the journey.
User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3045 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9890 times:

Quoting Edelag (Reply 18):
Its not that we hate Airbus I do like Airbus I enjoy those flights of MX to MEX on them. But after seeing them for a while you kind of get tired of them.

Exactly!! We will have enough of airbus in Mexico for single aisle airplanes. We need more Boeing. The Airbus that we need in Mexico are the widebodies.  biggrin 


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9778 times:

I read this in another forum!

Company name: Aeroenlaces Nacionales S.A de C.V. Will launch flights with 3 A320s plus 10 A320s more by 2007 based @ GDL.

Sadly for me, one more lost for Boeing!!! If all t his true, with Interjet, Volaris and Aeroenlaces it's now over +100 Airbus 320s for Mexico!!!! Add to that Mexicana plus all orders to follow...!!!

ghost77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineBilly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9660 times:

This is actually not Ryaniar, but a bunch or FR folks setting something up in Mexico. The company is Crescent Plane Consult. Some of their personnel were involved in Air Asia.

They are planning Q3 start-up (better get a move on), base selection is not complete (they are doing the rounds of the Mexican regions looking for government funding for the base), they will have 10 planes within 2 years. I know that they are planning OAX and VER service but they are after a 10 year deal from the airports.

The decision on which airport to use as a base should be complete by next month, so they say.

This comes direct from both the company and airports that have been approached.


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9621 times:

It doesn't matter if its the Irish Ryan or American Ryan. They will saturate the market. Airlines like Aerocalifornia who are struggling at this point won't know what to do to stay alive.

However, very interesting news......


User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 9477 times:

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 20):
Company name: Aeroenlaces Nacionales S.A de C.V. Will launch flights with 3 A320s plus 10 A320s more by 2007 based @ GDL.

There is a bus company ETN "Enlaces Terrestres Nacionales" quietly strong on the Guadalajara market.



Over 80 years in business say a lot about success
User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 9455 times:

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 11):

Ah, yeah i get it now. thanks  Smile
Dominic



ALITALIA,All Landings In Torino, All Luggage In Athens ;)
25 Ghost77 : Confirmed! It will be Aeroenlaces Nacionales. I don't know but I really like the name! Finally something in Spanish and traditional, like all names we
26 Post contains links EI787 : Here's a short article from RTE (Ireland's Public Service Broadcaster) about the rumours. http://www.rte.ie/business/2006/0223/ryanair.html?rss It bas
27 Pzurita1 : Friends, Bear in mind that there were 63.3 millions pax in 2004 traveling by road using a Executive Bus services (First Class) whose rates are pretty
28 Juventus : I do like the part about them setting up in GDL, take some of the load off MEX and TLC. I wonder how MX and AM are going to take these news? probably
29 EddieDude : This project is headed by the former owner of BanCrecer, an Alcántara guy. It seems he is now the person in charge of the financing of the Madrazo pr
30 Post contains links Pzurita1 : Want to know a little bit more about this Mr. Alcántara? This article (only in Spanish) give you a good idea about how he likes to do business. Not
31 Anthsaun : So far we have LCC based at: MEX ............ Azteca TLC ............ Interjet, Volaris MTY ........... Aviacsa GDL..............Aeroenlaces TIJ......
32 EddieDude : Tony, Vueling is the Spanish low-cost carrier conceived by one of jetBlue's owners. The TIJ-based airline is A Volar. Pedro, thanks for the interestin
33 Anthsaun : Thanx for the data, Eddie.
34 BDKLEZ : Update - Tuesday 28 February 2006 RYANAIR FOUNDER CONFIRMS LOW-COST MEXICAN JOINT VENTURE The founding family of low-cost European airline Ryanair con
35 Gearup380 : Heard that Brazilian GOL is planning to set up some sort of Mexican subsidiary. Is there some truth in it?
36 Post contains images Columba : The Airbus A320 was supposed to be the Volkswagen Beetle for Mexican aviation
37 Post contains images Edelag : And the Germans were supposed to manufacture it.
38 AM744 : There was an interview with IAMSA president last night. He said they were about to choose the base airport, that Toluca was the most likely, and that
39 Post contains images Fly727 : Guess you forgot Click my friend. Also, Aviacsa is based out of MEX as well. Is Vueling the same as AVolar? Sorry to disappoint you but I heard that
40 Pzurita1 : As far as I know, Aviacsa HQ, CEO, CFO and COO are based in MTY, more precisely in San Pedro Garza García PZ
41 FATFlyer : Mexico allows foreign ownership up to 49%?? I thought it was lower.
42 EddieDude : It only allows up to 25% of foreign ownership of voting stock. Foreign investors can obtain a favorable ruling from the Foreign Investment Commission
43 FATFlyer : Thanks.
44 NAVEGA : Any bets as to who will be the first of these 7 or 8 new LCCs who will not survive. This happened in the USA about 20 years ago and they are almost al
45 Pzurita1 : NAVEGA, We can learn from history. The banking system privatization during late 1980's shows a similar patern. "Solid" industrial groups decided to v
46 Ghost77 : I think we don’t have to be pessimistic; all we have to do is wait and see how the market will adjust in the following months with all this flood of
47 Post contains images Fly727 : And most important; yours truly also live in San Peter. But I stand on my comment, operationally, Aviacsa is based also out of MEX. Amen to that. Nic
48 Post contains links Juventus : So is this airline going to be called Aerobus or Aeroenlaces? http://www.aeroenlaces.com/aeroenlaces/ They are looking for everything by the way. Pilo
49 Post contains images FLY2HMO : Don't forget HMO!!! Although with AM's monopoly there really isn't that much more room. That sounds really corny...
50 Post contains images Fly727 : I agree. But not much more names available. We'll probably start naming them after rythms just like Tango, Jazz and Song did... AeroBachata, Aeroline
51 Post contains images JoseMEX : Rumor has it that, not to be outdone, JR will be changing their name to "Quebradita"  [Edited 2006-03-02 05:22:43]
52 YVRlonghauler : No one has mentioned the effects that all of these new LCCs start-ups have. It is obvious that a number of airports in Mexico will need some serious r
53 IBERIA747 : LMFAO. I haven't been able to stop laughing after reading all that!!!. With that touch of "picardía" it will be quite an experience to try those mex
54 MTYFREAK : of course not, we've never been ready, why would we be now???
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