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AA/AE And The CRJ-700  
User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

Just wondering why did AE go for the CRJ-700? They already have ERJ-135/140/145. Anyways I like it alot especially since it has winglets  Smile Although I have seen it only 3 times (x2 LAX-XNA, x1 BTR-ORD) What routes does it fly besides DFW-ROC/SYR/BUF/NAS/SBA/GSO/TYS/CLE/OKC and ORD-BTR/YUL.


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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11752 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4476 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
Just wondering why did AE go for the CRJ-700? They already have ERJ-135/140/145.

Eagle wanted/needed a 70-seat airplane to replace the ATR72s out of DFW and ORD. At the time, as now, there was no way to get an ERJ-145 stretch to fit the requirements, so they knew they would have to go with a different airframe. At the time, the Embraer 170 was not available, so the CRJ-700 it was.


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4396 times:

Thanks Commavia for the info  Smile


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User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1353 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

I think they also do DFW-SAV but I could be wrong with the CR7.


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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4520 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4238 times:

I've flown on the AE CRJ-700 ORD-MKE. Nice plane, especially since the windows are a bit higher up the wall, so it is in fact possible to see out the window, unlike the CRJ-100 and CRJ-200.

User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7506 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4192 times:

They also fly ORD-ROC along with DFW-ROC.


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User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 3):
think they also do DFW-SAV but I could be wrong with the CR7.

Nope...4 total ERJ-145 flights...DFW-SAV-DFW


User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4131 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
What routes does it fly besides DFW-ROC/SYR/BUF/NAS/SBA/GSO/TYS/CLE/OKC and ORD-BTR/YUL.

Corrections:DFW-TYS all ERJ..DFW-GSO 2 ERJ 1 MD-80...ORD-YUL..No CR7s.

Current flights out of ORD:
ORD-ATL
ORD-BTR
ORD-BUF
ORD-BWI
ORD-CLE
ORD-CMH
ORD-COS
ORD-DCA
ORD-HPN
ORD-LIT (Starting Mar 2)
ORD-MEM (Starting Mar 2)
ORD-MSP
ORD-NAS
ORD-PHL
ORD-XNA

Current flights out of DFW:
DFW-BTR (Sat/Sun Only)
DFW-BUF
DFW-CLE
DFW-DSM
DFW-LBB
DFW-LIT
DFW-MDW
DFW-MSP
DFW-MTJ
DFW-NAS
DFW-OKC
DFW-ORF
DFW-PIT
DFW-ROC
DFW-SBA
DFW-SYR
DFW-TUL
DFW-XNA

No Current CR7 flights out of MIA.

Quoting United_fan (Reply 5):
They also fly ORD-ROC

Sorry..They don't all ER4s.

Yes...American Airlines (Desktop) Worldwide Timetable is GREAT!  Smile


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5428 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4100 times:

You missed ORD-BNA.

And there's at least one odd non-ORD/DFW which is LAX-XNA.


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User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 8):
You missed ORD-BNA.

No I didn't..
ORD-BNA 6 ERJ flights..1 MD-80 flight. Did miss LAX-XNA though.


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5428 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4052 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 9):
No I didn't..
ORD-BNA 6 ERJ flights..1 MD-80 flight. Did miss LAX-XNA though.

Yeah, looks like they changed equipment on 4th Feb on the ORD-BNA flight.

Jimbo



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User currently offlineN276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

A general question to anyone out here........Is Eagle happy with the performance of the CRJ-700? CASM, low down time due to MX, fuel consumption, customer satisfaction, etc??? Embraer has the new 170's and bigger. If MQ is unhappy with the 700's, could they be interested in aquiring the new E jets?


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26601 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Quoting N276AASTT (Reply 11):
Is Eagle happy with the performance of the CRJ-700? CASM, low down time due to MX, fuel consumption, customer satisfaction, etc???

I would assume that they are, given that it is a far better jet economically and comfortwise than the CRJ-200, and certainly better economically than their ERJ-135/140/145s as well.

Quoting N276AASTT (Reply 11):
Embraer has the new 170's and bigger. If MQ is unhappy with the 700's, could they be interested in aquiring the new E jets?

Actually, I think that if either arm of AMR is to get E-Jets it should be AA. They have said constantly that they need a 100 seater at mainline to replace the F100s (a quiet way of saying they shouldn't have been so hasty with the TWA 717s) and now that the 717 is going out of production and the 736 has crap costs, the E-jets are really THE choice in that market. If that was the case, it would make sense from a commonality prospective to put E170/170s at mainline along side of any E190/195 order



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User currently offlineNoBoeingNoGoin From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3977 times:

I see the CR7 working TYS DFW at least once a week.
Alex


User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7506 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3968 times:

Pensacolaguy,they were using 1 along with the E145's. Must be seasonal .


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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5428 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

Quoting NoBoeingNoGoin (Reply 13):
I see the CR7 working TYS DFW at least once a week.
Alex

Not recently. It's a E145 every flight.


Jimbo



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User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3936 times:

ord-hpn
ord-phl
ord-xna

and others.



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User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5273 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

N1120A:

I agree with you that any Embrear 170s or 190s that AMR orders should be flown by AA, if they are configured with two-class seating. Since Eagle has always been single-class service, a two-class configuration in the Eagle fleet would only confuse passengers.

A friend of mine is an AA pilot. He has heard that there have been a lot of complaints by passengers who used to fly routes that had the F100s and now find themselves flying ERJs and CRJs, such as lack of upgrades, lack of FF bonuses, etc.. In addition, the lack of 100 seat aircraft has made scheduling at ORD problematic, because of the FAA limitations on operations by all carriers. For a route that was all or mostly F100s, flying more CRJs and/or ERJs isn't feasible, but cutting frequencies with MD-80s could lose customers.

The only problem with putting the larger Embrears into the mainline fleet is the pilot contract. APA, AA's pilot union, wanted to fly the CRJs. However, under the contract, a CRJ captain would make less than a 777 F/O. Management believes that no captain should make less money than an F/O.

APA's position was that a 777 F/O was not likely to upgrade to captain on the CRJ. More likely, he would go no lower than MD-80. On the other hand, an F/O flying MD-80 or 737 would receive a pay increase, if he moved up to captain on the CRJ.

The pay scales are based on aircraft weight, so much would depend on the weight of the 170 and 190. If they are heavy enough that a junior captain would earn more than a 777 F/O, then management doesn't have deal with the issue. If the weight presents the same problem as the CRJs, then the APA must devise a solution that is acceptable to management.


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