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AS Question, From The Late 80's  
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4304 posts, RR: 12
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

Hello guys,
I was just wondering, during the late 80's, did AS have direct flights ANC-LAX?
Or it was still a stop in SEA?
What type of equipment?
If not AS, who flew the ANC-LAX route non-stop, again what equip. and when?

Thanks a bunch.

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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

First thing, direct flights and nonstop flights are two things. Direct flights, yes they did, flights that offer same plane, same flight number service between two cities with enroute stops. Most often, AS flights stopped enroute at SEA, one additional flight made an additional stop in PDX as well. Back in the late 80's, AS offered most ANC service on their B727 fleet and that was gradually replaced with the B737 a/c once the 727 was retired.

User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

Not sure of the exact years, but WA and then DL flew ANC-LAX nonstop up until about the mid-90's. The AS nonstop came about with the MD-80's, which had the extra fuel tanks.

Nowadays, of course, they use the 73G.



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4304 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Quoting Flyboy7974 (Reply 1):
First thing, direct flights and nonstop flights are two things

My mistake, I meant nonstop.

Quoting Chugach (Reply 2):
Not sure of the exact years, but WA and then DL flew ANC-LAX nonstop up until about the mid-90's

Any idea about what kind of equipment? How many pax in the first class?

Thanks.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 3):
Any idea about what kind of equipment?

WA used to put B720s into JNU . . . they flew ANC-JNU-SEA and beyond.
That was 1967 . . .


User currently offlineCa2ohHP From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 948 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2273 times:

Kind of off, but didn't AS fly to far east cities in Russia (Magadan? or Petropavlovsk?) in the early 90's?

User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3493 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 5):
Kind of off, but didn't AS fly to far east cities in Russia (Magadan? or Petropavlovsk?) in the early 90's?

I believe that's affirmative.



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User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 3):
Any idea about what kind of equipment? How many pax in the first class?

I recall them using 767's on the route, although for some reason the L-1011 creeps into my mind as well. But I know for sure the 767's were on it most of the time.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
WA used to put B720s into JNU . . . they flew ANC-JNU-SEA and beyond.
That was 1967 . . .

Old-timer Big grin  Wink

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 5):
Kind of off, but didn't AS fly to far east cities in Russia (Magadan? or Petropavlovsk?) in the early 90's?

Magadan, Petroplavoksk, Vladivostok, Yuzhno, and one other city that is escaping my mind. Service ended in the late 90's, I believe due to a combination of the Russian economic collapse and poor navigational aids in Russia, among other things.

It'd be nice to see ANC-Yuzhno on AS come back with all of the increased oil exploration in that area, but I don't have my hopes up.



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User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

Quoting Chugach (Reply 7):
Magadan, Petroplavoksk, Vladivostok, Yuzhno, and one other city that is escaping my mind. Service ended in the late 90's, I believe due to a combination of the Russian economic collapse and poor navigational aids in Russia, among other things.

KHV or Khabarovsk as well.



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User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 23 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

Quoting HikesWithEyes (Reply 8):
KHV or Khabarovsk as well.

Ah! I knew it was something obvious. Thanks!



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 2179 times:

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 5):
but didn't AS fly to far east cities in Russia (Magadan? or Petropavlovsk?) in the early 90's?

With MD-80s I believe . . .

Quoting Chugach (Reply 7):
ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
WA used to put B720s into JNU . . . they flew ANC-JNU-SEA and beyond.
That was 1967 . . .


Old-timer  biggrin  wink 

Hey, Chugach, I remember DHC-6 Otters and PBY Catalinas flying around in AS colors . . .

And I was aboard one of the first 727-100s to use the new runway on Japonski Island in SIT . . . . and remember having to fly to Annette Island and then hop the ferry "Chilkat" to get to KTN, rather than the Gravina Island airport . . . yup, that makes me  old   wink 


User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):

I must admit, you have seen it all (or a damn good part of it) when it comes to Alaskan aviation. My first memory of Alaska was getting off of an AS jet at ANC from PDX in July of 1993 and thinking to myself "hmm, this place is kind of cool." Then about 11:00 that evening I saw a floatplane take off from Lake Hood in the late evening sky, and from that point on I was completely, unequovically hooked on Alaska. And I'm proud to say I wouldn't live anywhere else.

Anyway, enough nostalgia. Those MD-80's you mentioned in your post were also the same ones used on the AS ANC-LAX run before the 73G's came around (1999, I believe).



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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4304 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 21 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Thanks guys, bringing some good old memories back.
How about King Salmon to ANC, late July, early August on a 737 combi, where half the plane is salmon, half is pax.

How about this one; when I used to work in a cannery in Port Bailey, Kodiak we used to hire a float plane from Kodiak to pick up some pizzas and deliver to us. Now, that is some expensive pizza.


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6712 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

Delta started flying HKG-ANC-LAX in May 1991-- far as I can see no US airline ever flew ANC-LAX nonstop until then. Just Japan Air around 1970.

Alaska started its nonstop in 1994 or 1995.


User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3277 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

Quoting Chugach (Reply 2):
Not sure of the exact years, but WA and then DL flew ANC-LAX nonstop up until about the mid-90's

I flew ANC-LAX on a DL 727 in 1991. Flight originated in FAI. Was a redeye, left around midnight, got in to LAX early in the morning. LAX-ANC-HKG was aon a L1011, got dropped after the MD11's came into the fleet. MD11's were supposed to be able to fly LAX-HKG nonstop, but frequently flagstopped at TPE for fuel.


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