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CO/DL - What To Do With A/C From CCS  
User currently offlineSCEagle From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4521 times:

While the other thread is turning into a political furball...

What will CO and DL do with the aircraft allocated to their CCS flights? Which routes will benefit?

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User currently offlineMarkATL From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 540 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4395 times:

If it goes on for any lenghth of time it will probably just speed up the retirement of older aircraft. I don't see any increase in domestic flying as these a/c are from the domestic fleets.

Let's just hope that this does not turn into an all out trade war. I say let's just get George and Hugo in a room, tell them to drop their pants, break out a ruller and get this over with!!

-=MarkATL=-



"...left my home in Georgia, 'n headed for the "Frisco" Bay...
User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4378 times:

I think CO and DL both have destinations that have been on-hold because lack of aircraft, I would think those destinations will get the planes now allocated to CCS.


I don't work for COPA Airlines!
User currently offlineDeltasju777 From Puerto Rico, joined Feb 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4308 times:

DL can use the CCS 738 for the new aguadilla PR route.

User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4286 times:

Quoting MarkATL (Reply 1):
Let's just hope that this does not turn into an all out trade war. I say let's just get George and Hugo in a room, tell them to drop their pants, break out a ruller and get this over with!!

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

If it was only that easy!



Is it broke...? Yeah I'll fix it.
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4273 times:

It all depends on how long this nonsense continues.......if we are talking about a short term thing, DL and CO will take the opportunity to fit some maintainance on their fleets and having an extra aircraft will give the airlines some flexibility......also with the busy spring break/Easter/Passover travel period coming up, both airlines could probably used an extra aircraft.

IF this situation continues for longer than a month or so, the scheduling departments will consider a more permanent solution - either adding segments in other markets, launching a new route or moving up a launch date on a new route, or selling off an aircraft. My guess is that DL will accelerate a 732/733 retirement if this situation is not resolved, CO will either open another Latin American destination out of IAH or juggle its schedules to free up another 757 for the summer schedule to fly to Europe.

My feeling is that this situation will be resolved sooner, as opposed to later......while there is a lot of political grand-standing going on, in real life the US and Venezuela do need vital transportation links.


User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4250 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):
CO will either open another Latin American destination out of IAH or juggle its schedules to free up another 757 for the summer schedule to fly to Europe.

This makes a lot of sense.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 5):
My feeling is that this situation will be resolved sooner, as opposed to later......while there is a lot of political grand-standing going on, in real life the US and Venezuela do need vital transportation links.

I don't know if this statement was true when Cuba-U.S. commercial scheduled airtraffic came to a halt 40+ years ago. Sometime in the 80's Perú and U.S.A. were at situation where there was no U.S. airline flying to Perú or Peruvian airline flying to the U.S.A., I think it lasted for a whole year.



I don't work for COPA Airlines!
User currently offlineAeroman62 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4210 times:

We can all thank the two putter heads in charge of the respective governments involved, what a silly, egotistical world we live in - and in the end, what point is made by this, and who really suffers from this ego game? CO, DL and AA will find plenty of other opportunities to use those planes, and who knows, maybe they'll find ways to make more money on other routes than CCS....so let's hope the Venezuelan government knows what they're doing, because the crew in DC probably thinks this is funny, and isn't really going to change anything in response (other than to limit Venezuelan carriers into the U.S.).

User currently offlineMX757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 628 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4153 times:

CO might send those flights to Panama and have people connect to Venezuela on COPA.

You know what I don't even know if COPA flies to Venezula!



Is it broke...? Yeah I'll fix it.
User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4133 times:

Twice a day:

PTY CCS 1135 1450 CM223 73G
PTY CCS 1945 2300 CM221 73G
and the return:
CCS PTY 0820 0940 CM220 73G
CCS PTY 1655 1820 CM222 73G

[Edited 2006-02-25 10:52:31]


I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineRamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 3961 times:

GREAT IDEA!!!
Fly the extra frequencies to PTY so CM (partner and partially owned) can take them to CCS!
SR



W N = my Worst Nightmare!!!!!
User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 3897 times:

We're talking, what, one airplane a day for each airline?

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 3885 times:
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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 7 hours ago) and read 3806 times:

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 11):
We're talking, what, one airplane a day for each airline?

Yeah, and an aircraft that flys other routes during the day as well. Both CO and DL have the flexibility and large enough fleets to just put the aircraft on a domestic route or use it as a spare. ATL-CCS, for example, is only a 4 hour flight. It's not like ATL-GRU, where if the route is closed another is opened.

Jeremy


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