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US Airways Ending PIT-MIA?  
User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3100 times:

I did a search on this but couldn't find anything.

I just got the chance to download last weekend's timetable update, and looking through this summer's PIT-Florida offering, I see PIT-MIA is now just a same-flight-number service through CLT (737-400).

It looks like the flight's last day is May 6.

I'm not sure if the summer schedule has been finalised yet, which is why I'm asking.

Strange seeing a route that had multiple daily 757's on it at one point a few years ago ... now down to just AA Eagle's one ERJ-140. And with no AA mainline left in PIT, I don't see much of an upgrade coming.


N670UW

[Edited 2006-02-25 03:36:20]

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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

PIT is really get the short of the stick with the majors esp US. Really sad, but i guess they don't really have another choice. Can't operate unprofitably just because they feel sorry for the station. Having hubs in the same state, is kinda crazy....


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

This is crazy if they really are ending this route. Maybe E-190's can fly it better.


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User currently offlineIADCRJ From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

AA when they began the PIT-MIA back in early 2004 originally used an MD-80 on that route. A few monthes later it was down graded to an EMB-145 on Eagle. Eagle has been operating this route ever since then and put an EMB-140 at one point in the past couple of years, due to what i am only going to guess, was to combat weight restrictions on the 145. I imagine that when Eagle operated the EMB-145 on this route, that it was almost impossible to operate the flight with all 50 seats occupied.

To what I have heard, that the flights on this route are often oversold. It would make sense to me for AA to scheadule a second flight or to upgrade this route to a 700 or to put mainline back on it. Especially if US is canceling their own nonstop flight on this route.


User currently offlineVega From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

Quoting N670UW (Thread starter):
I see PIT-MIA is now just a same-flight-number service through CLT (737-400).

I thought the Daily US Flight went to a Saturday only non-stop in both directions for the Summer.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9215 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2923 times:

Captaink, I agree with you on PIT getting screwed here. They've been getting screwed for some time. Maybe WN or FL will add service PIT-FLL(WN) or FL (PIT-MIA). I think both Southwest and Airtran said that they wanted to expand service out of Pittsburgh. I know Southwest has, but I am not sure about Airtran...


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User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

Quoting Vega (Reply 4):
I thought the Daily US Flight went to a Saturday only non-stop in both directions for the Summer.

You're right, there is a Saturday-only 737-300. I didn't check Saturdays at first.  Smile

Still, the flight's been year-round in the summer in years past -- even last summer when the focus city was in place. AA has a second RJ frequency on Saturday as well...I wonder if that will become daily.


N670UW


User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2724 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 5):
Maybe WN or FL will add service PIT-FLL(WN) or FL (PIT-MIA). I think both Southwest and Airtran said that they wanted to expand service out of Pittsburgh. I know Southwest has, but I am not sure about Airtran...

FL already serves PIT-FLL on Saturdays. AE will probably upgrade PIT-MIA because their service does extremely well.



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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3295 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

US put their eggs in the FLL basket with the mini-hub. I've heard MIA is difficult to work with (IE corrupt), while FLL is looking for more traffic. when I visit family in the Keys, I almost always fly into FLL. Easy access to the turnpike, really only adds 20 minutes to the drive to MTH. More choice at FLL usually equates to better fares as well.

User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 8):
US put their eggs in the FLL basket with the mini-hub.

Yeah, PIT-MIA isn't a huge loss. AE will continue to operate the route and from what i've heard US will continue the route on Sat/Sun.



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9215 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 7):
FL already serves PIT-FLL on Saturdays.

Oh, I didn't realize that. Wait a minute, I think I mentioned that in another post about Airtran...  silly 

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 7):
AE will probably upgrade PIT-MIA because their service does extremely well.

For a second I didn't know what you meant by AE, (AE is the Anet code for some airline in Taiwan. PIT has no Asian service...) Then it dawned on me: AE = American Eagle... Of course... I suppose they'll go mainline then? Maybe a 737 or A319 on this route? How is FL PIT-FLL doing though on the weekends?



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User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 10):
Maybe a 737 or A319 on this route? How is FL PIT-FLL doing though on the weekends?

I wouldn't expect to see mainline from AA. AA dose not have narrow body Airbus aircraft in the fleet. No A319s.

AirTran doesn't do to great obviously with the service being weekend only. FL was supposed to go daily with the route but it never happened. I guess we will see what American Eagle/AA have in store.



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9215 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2329 times:

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 11):
I wouldn't expect to see mainline from AA. AA dose not have narrow body Airbus aircraft in the fleet. No A319s.

Oh, yeah. They have those MD-80s... If they don't go mainline, then I guess that AA will add another commuter route; CRJ more than likely...

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 11):
AirTran doesn't do to great obviously with the service being weekend only. FL was supposed to go daily with the route but it never happened. I guess we will see what American Eagle/AA have in store.

I think I should have answered my own question. It's a shame that there is no demand to warent daily service FL PIT-FLL. I guess we will see what AA/Eagle will do. Isn't FL supposed to announce any expansion in PIT? Or was it WN... I read somewhere that both were to add more destinations and/or gates... I'm not sure which ones; it seems that the O&Ds in all the markets have been satiated for the time being...



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