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A380 Evac Trials Next Week  
User currently offlineFinkenwerder From Germany, joined Apr 2005, 147 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9975 times:



Well MSN0007 is getting preped as I write this. Anyone care to speculate if everyone will make it in 90 seconds !

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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6373 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9950 times:

I hope they do! It would be great to watch!

User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9917 times:

thats about 1 passenger per slide per second, thats some feet.


John Hancock
User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9801 times:

Quoting Shamrock350 (Reply 1):
I hope they do! It would be great to watch!

I think it'll work in 90 secs but it would be intersting to see what happens if not. Might be no big problem as the A-380 will have a maximum of 555seats at the moment and not 800 and more as it's in the test

Georg.


User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9784 times:

Interesting, last week's electronic edition of FI reported that the evacuation testing would commence on March 26. What's your source for the trials beginning next week?

There was extensive discussion of this topic in a thread earlier this week:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/2616526/


User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9739 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 3):
I think it'll work in 90 secs but it would be intersting to see what happens if not. Might be no big problem as the A-380 will have a maximum of 555seats at the moment and not 800 and more as it's in the test

If they do the test with only 555 seats (assuming they pass) then that will be the maximum number of passengers the A380 can carry, so I am sure they are going for the 873. With all the things that can go wrong I doubt Airbus wants to do the test more than once.


User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2821 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 9699 times:

I thought they'd sorted out the whole evacuation thing ages ago. They're leaving it a bit late, aren't they?

User currently offlineSmokeyrosco From Ireland, joined Dec 2005, 2112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 9621 times:

is that 873 plus or including crew?


John Hancock
User currently offlineCVG72 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 167 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9585 times:

873 pax in 90 seconds!? That's gotta be some kind of record or something!

Quoting Smokeyrosco (Reply 7):
is that 873 plus or including crew?

According to the picture that's including crew, I think.....

CVG72



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User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2821 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 9562 times:

Quoting CVG72 (Reply 8):
873 pax in 90 seconds!? That's gotta be some kind of record or something!

Well it is a bigger airliner than what has come before so it's not really that shocking.


User currently offlineFinkenwerder From Germany, joined Apr 2005, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9468 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 4):
Interesting, last week's electronic edition of FI reported that the evacuation testing would commence on March 26. What's your source for the trials beginning next week?

My Source is me.....I am working on MSN0007, the trials are set for next weekend, unless we encounter any unforseen tech snags. I'll try to post some pics if I'm around at the weekend.

Please don't believe all you read in the press. If anyone has any questions regarding this aircraft or A380 production in general feel free to ask and I'll try to tell you exactly whats going on, and if I don't know I know a man who does. It's dismaying to see the complete rubbish that is often quoted around this project. Hopefully we can improve the quality of debate with some facts.

Quoting 474218 (Reply 5):
so I am sure they are going for the 873.

Correct.

[Edited 2006-02-26 08:53:52]

[Edited 2006-02-26 08:54:51]

User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9435 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 3):
the A-380 will have a maximum of 555seats at the moment

EK is planning about 650 seats in 2 class configuration.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9427 times:

The scariest part will be sliding down from the upper deck exits. I personally cannot bare the thought of eventually doing it myself.

I hope Airbus will make the magical number of 873 with this emergency slides testr. And if not, then I say it won't be less than 800. Maybe at one point they'll even go for the 900, if they make 873.


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9397 times:

Quoting Finkenwerder (Reply 10):
It's dismaying to see the complete rubbish that is often quoted around this project

Please elaborate, because I have yet to have found a good source for aviation anything. I have always had to gather bits and pieces.

I might even suggest that you start a thread to remove the rubbish that you have heard or seen.


User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9385 times:

Quoting Finkenwerder (Reply 10):
My Source is me.....I am working on MSN0007, the trials are set for next weekend, unless we encounter any unforseen tech snags. I'll try to post some pics if I'm around at the weekend.

Thanx. It's great that someone actually working on the aircraft is wiiling to answer questions and clear up what we've been reading in the media.

According to press reports, MSN002 (which arrived at XFW on November 8th) was originally tasked with the evacuation testing. Why was MSN007 (which had its maiden flight just last weekend) substituted for this test, or has the press gotten the testing schedule and the status of these aircraft wrong from the get-go?

What is the status of MSN002? Has it flown at all since November 8th?

http://www.aviationindustrygroup.com/index.cfm?format=953

http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRHeft/FRHeft05/FRH0511/FR0511g.htm

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...powers+on+through+flight-test.html


User currently offlineKangar From Ireland, joined Feb 2000, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9311 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 14):
According to press reports, MSN002 (which arrived at XFW on November 8th) was originally tasked with the evacuation testing. Why was MSN007 (which had its maiden flight just last weekend) substituted for this test, or has the press gotten the testing schedule and the status of these aircraft wrong from the get-go?

Chances are, this is one of those tests Airbus would like to conduct as secretly as possible, - if it works out, they can present it to the industry as a fait accompli, and if there are evac problems, they have a few weeks to study what could be done to improve performance, before the oficial date?


User currently offlineA319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9293 times:

Quoting Kangar (Reply 15):
Chances are, this is one of those tests Airbus would like to conduct as secretly as possible, - if it works out, they can present it to the industry as a fait accompli, and if there are evac problems, they have a few weeks to study what could be done to improve performance, before the oficial date?

The problem is, the evac test won't be able to be conducted secretly, as a great majority of the people on board are non-Airbus employees and it'd be very hard to keep them quiet!


User currently offlineRedneckslim From Congo (Brazzaville), joined Sep 2005, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9151 times:

The tests at the mock up at Goodyear AZ (makers of the slides) have been full of glitches. The slides have been able to carry the weight, but the bottelnecks at the doors are taking too long. People are scaired shitless when they look down all that distance and see the ground way down there. Lets hope the real thing using other than jr high school kids will work.

User currently offlineA319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9140 times:

Quoting Redneckslim (Reply 17):
Goodyear

Surely you mean Goodrich?
But when it comes to the test the cabin crew will just push people out and scream at them to get the hell out!


User currently offlineA319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9134 times:

Hang on - I just realised.
You mean you're saying they've managed to get all those seats and cabin in, in 2 weeks, when it takes about one week to sort the cabin out for an A320?
And this is only the second time they've done this...

Or is the cabin not going to have walls, ceilings and only toilets and galleys to get in the way of the evacuation?


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 9120 times:

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 19):
Hang on - I just realised.
You mean you're saying they've managed to get all those seats and cabin in, in 2 weeks, when it takes about one week to sort the cabin out for an A320?
And this is only the second time they've done this...

Or is the cabin not going to have walls, ceilings and only toilets and galleys to get in the way of the evacuation?

They have to be there, but they dont have to be functional. The aircraft interior isnt going to win any beauty or functionality prizes for this test, thats for certain.

Quoting Redneckslim (Reply 17):
The tests at the mock up at Goodyear AZ (makers of the slides) have been full of glitches. The slides have been able to carry the weight, but the bottelnecks at the doors are taking too long. People are scaired shitless when they look down all that distance and see the ground way down there. Lets hope the real thing using other than jr high school kids will work.

Source? All the stuff Ive seen on it shows no issues with the slides.


User currently offlineRedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days ago) and read 9106 times:

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 18):
Surely you mean Goodrich?

Goodrich manufactures the slides, yes. But there is a suburb of Phoenix named Goodyear, which is where Redneckslim was referring to.



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User currently offlineA319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days ago) and read 9098 times:

Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 21):
Goodrich manufactures the slides, yes. But there is a suburb of Phoenix named Goodyear, which is where Redneckslim was referring to.

Ahh Thanks for that! it is confusing as there is of course Goodyear who makes rubber! Perhaps that's where the tyres Goodyear is from...
Like Nokia is originally from Nokia etc


User currently offlinePoitin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days ago) and read 9091 times:

Quoting Kangar (Reply 15):
Chances are, this is one of those tests Airbus would like to conduct as secretly as possible, - if it works out, they can present it to the industry as a fait accompli, and if there are evac problems, they have a few weeks to study what could be done to improve performance, before the oficial date?

I think you nailed it. This test is bigger than even the first flight because it determines the MAX PAX for the plane. And I will repeat my statements that I would never fly the upper deck of a A380. I once went down the slide of a MD-10 when the captain smelled smoke of something, and that was as high up as I want to go down. Still, I would fly on the lower deck.

I honestly wish Airbus good luck and success on this, as I think they worked hard in designing such a magnificent machine.

And Kangar, could you please use the spelling checker? It is "official". I mean, they put in this niffy new spelling checker last week and it is so much easier to use.


User currently offlineKangar From Ireland, joined Feb 2000, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days ago) and read 9082 times:

Quoting Poitin (Reply 23):
And Kangar, could you please use the spelling checker? It is "official". I mean, they put in this niffy new spelling checker last week and it is so much easier to use.

Nope, I'm just too lazy.


25 Post contains links Leelaw : Back in mid-December when MSN002 was scheduled for the evacuation test FI reported that: "MSN002, which is tasked with 500h of flight testing, is bei
26 Post contains images RichardPrice : Thanks for that, I was under the impression there would be such items in the cabin, but obviously not I stand corrected.
27 Post contains images Poitin : Well, I tried. Do I sense a question of veracity in your mind? I guess we are just going to have to wait and see what happens. Does Airbus suddenly a
28 Buslover : Sorry to correct, it's 2,5 passengers per exit per second. Why? Because half the exits will be blocked and the "cabin crew" of the final test will not
29 Post contains images Leelaw : I'm willing to accept his version of what's going to happen, at least until next Sunday. Exactly. Apparently, based on earlier reports in the aerospa
30 Post contains images Poitin : Oh, man of little faith! I have been aware that both planes were at one time or another scheduled for this test since November, with the actual plane
31 S12PPL : With all the issues they've had so far in they're testing....I predict we'll see a big failure here. Followed by the USA saying "Nope, sorry. You can'
32 RichardPrice : Actually its just over 1.2 passengers a second per exit, 109.1 total, as there are 8 available exits (16 on the aircraft alltogether, 8 blocked), 873
33 A319XFW : Care to wager money on that? As if they don't make the target, it'll just be certified to a few passenger less. And the aircraft is going to get FAA
34 Aircellist : Let's say that it takes the crew 15 seconds to find the proper doors and open them If the evacuation is planned to last 90 seconds, that should be the
35 RichardPrice : Ok, as per my previous post of 873 passengers and crew, 8 doors, 1.2 passengers a second for the A380, let me give you some figures on the 777-300 cer
36 Leelaw : I hadn't seen any reports in the media that MSN007 might/would be tasked with the evacuation testing until the item in the electronic edition of FI l
37 Post contains images Poitin : I think you misunderstand. Airbus will have to test a lower number if they fail the first test and a retest -- official ones at least. Then they will
38 RedDragon : It might be worth pointing out that Airbus is reportedly going to be able to pre-deploy the slides before the test commences. In the real world, I bel
39 Finkenwerder : I gave up trying to requote/rebut the the questioning of my voracity, and or the other slights. In short.... MSN0002 has not flown since arriving and
40 Poitin : You are correct. The referees will choose which of the slides will be used. They will be predeployed and tested for security. This is to keep the car
41 RichM : Do they do a detailed instruction for the volunteers to teach them how to evacuate and use the slides safely? Or would they just show them a safety vi
42 Post contains links MarkHKG : That being said, the evacuation will take place in the dark, with the only lights being the evacuation lighting system. Also, cabin "debris" (such as
43 Post contains images ER757 : I predict you're wrong. Let's remember each others' predictions and join the post-test thread that will surely appear and see who gets to say "told y
44 Rolfen : 1 - I hope nobody will get hurt 2 - I hope we'll have a video from that to watch
45 RedFlyer : Is that typical of past evac tests, to have the slides predeployed? Or is it something that's been implemented recently? I thought the 90 second requ
46 WingedMigrator : You'll be glad the A380 upper deck isn't anywhere near 15 meters off the ground then!
47 Leelaw : Thanx for answering my second question, I sincerely appreciate your response. Perhaps you'll be so kind, and be willing to take the time to answer my
48 Rolfen : They should do something like tell volunteers: you have a reward for evacuating the plane. The reward starts at say $400 when the evacuation signal is
49 474218 : I read everything I could find on evac tests and can't find anything that says that you have the doors opened and the slides deployed. It does say if
50 MarkHKG : They already do this in evacuation study testing at research centers like Cranfield University. It's not exactly clear if this incentive is made for
51 Aeronut : If they plan to do a cert test with 873 or so PAX, and they are only able to evacuate 700 PAX in the allotted time, does that mean the 700 PAX is what
52 EMBQA : Yup...!! If they test and only 300 get off in time that will be it...!! Of course Airbus will have the option to re-test.
53 Jacobin777 : from what I've read, they get a 2nd attempt, then whatever the number on the 2nd attempt, that is what the cirtification number will be......
54 Poitin : " target=_blank>http://service.spiegel.de/cache/inte....html Good post! I was looking for a description of the test that mere humans can read.
55 Post contains images Poitin : I read that they want to be sure that nobody gets killed should the slide not deploy. I could be wrong. This thing is dangerous enough with the slide
56 MarkHKG : 7.9 meters for the Upper Deck, 5.1 meters for the lower deck...
57 Poitin : Hey, we're just pulling your chain a little. I for one am thankful for your input. Thank you.
58 Phxplanes : I want to know how you get to be one of the people who has to evacuate the plane?
59 SSTsomeday : That's a very good idea, because the "I have to save my butt" motivation does not apply in a "test" situation. I'm sure it applied BIG TIME on AF in
60 MarkHKG : Oh, and a totally random note: if anyone gets their hands on an Airbus A380 safety card, I'm sure many of us here would be curious on what the evacuat
61 Post contains images Poitin : As I understand it, the inspection team screams "OUT! OUT! OR KISS YOUR ASS GOOD BYE. " However, there may have been something lost in the translation
62 Post contains images MarkHKG : Actually, I thought the test subjects were going to be German...soooo.... "RAUS, RAUS, Setz deinen Arsch in Bewegung!" Or something like that.
63 474218 : They can do a second test but the "passengers" must not have participated in a test in the prior six months. So they will need a new group of volunte
64 AndesSMF : This is normal for an evac test. You are trying to get the most realistic 'I want out of this airplane NOW!' feeling for the people on the test and t
65 Post contains links Finkenwerder : I will try to find out the detailed reasons for the change, but in general I understand that MSN0002 is not as technically suited for the evac as 000
66 Post contains images S12PPL : I just can't wait to see them fail to evacuate 700+ people in 90 seconds. And, I'm glad they'll fail now, before they have to do the real thing in the
67 RichardPrice : And I cant wait to see you proven wrong. Lets come back in a few weeks and see what actually happened, eh?
68 Poitin : I forgot to ask -- are they selling tickets? I would pay to watch -- from a safe distance that is.
69 Poitin : While all this is nice, and I am sure that people will try to replace the real test with a computer automation, such computer models are easily suspe
70 Post contains images Jacobin777 : true, but I do not think Airbus would have a problem getting that many volunteers.......
71 A319XFW : Apparently 5000 people applied to participate in this test. So plenty to choose from! But of course they had to fit the profile given by EASA and FAA
72 Atmx2000 : But that monetary incentive may not be enough to get that effect. They may need to go higher, to approach the greed-stampede threshold.
73 Poitin : Does any one have a reference to the actual testing requirements document, either FAA or EASA? I not talking about newspaper accounts but the actual
74 Kangar : Hey Poitin, you're mentioning the lawyers a lot lately!
75 Post contains links A319XFW : FAR § 25.803 - Emergency evacuation Main page: FAR 25
76 Poitin : Come to the USA and find out why: lawyers are particularily nasty here. Thick as fleas and ready to suck you dry. Unless you keep your planes out of
77 Post contains links and images Poitin : Thank you very much, A319XFW This is the Appendix J which calls out the actual test protocol http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...=14:1.0.1.3.11.7.
78 Debonair : pls. correct me, if I am wrong... I don't think so! During my cabin-crew trainings in the past we saw lot of evacuation test-trials; best part was a v
79 MarkHKG : But passengers will probably hestitate anyway because they know they are on the "second floor" of SOMETHING...the emergency lights may also illuminat
80 Poitin : So, who says that the test is realistic? I mean, where's the wing on fire, 5% drunken passengers, a little old lady in a walker, a bunch of mothers w
81 OldAeroGuy : Great point. It's rather like the 2.5g/1.5 safety factor requirements that have been highly discussed in other threads relating to A380 wing failure.
82 Post contains images MarkHKG : You forgot the people who popped the sleeping pills/sedatives and are comfortably snoozing and have to be chucked out of the A/C by that surprisingly
83 Poitin : Oh, how could I forget all those Road Warriors! Of course! I guess that is why the stews are becoming bigger and meaner. Whatever happened to Delta's
84 Post contains images Poitin : It's Wednesday.
85 Slarty : IIRC, there was a video demonstration of a successful BA 737 evacuation, followed by a repeat test where the trial participants were offered a bonus
86 Post contains images MarkHKG : I'm fascinated by the different evacuation commands...And you're right, yours does sound agressive/angry/assertive. How does yours translate? Is "Get
87 Scbriml : I saw pictures of folks carrying their bags with them as they got off the A340, so it didn't appear to be that big of a rush.
88 Leelaw : How many passengers were aboard that flight, and how many passengers evacuating the burning plane were taking bags down the slides with them?
89 Hailstone : Do we have information in this community as to how long it took last year in Toronto to get the 309 people out of the A340 and how many doors were not
90 Breiz : I have read: less than two minutes from 4 doors out of 8. The other 4 were blocked by fire, defective chute or else.
91 MarkHKG : The in-cabin photographs, which showed people waiting to get out, does not accurately reflect the "urgency" of getting out of an aircraft because it
92 Viv : Two feet per passenger, to be precise.
93 Post contains images Poitin : What about ET? Doesn't he get to join the fun too? That's not FAIR!
94 RJ777 : Doesn't the actual evac time depend on the speed of the passengers? I mean how can they base a test on something that depends mainly on the actions of
95 Starlionblue : No double slides? Better than being reduced to a smouldering pile of ash, I suppose. But I see your point.
96 MarkHKG : You're actually right-- all the exits are dual lane.
97 Post contains images Ardian : I believe the evacuation command for Martinair is: "Jump, Slide! Spring, Glijd! (= pronounce als 'spring, glide': it means the same as jump & slide).
98 Post contains links MarkHKG : The overwing exit is like the Boeing 747 overwing exit, except that the slide deploys from the body of the aircraft, rather from a door mounted slidep
99 Debonair : Hi, that would be "GET OUT HERE, JUMP, SLIDE, AWAY FROM AIRCRAFT". bcs. it is soo complicated too should german/english 90 seconds it was shortened i
100 Lehpron : What exactly is considered 'evacuated', out of the plane or away from the slide? When time is up, which is considered, both then averaged?
101 Finkenwerder : Ok an update as promised... MSN0007 was meant to be moving today to the South side of the site for final prep for the evac tests. I learnt today that
102 Post contains images Poitin : I am not surprised that they would try it out in private first, given the importance of the test. Perhaps it went bad, or perhaps it was not witnesse
103 AR385 : This is what I wrote on a similar thread: I was once in a 727-200 REAL evacuation due to no. 2 engine blowing up at V1. I exited via the R-1 slide. 1.
104 Poitin : I too went down a slide in broad daylight when the captain of a DC-10 or MD-11 smelled smoke, but it was a false alarm, thank god. You points are abs
105 4xRuv : I have several questions: 1. Regarding the "passengers": -are they airbus employees? -are they being paid by airbus? -If so, are they doing evacuation
106 NA : As much as I know the people doing this must represent a typical load mof passengers, young and old. But I´m sure no baby has to take part here, or
107 Post contains links Poitin : The requirements for the test are the same as the FAA's which are listed here: This is the Appendix J which calls out the actual test protocol http:/
108 GBan : This information does not sound very convincing to me. Evacuation testing under test conditions is only possible with all seats installed. Has this a
109 Finkenwerder : All seating and systems are being completed at Hamburg. If you know of an alternative plan I'd love to hear it.
110 Leelaw : IIRC, MSN002 hasn't been at TLS since it originally departed for XFW on November 8, 2005 to be fitted-out with a cabin. Finkenwerder confirmed in an
111 Post contains images MarkHKG : Oh, now that is just CRUEL! Why don't you just arm the cabin crew with pepper sprays, and then use the sprays to force the passengers to get off the
112 Mich : No other aircraft has been produced on this scale, existing procedures for testing shoulda been deleted and re wrote. 873 pax out of 8 doors is 109 ea
113 Starlionblue : Why should the procedures be changed? Why should we measure this plane with a different standard than another?
114 Leelaw : FWIW, it's been pointed out in other similar threads (perhaps this one as well, it's now too long to carefully peruse each reply) that 109 passengers
115 Abba : It should be common knowledge that such texts do not realy resemble real-life evacuations. It will not be the case for the 388 nor is it the case for
116 OldAeroGuy : Sorry, I didn't write the above quote. You're confusing me with someone else.
117 AndesSMF : I have never heard of any issues arising from evac test. This thread has nicely outlined procedures, so thanks for the info guys. Until then, lets all
118 Zeke : I was not aware the 743/744 ever had the upper deck slides tested. So I think this will be the first aircraft ever to have upper deck slides done. My
119 A319XFW : Now that would be hard, as a few days after it came here I was in it and it didn't have a cabin at all. Doing a German test in Toulouse would not be
120 AMSSFO : Did they ever say that for any other crash with casualties with any other plane (that all went through the same testing procedure)? it was:
121 Post contains images Dazeflight : Oh yes. You can feel the hate for Boeing and the love for Airbus in each & every "the whalejet looks so shitty"-thread.
122 Finkenwerder : Do you work on FAL, TRM4, TRMX ? If not then I would suggest you probably don't know whats going on. FAL is just about all French and it's they who a
123 A319XFW : FAL might be French, but the cabin equipping is German... So where would they move them for prepping, as today they were both in 241 and 242 (IIRC)
124 GBan : This is exactly what I am saying. The seating is beeing completed in Hamburg, the aircraft has not been to Toulouse with completed seating, so there
125 Gatorman96 : It looks like the second to last upper deck exit slide will be shared with the people from the overwing exit? If this is the case, there is no doubt t
126 Finkenwerder : How do you know ? Do you work for Airbus are you involved in the A380 project ? If you answer anything else but yes. Your simply speculating. So now
127 RichardPrice : No, the overwing exit goes right to the floor underneath the upperdeck slide, so theres no possibility of that scenario happening.
128 Post contains images A319XFW : Well IIRC the tests are going to be in the paint shop. That'll disturb the time and space continuum - too much space in too little time Nah, but I do
129 FLALEFTY : I understand that Airbus is trying to set the test up at maximum passenger capacity (873), but why can't they certify in stages? Since most of the ear
130 A319XFW : You answer your own question. The only aircraft not capable of the tests is MSN001, as it's full of test instrumentation and such. That means a custo
131 Post contains images GBan : I don't have to be involved in the A380 project to be able to read 1. I can read in the procedures quoted above that the participants have to be in t
132 Finkenwerder : It hasn't gone "back" to Toulouse .....It had the test before it left ??? Seats and hatracks go in and out quite easily. Of course you'd know that if
133 Post contains images GBan : You are saying that the aircraft has been equipped with all 800+ seats in Toulouse, the evacuation tests have been done and the seats have been taken
134 Corey07850 : So since this thread is about 8 miles long, has the date been set for the evacuation?? (disregarding of course, the rumors that is has been completed)
135 Poitin : The max passenger capacity is really more a marketing issue than anything else. Airbus is selling the biggest airliner ever made, and if the number o
136 Dazeflight : It is a known fact that the Cabin Equipment is not installed in Toulouse. It was developed and will be installed in XFW, so stop bullshitting us and
137 RichardPrice : MSN001 never went to Hamburg, and yet it has a partial interior with seating and finishings. Its very conceivable that Airbus has done none certifica
138 OldAeroGuy : True, even the 773ER is certified for 550 pax.
139 EMBQA : Yup... the TCDS says 550... but an 11th FA is then required.[Edited 2006-03-04 00:17:39]
140 Post contains links RichardPrice : The 777-300 is certificated to 550 passengers in a 1 class configuration. http://boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_300product.html
141 Post contains links Breiz : Remember that Airbus has an evac simulator at TLS. The test referred to as already performed is most probably based on the simulator and not on any r
142 Post contains links Leelaw : Here's an article from FI with a pic of the simulator: http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...80+evacuation+trainer+arrives.html The upshot of this t
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