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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4553 posts, RR: 18
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2785 times:

Just saw a Star News report that the CO route IND-EVV was delayed until probably May. I didn't even realize this was starting. I guess CO won the bid on the route. I believe there was a grant involved to get a carrier to pick up this route. I assume this is the same grant that ATA took. ATA defaulted on the route. The original grant if I remember correctly was to fly EVV-IND and IND-SBN. Does anyone at CO have any information on this?

This is a link to the story talking about the delay in the route.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...8/60224012&SearchID=73236776842901


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5423 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2748 times:

This has got to be a codeshare, maybe with Regions, which is cooking up some CO flying via CLE. Or maybe they would extend a couple of EWR-IND Embraers to EVV, although CO usually avoids tags.


I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4553 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2736 times:

It probably is RegionsAir. I found this story while doing more digging.

http://www.indianaeconomicdigest.com...1&SubSectionID=111&ArticleID=25127

"In recent weeks, RegionsAir has signed a contract with Continental to act as an express carrier from cities in West Virginia to Cleveland. This means Continental will provide the reservation system for these RegionsAir flights.

This might allow the Indiana airports to contract with Continental to provide the reservation system for the intrastate airline. Bailes said he has talked with Continental officials in recent weeks to see if they would operate the reservation system for the intrastate airline. Not only could Continental offer a less expensive reservation system, Continental's involvement could give passengers on the intrastate airline better connections to Continental's flights between Indianapolis and Cleveland, Newark and Houston, Bailes said. "



Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2706 times:

Why not run them all the way up to CLE? It's not like IND has good connection opportunities on CO, it's just going to be IAH, CLE, and EWR. Interesting, to say the least.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4396 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2699 times:
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This is almost as dumb as Mesa wanting to do MCW-FOD-OMA rather than Mesaba to MSP.


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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4553 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2664 times:

There is a grant involved with this I believe. Thats why they are looking to do it. After they get to IND they can either stay in Indianapolis or catch a CO flight to Houston, Cleveland or to Newark. Not sure if they would code share this route with NW which would add 19 additional connection possibilities. When TZ took the grant it was to fly EVV and SBN to IND. The grant at that time was for $1 mil.


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineCsturdiv From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1463 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2644 times:

That is good. EVV needs more traffic there. Now they just need to find a way to lower fares into EVV so that when I go to visit my parents, I can fly into EVV versus the 6 hour drive.


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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2644 times:

There is no direct freeway link between Indianapolis and Evansville.
Surface travel between the two cities is not quick or easy.
This service is to serve the local O&D market.



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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3814 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2611 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 7):
There is no direct freeway link between Indianapolis and Evansville.
Surface travel between the two cities is not quick or easy.
This service is to serve the local O&D market.

How so? How much traffic can there possibly be between EVV and IND?

This reminds me of when the EAS flights from cities in WV went to CMH.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5423 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2602 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 7):
This service is to serve the local O&D market.

Checking the DOT report for June 30, 2005, EVV-IND is not listed, while EVV-CLE shows 11 pax a day. Neither route is going to survive on O&D and CO doesn't provide that many connecting markets in IND.

Still, Regions is a VERY low cost operator and a little subsidy goes a long way with them, especially if they use their Jetstreams



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2571 times:

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 8):
How much traffic can there possibly be between EVV and IND?

Enough traffic for some Indiana politicians to lobby for the funding....
180 miles, but a good 4 hours, if traffic is flowing.



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 10):

Enough traffic for some Indiana politicians to lobby for the funding....
180 miles, but a good 4 hours, if traffic is flowing.

Isn't that what the I-69 SW Extension in the IN-37 corridor is all about?


User currently offlineCsturdiv From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1463 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 11):
Isn't that what the I-69 SW Extension in the IN-37 corridor is all about?

They were talking about that back in 1998 when I moved from Evansville up to the Chicago area. And I think in another 10 years they are still going to be talking about it.



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User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2589 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

O/T, but the distance from bigger hubs is one of the reasons why I've always thought Allegiant would be attracted to the Evansville market (including one would think Owensboro, KY also).

User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4553 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2221 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 11):

Isn't that what the I-69 SW Extension in the IN-37 corridor is all about?

Gov. Mitch Daniels is saying that he wants to start construction by 2008 with the project to be completed in about 10 years. So there would need to be at least a short term solution to the problem. Once I-69 is finished to Indianapolis it will be just as easy to drive up to IND.



Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

Quoting Indy (Reply 14):
Gov. Mitch Daniels is saying that he wants to start construction by 2008 with the project to be completed in about 10 years

Then that will make it 20 years from the time I first heard about....having to drive from IND to EVV in 1988 and wondering why there wasn't a more direct route between two of Indiana's major cities.



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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

Quoting Csturdiv (Reply 12):

They were talking about that back in 1998 when I moved from Evansville up to the Chicago area. And I think in another 10 years they are still going to be talking about it.

The talk now must be serious enough that it caused a friend of mine to lose about $15k in 18 months on the value of a house from the time she bought it to when she sold it, in the Rt 37 area just on the outside of the 465 loop... nobody wanted to buy it becasue the DOT Was going to put a highway through the neighborhood.


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