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User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5038 times:

Hi all,
I saw this photo of Ethiad's 77W crew rest:

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Doesn't this crew rest seem much longer (and bigger) than others? And, what are those mini windows for by the curtain?

Also, in regards to Boeing's 777-200LR crew rest

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What are the doors on the left and right side? The right one looks like a mini closet. The left side looks like it could be some sort of transport to the main cabin. Lastly, what are all the panels and such at the back of the bunks and above them?

Thanks for your help.

-Will


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User currently offlineJrosa From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 367 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5020 times:

Quoting SafetyDude (Thread starter):
what are those mini windows for by the curtain?

Those mini windows are not mini windows, those are mirors! for the crew to make up before returning to duty.


User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 5004 times:

Quoting Jrosa (Reply 1):
Those mini windows are not mini windows, those are mirors! for the crew to make up before returning to duty.

Then what does that mini-door open to?

Cheers,
Boeingfanyyz  airplane 



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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 4953 times:

Quoting SafetyDude (Thread starter):

Doesn't this crew rest seem much longer (and bigger) than others?

The B777s have two (separate I think) crew rest areas. One is closer to the cockpit for the pilots and is smaller. The other one is further back for the F/As and is larger. The picture depicts the latter, most of the other pictures I've seen depict the former. So, the one in the picture seems longer because.... it is!

Look at here at the section titled Boeing 777 Solutions

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_osu.html

Tony

PS The article pointed to by the link above also indicates that the B773ER has the capability for more extensive F/A crew rest compared to the B772ER/B772LR. This might be another reason why it looks longer... because it is!

[Edited 2006-02-27 21:00:16]


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User currently offlineJrosa From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 367 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4941 times:

Which door in which photo? There is not a door in this photo.


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You can clearly see the square mirror beside the curtain.


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4931 times:

Quoting Jrosa (Reply 4):
Which door in which photo? There is not a door in this photo.

There is, its right at the back of the corridor, just visible  Smile


User currently offlineJrosa From Brazil, joined Jun 2005, 367 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4882 times:

I see it, far, far, far away back in the aisle...  bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 4821 times:

Quoting Jrosa (Reply 4):
Which door in which photo? There is not a door in this photo.

The door in the 772LR pics.

-Will



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User currently offlineTG990 From New Zealand, joined Sep 2005, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week ago) and read 4725 times:

I didn't even know there was that much space above the passenger cabins!
Where exactly is this?
Looks like a double decker, that's a huge amount of (standing) space in the area above the pax cabin.


User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4704 times:

Just imagine the action those crew "rest" areas will see over their years of service.


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User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4693 times:

Quoting TG990 (Reply 8):
I didn't even know there was that much space above the passenger cabins!

In addition to the 6 bunks, the 777 crewrests made by Flight Structures instead of Boeing also have two seats and IFE.

Tod


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4674 times:

Quoting Tod (Reply 10):
In addition to the 6 bunks, the 777 crewrests made by Flight Structures instead of Boeing also have two seats and IFE.

I thought that it was only the pilot crew rest area that had seats?

Tony



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User currently offlineFlyEmirates From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4624 times:

I wonder why they have ordered it? it appears the routes it will be operating dont need it AUH-BKK etc (Does that mean crew will be able to have a lie down on these mid range flights?) i fly on EK 77Ws for 9 hours and we have no rest area. Maybe its in preparation of USA flights etc. A 77W of EK will in september time be fitted with crew rest as the type gets allocated to one of the JFK flights.

regards

FlyEmirates


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4616 times:

Quoting FlyEmirates (Reply 12):
I wonder why they have ordered it?

You mean the overhead crew rest area, right?

Quoting FlyEmirates (Reply 12):
it appears the routes it will be operating dont need it AUH-BKK etc

I assume initially... but having the overhead crew rest area gives them the possibility to be able to also use the B773ERs for longer routes in the future. I don't think it's something that you can quickly and put back on when required...

Tony



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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4567 times:

Quoting SafetyDude (Thread starter):
What are the doors on the left and right side? The right one looks like a mini closet. The left side looks like it could be some sort of transport to the main cabin. Lastly, what are all the panels and such at the back of the bunks and above them?

Thanks for your help.

-Will

Will, if you want, I can mail you a DVD Rom on the 777-200LR crew rest area for both the pilots & the Flight Attendants.....



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User currently offlineTwoLz2Rn From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4543 times:

do most airlines choose to put in the crew rests?

User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4467 times:

Quoting TwoLz2Rn (Reply 15):
do most airlines choose to put in the crew rests?

I believe all the 200LR and 300ER orders included this option. It's basically a no-brainer.

Tony



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User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4287 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 11):
I thought that it was only the pilot crew rest area that had seats?

That is correct on the OEM crewrests.

BA, AZ, LY, KU and NG have door 3 crewrests from Flight Structures and they all have two seats.

Quoting SNATH (Reply 13):
I don't think it's something that you can quickly and put back on when required...

Of course you can do anything if you want to spend enough money, but as a practical matter restoring the aircraft to a non-crewrest configuration would be expensive and require weeks of down time.

Tod


User currently offlineHBJZA From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

That would be a great benefit for an airline to offer a service of this kind to its passengers. Of course there would be a special fare for it but lets say a pax would buy his/her seat like everybody else and book in advance the rental of a private room and use it as he/she wishes. I think this is even more comfortable as the lie flat beds in first.

User currently offlineMonkeyboi From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 457 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4215 times:

Hey there,

we have crew rest bunks on about half of our 777 aircraft at BA. These 777 serve further destinations.

there are flight crew bunks on the main deck at the rear of First Class.

there are also 8 x cabin crew bunks, which are overhead. the access to these are via a set of steep stairs at doors 3, in the area where the toilets are on the main deck.

if you travel on a BA 777, have a close look around doors 3. opposite the toilet on the right hand side there is a small door. thats where we access the stairs.

have a look up to the cabin ceiling in the same area. you will notice that there are no centre bins above the last row at doors 3 and the first bulkhead rows. instead, the ceiling is depressed there....those are where the actual bunks lie above your head!


User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

Hi Monkeyboi,

BA was the first to get the Flight Structures 777 Door 3 crew rest.
Do they still like it?

Tod


User currently offlineMonkeyboi From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 457 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

well i doubt the company likes it because it must cost extra. Lol

I like the crew rest, very 'cosy' and quieter than the jumbo overhead rest. It is fairly small up their with 8 bunks and 2 rest seats. Not much room to get changed etc. And every time you emerge out of there squinty eyed after waking up from a couple hours sleep you can be guaranteed there will be loads of people milling around the loos looking at you like you have just landed from Mars.

I think the nicest and most comfy is the crew rest on the few 747-400 Lites we have which is different to the crew rest on the regular 747-400's. Can drop off to sleep in a flash up there!


User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4099 times:

Quoting Monkeyboi (Reply 21):
I think the nicest and most comfy is the crew rest on the few 747-400 Lites we have which is different to the crew rest on the regular 747-400's.

Is that the large Door 5 one with the loo in the aft left corner?

Tod


User currently offlineMonkeyboi From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 457 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4010 times:

Thats the one tod!

Really big up there and a crew loo as well! hoorah!


User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3967 times:

Quoting Monkeyboi (Reply 23):
a crew loo as well! hoorah!

Glad you like the loo.
I designed the plumbing after Boeing told BA that it couldn't be done.

Tod


User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 25, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3914 times:

Quoting Tod (Reply 17):
That is correct on the OEM crewrests.

BA, AZ, LY, KU and NG have door 3 crewrests from Flight Structures and they all have two seats.

Tod, I was actually not aware that there were different types. Thank you for the clarification!!!

Tony



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