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Panic On VS043 LGW-LAS, Severe Turbulence  
User currently offlineUAPremierGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 31272 times:

Just heard this on ABC News here in the U.S., Link here:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_obje...-crash-we-ll-crash--name_page.html

The gist of it is that a flight, a Virgin Atlantic 747, hit severe turbulence en route to LAS. A flight attendant reportedly screamed, "We'll Crash! We'll Crash," thus causing a panic on the flight. Check out the link for more details. Heads are gonna roll over this one...


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User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 31223 times:

Quoting UAPremierGuy (Thread starter):
A flight attendant reportedly screamed, "We'll Crash! We'll Crash," thus causing a panic on the flight.

If that is true, he or she would have the wrong job. FAs should stay calm, even if the plane was indeed about to crash.

But I recommend to handle such information with care. The source is often pax statements, and... well, no further comment needed  Wink .


User currently offlineStealth777 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 31211 times:

read the article but didnt state if the plane landed somewhere on the east coast or if it continued all the way to Vegas. If it occurred three hours into the flight would it not have returned back to LGW or at least continued to the nearest airport to have the plane checked over. Sounds like it was a hellish ride and experience for some if not all. Just surprised if the flight continued all the way to Vegas without a diversion.

-AB


User currently offlineUAPremierGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 31166 times:

Apparently it did continue all the way according to the Independent out of GB. I would think it would have been diverted, too. I agree, though, pax. accounts leave a lot to imagination. Anybody know of similar reports of turbulence on other airlines yesterday? Haven't heard any as of yet...


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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5949 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 30963 times:
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As far as she throwing a box of barf bags to the passengers, well, under the circumstances you could not really expect her to get up and graciously attend to each passenger individually. Throwing the box was a good idea given the reported severity of the turbulence.

I find it hard to believe she would have lost it like the reports say she did. These are trained professionals, and with the hundreds of hours of flight they put every year, you can pretty much expect them to have such encounters with turbulence with a certain regularity. While no one ever gets used to severe turbulence, I don't think its enough to throw a cabin crew member into a panic like that.

I've had three encounters with severe turbulence in my life. Twice in a 732 and once in a 742 and not once have I seen or heard a cabin crew member lose it. If anything, after the event, I've seen them as busy as ever, going around the cabin, checking the injured and serving sodas or juice to those who were sick. Which turns out happens to a great many, I'm surprised to say.

"Even though the fasten your seat belt sign may be turned off, please remain with your seat belt fastened during while in your seat" Why people just don't listen?



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User currently offlineSuperhub From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2006, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30938 times:

Quoting AR385 (Reply 4):
I find it hard to believe she would have lost it like the reports say she did. These are trained professionals, and with the hundreds of hours of flight they put every year, you can pretty much expect them to have such encounters with turbulence with a certain regularity. While no one ever gets used to severe turbulence, I don't think its enough to throw a cabin crew member into a panic like that.

Well..It's Virgin - AS inexperienced as the name suggests! Big grin

Sorry...couldn't help it.


User currently offlineHBJZA From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 30872 times:

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 1):
If that is true, he or she would have the wrong job. FAs should stay calm, even if the plane was indeed about to crash.

Who can predict his/her own reaction when frightened ? You can be the most experienced F/A and loose it all in a real "danger" situation.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 4):
I find it hard to believe she would have lost it like the reports say she did. These are trained professionals

Impossible to train people until facing the reality ! Even though airlines train F/A's to all possible situation it's still some kind of acting and in a mock-up !


User currently offlineMudboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1167 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 30719 times:

Quoting HBJZA (Reply 6):
Impossible to train people until facing the reality ! Even though airlines train F/A's to all possible situation it's still some kind of acting and in a mock-up !

I agree, try training for combat! Soldiers are trained in learning how to react and think in the worse environment known to man, but they are still human. No matter how hard you train, you never know how you will respond until that moment you think your life is about to end!!! You just hope and pray your training gets you through it!!! Same goes for anyone else whose profession can occasionally place them in harms way.


User currently offlineJumpseat70 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 30578 times:

You know, I don't think they probably took this young lady up in a real plane with 300 other young ladies and put them through the "paces". Dutch rolls, touch and goes, mock severe turbulence as only a crew can do when asked.

"Back in my day" you were rolled out of bed at 4AM, thrown into a Boeing 707 and you spent a couple of hours having the "beejesus" scared out of you so you'd know what to expect.

While I believe this young lady will probably never grace the inside of a jet again, I do not blame her for her actions.

I remember one time when a Frontier F/A from Denver rode with us over the Atlantic. She was having a hard time falling asleep until we hit some turbulence. I swear she fell into a deep sleep the minute we were ordered down. I figured she was used to it since she flew over the rockies daily.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 30529 times:

Quoting UAPremierGuy (Thread starter):
A flight attendant reportedly screamed, "We'll Crash! We'll Crash," thus causing a panic on the flight.

Why does that scene from "Airplane" come to mind, where a line forms with everyone waiting to slap/beat/pistolwhip a female passenger that's freaking out?  Wink

"Get ahold of yourself--slap!"


User currently offlineEFCar98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 30174 times:

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 9):
Why does that scene from "Airplane" come to mind, where a line forms with everyone waiting to slap/beat/pistolwhip a female passenger that's freaking out?

"Get ahold of yourself--slap!"

A nun comes to mind?


User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 30132 times:

Pretty scary experience. Just glad it wasn't worse for all involved.

Aircraft was G-VROM.



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User currently offlineNyskymasters From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 30014 times:

The whole article sounds rather "colorful" (as in embellished) to me. I don't doubt that the turbulence was probably that bad knowing first hand what the ride can be like over the Atlantic in the winter. But as to the screaming flight attendant...

If she did do this then her days are probably numbered.


User currently offlineMich From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 29901 times:

F/A's are trained professionals....

So they are excused from having feeling and forbidden from showing it.

Without sounding too harsh f/a's are airborn waitresses with no specific skills other then people ability and can use a microwave. Some have a decent memory being able to go through the safety show before each flight.

The real stars of the show are the flight deck and ground crew/mechanics.
Anything more then that you are trying to justify the 500-1000$ an hour seat you are sitting in.

From a beech1900 to a 744 all f/a have been courteous and a credit to their profession in my experience but the "we'll crash" statement is not a surpise nor unexpected


User currently offlinePawsleykat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 29665 times:

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 1):
If that is true, he or she would have the wrong job. FAs should stay calm, even if the plane was indeed about to crash.

Even still, what are the chances of a plane going down in turbulence? Isn't it something like 1 in a Billion or 1 in Ten Billion?



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User currently offlineBen330NWA From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 36 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 29466 times:

I am a flight attendant, currently on furlough status, and have been through some pretty severe turbulence. One incident comes to mind, 23DEC02. We were about an hour or so out of DTW on an A320 on our way to PDX, when we hit some normal turbulence, about code 2. We the cabin crew continued our service as normal as we usually encounter these types of bumps on every flight. About halfway through the back of the cabin the turbulence got severe. It was code 6 or code 5 for pilots, it remained this way for about 45-50 mins. We couldn't even get our service carts out of the aisle, and pax had to hold us down a few times because we couldn't run back to our jumpseats or take an empty seat as there were none. When we finally had a little break in the bumps, my co-worker and I brought our carts back to the galley, but the bumps started again, we had enough time to strap ourselves in the jumpseat before going through another round of code 6 for 20 mins. That's when the worst happened. The service cart that we didn't have time to secure, flew up and fell on me and broke my leg. The whole time that plane was just making the worst noises, it sounded like it was just going to snap in half. I was thinking, this is pretty much it, I'm dead 2 days before Christmas. But never once did I show that on my face, not even when my leg was broke and the pain was killing me. The thing is once you (the FA) freak out, that's it, you have 148 people freakin out with you and that ain't fun. Of course I was screaming bloody hell when they got me off the plane in PDX though!

User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 29361 times:

Quoting Ben330NWA (Reply 15):
But never once did I show that on my face, not even when my leg was broke and the pain was killing

A true professional.



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User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 29242 times:

Quoting HBJZA (Reply 6):
Who can predict his/her own reaction when frightened ? You can be the most experienced F/A and loose it all in a real "danger" situation.

I don't blame anyone for getting frightened in such a situation. It is a natural reaction. But if that reactions makes you freak out, F/A is just not your job. Just as Ben330NWA said.

Quoting Ben330NWA (Reply 15):

Major kudos for your reaction! That was certainly an extreme situation. Hope your leg went better soon.


User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1488 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 29203 times:
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"Loads of people were being sick and when someone shouted at the stewardess for more sick bags, she picked up a dozen and threw them across the cabin.
"It was raining sick bags. The aircraft was in chaos.

Sorry, but I find this part quite funny ...  bouncy   bouncy 

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User currently offline777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1403 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 29013 times:

Quoting Ben330NWA (Reply 15):
never once did I show that on my face

I've never been on a very severe turbulence, but if I ever am, I hope fa's on the flight, will be as professional as you were.


Good luck.



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 28912 times:

Quoting Ben330NWA (Reply 15):
hour or so out of DTW



Quoting Ben330NWA (Reply 15):
45-50 mins



Quoting Ben330NWA (Reply 15):
20 mins.



Quoting Ben330NWA (Reply 15):
Of course I was screaming bloody hell when they got me off the plane in PDX though!

If my rough math is correct, the flight pressed on another 1:30-2:00 to PDX with you incapacitated and in great pain from a broken leg? I would have though that they'd have dropped into MSP, or some other NWA station along the way...


User currently offlineRichie87 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 28861 times:

Sounds like a pretty wild ride in any event... but then- I remember reading the book from some years past called "Unfriendly skies", by the mysterious "Captain X", who wrote of various degrees of turbulence. He indicated that nobody had really been through severe turbulence and talked about it later, because nobody survived SEVERE turbulence. Hmmmm.

User currently offlineBen330NWA From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 36 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 28818 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 16):



Quoting ZakHH (Reply 17):



Quoting 777jaah (Reply 19):

Thanks all, I appreciate that. But I was merely just doing my job. Even though many of my peers, especially in the US, hate to admit that we're there for service, it goes beyond that. I had kids and elderly pax looking at me, who only traveled maybe once a year. I wasn't about to make a horrible situation worse by screaming bloody murder. Instead whenever someone wanted to come to the back of the A/C and chat or hand me a sickness bag, I'd smile, make some small talk, and when they left close the curtain and SILENTLY scream my head off till we landed in PDX.


User currently offlineMalpensaSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 28818 times:

Quoting UAPremierGuy (Thread starter):
A flight attendant reportedly screamed, "We'll Crash! We'll Crash," thus causing a panic on the flight.

That is what one can expect from an airline that hires beauty over brains! wink 


User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 28761 times:

Quoting Mich (Reply 13):
Without sounding too harsh f/a's are airborn waitresses with no specific skills other then people ability and can use a microwave

That is probably one of the most banal statements I have read here. I just hope you never have the need of the services of one of these "microwave dollies" to get you out a plane in a hurry. I guess you've forgotten the Toronto incident already?


25 Spartanmjf : I guess that there are reasons why they're not the "World's Favourite Airline."
26 GTTIB : To quote Mich: "Without sounding too harsh f/a's are airborn waitresses with no specific skills other then people ability and can use a microwave. Som
27 Ben330NWA : Yes this was an issue that my crew brought back to the pilots, who were completely busy with the A/C at the time. When NWA found out that it was an e
28 FlyDeltaJets : How someone reacts during a panic situation is not based on how much training they have it is their mental state at the time of the occurance and thei
29 Post contains images Fbgdavidson : Exactly. I find it hard to believe someone who flies for a living would come out with such a statement....but then this is the Daily Mirror, and the
30 AIRCANL1011 : I don't think any of us can really know how we will react in a time like that. It is easy to say that a true professional would stay calm, but you nev
31 OPNLguy : Instead of a Christmas card, you probably should have sent them a copy of the X-ray of your broken leg...
32 Wdleiser : My stepmom was working a flight from Frankfurt to Houston and while over Little Rock they hit severe clear air turbulence which pitched the wings 45
33 Bond007 : No, a true professional would'nt have screamed "we'll crash, we'll crash". Sure we are all human, but she's in the wrong job if she really did do tha
34 CaptainStorck : I do not understand why, if the turbulence was so severe, the pilots kept the aircraft at the same altitude rather than utilizing PIREPs from aircraft
35 LPLAspotter : I have a scar on my right ear from getting my head smashed by a flying cart when our Zambia Airways 737-200 tried to penatrate a thunderstorm over the
36 Tjc2 : Rediculous. On a trip to SEA from LHR, (well I visited Seattle too, and the boeing everett plant. didnt just stay in the airport) on the return journ
37 Post contains images MalpensaSFO : Even the "World's Favourite Airline" is not the "World's Favourite Airline" anymore...
38 AIRCANL1011 : I believe I said that she was wrong for saying that!!!!!
39 Post contains images Iberiadc852 : A true professional. (Sorry, I thought this part expressed it better )
40 Theredbaron : I have been to "almost" severe turbulence and been involved in 2 emergency landing situations, the crew have been fantastic... The first time I had an
41 Tsaord : Glad everyone made it through! Coming from a still nervous flyer, passengers on aircraft look to F/A's to sense if anything is indeed wrong! If the F/
42 Cyclonic : *LMAO*!!!
43 Post contains images UAXDXer : I think I was on that flight! Altitude changes are the first thing a captain would try when undar radar control over land. However, while flying out
44 TinkerBelle : I don't think they should divert just because of turbulence. Now if the turbulence led to other issue e.g. injured passengers and such, then they may
45 GatwickA320 : Quoting MICH: Well...... I personally and I'm sure many others will take great offence to that remark. You obviously have a grudge against cabin crew.
46 Post contains images CityAirline : Sounds like a hell of a ride! 469 pax and crew (which means about 450 pax)...now that's a good load... This LGW-LAS flight is daily isn't it?
47 IAHAAPlatinum : Can we have a dis-respected users list? While I'm all for everyone having their opinion, and I do my best to respect others, this stement is totally
48 Semsem : For people to vomit it must have been terrible. On my last flight on Aer Lingus we had turbulence also for about 2 hours over the Atlantic and it was
49 Elton : We all know how the press can "embellish" facts ....one person sick can become a plane full of vomiting passengers......etc...... I have never seen a
50 Post contains images CityAirline : (I quote myself) No stupid! It's 6/week...lol
51 AR385 : Well, it is extremely small if you have a capable crew, but, there have been some pretty nasty accidents: NW Boeing 720-051B N724US Feb 12, 1963 FN#7
52 Post contains images AR385 : I am really proud of you and wish I would sometime be in a flight with you. Your company and pilots behaved negligently. Due to the huge blood vessel
53 Airman99o : Hey there I also being a flight attendant have been through some Nasty Rides. From YYZ-NAS-YYZ, A-319, only a short 2 1/2 hour flight. started our mea
54 GatwickA320 : I do feel sorry for any crews involved in severe turbulence. I am told by a pilot (this may not be true, so please don't quote me on this!) that most
55 SkyHigh777 : A few years ago I was on an AeroPeru flight from Lima to Asuncion. After we departed at around 1 am, I noticed one of the pilots come into the cabin a
56 Crosscountry : Another "look at Virgin aren't they unprofessional" accusation. I have always found Virgin's flight attendants well trained and professional. I guess
57 Bigginhill : Oh great! I'm flying LGW-LAS in May. Really looking forward to it now!
58 AA767400 : Afterwards, no apology was made over the loud speakers. The supervisor on the aircraft was informed that complaints would be made against the stewarde
59 Halophila : I was on NW85 last Sunday night from SFO to HNL (753). The pilot warned all the pax that the first 2/3 of the flight would be smooth, then the last 1/
60 BCAL : An article in this evening's London Evening Standard has quoted passengers travelling on the plane A Virgin spokesperson said claims about what happen
61 Glareskin : Yeah, but virgins are supposed to scream in other new situations. ANd then they shouldn't scream "we''ll crash, we'll crash". At least that wouldn't
62 Junction : Turbulence is like an earthquake, because you never know how long it will last or how strong it will be. That's why I hate it.[Edited 2006-02-28 22:11
63 Post contains images TinkerBelle : You sure know quite a bit about the US You must have done an interview with them and they turned you down huuh! Welcome back Kahala777.
64 BA84 : I've only had one experience with an unprofessional FA. It was an Aerolineas Argentinas 737 over Patagonia, a notorious place for clear air turbulence
65 AUNC747 : Can somebody explain what is "severe", or "level 5 or 6" turbulence? Is level 6 the hardest? Is it measured in G´s? Thank you.
66 Post contains links Pgtravel : [quote=AR385,reply=52]Well, it is extremely small if you have a capable crew, but, there have been some pretty nasty accidents: The first one hit thun
67 Post contains images UAL777UK : Whilst I am not going to defend the actions of this FA assuming the story is true, your comments make you look a complete arse!..........I only hope
68 Jrosa : In January 1996 I was flying from GRU to BRU in a VASP MD11, I was in the jump seat and my father was the captain of that flight. He was a line instru
69 BWI757 : Welcome to A.net mich, and congratulations for establishing your credentials early! Judging by your profile and your views, I'd definitely say that t
70 Post contains images Canada Mike : I've floated around a cabin, hanging on to seatbacks for dear life a few times. One of my colleagues bumped her head in the lav while dumping out coff
71 Post contains images Toddy333 : I myself have experienced severe turbulence on a Virgin Flight, last Easter BOS-LHR. The Captain told us that the aircraft roughly 15 minutes ahead ha
72 Highpeaklad : It was due to ? mountain wave turbulence generated by mount fuji. Chris
73 Dc863 : My wife who was a SAS FA until 1983 had one experience over Canada while flying from Copenhagen to Montreal in 1979. The turbulence came out of nowher
74 Bond007 : Well, if that's all we can think of, and they're 30-40 years ago, I say crashes due to turbulence in cruise, are extremely rare, and probably some ai
75 Kulatict : well, may be she was referring to the food cart that's going to crash on them or something, not the big can crashing... the worst turbulence i ever ex
76 Post contains images Ptharris : Now that's what I call preparation. Sounds it was handled rather professionally. Honestly, if I were told before hand to expect it... I honestly woul
77 Aviasian : This must surely be one of the most insensitive and flippant response on this forum. I wonder how Mich would describe his own occupation - if indeed
78 AR385 : You are exactly right, but a lot of it has to do with capable crews that have learned to respect turbulence. Sharp turbulence near the ground initiat
79 Onetogo : In the US we classify turbulence as either "light" "moderate" or "severe". These are usually accompanied by an "intermittent" or "continuous".
80 Moparman : It shouldn't. This is typical workmen's comp stuff. I take it that you have healed properly? If not, I wish you a very speedy recovery. --- No, a tru
81 Ben330NWA : Yeah thanks, was a few years ago, but yeah what a way to ring in the New Year. Workers comp was a mess....didn't realize that they took that money ou
82 APFPilot1985 : well "Captain", if they are over the NA they would have to have communicated their request to the HF station that they were on at the time, who would
83 Post contains images ImperialEagle : Oh yeah----that airplane is flexing allright! Don't drop your arm between the sidewall and the arm rest or you will REALLY find out how much it is fl
84 777fan : Ditto - I also don't like the fact that you can't "see" it coming!
85 Hmmmm... : No, this is all a big misunderstanding. The passengers misheard in all the screaming. What the FA said was "We'll cash, we'll cash." That's a common e
86 AR385 : There are better ways I can think of for a Virgin F/A to redeem my chips.
87 UA772IAD : Wait a minute, before I begin... Question: Isn't "The Mirror" a Tabloid? Or am I thinking of something else....
88 UAPremierGuy : Essentially, yes. But so are most British papers. This story was also reported by ABC News, though...as well as BBC News...
89 Post contains images Ptharris : So, honestly.. how often does "severe" or "moderate to severe" turbulence happen? Damn, I love to fly.. now I'm starting to wonder if the train or bus
90 Post contains images ManuCH : I was on a ZRH-JFK flight with Swissair. Clear skies, air smooth as silk (well, apparently). I got up and went to the lav. When coming back, I had to
91 Post contains links SFORunner : Remember this one? 1 dead, scores hurt after United jet hits turbulence Woman in aisle People are thrown into the aisle by the turbulence Flight 826 e
92 Pumaknight : Turbulance has wierd effects on different people. Take me - I have been flying to Ireland almost 3 times a year for most of my life, and it is unusual
93 UAPremierGuy : It does depend on numerous factors. With that said, turbulence can happen anytime - anywhere - even in clear-air. As has been said numerous times alr
94 Jamake1 : Digital photographers are trained professionals.... So they are excused from having brains and forbidden from showing it. Without sounding too harsh d
95 Vatveng : Ever been on a school bus where only one kid gets sick? Doesn't happen, because as soon as the first one vomits, it spreads like wildfire and the who
96 Ryanb741 : Intersetingly I have often encountered bad turbulence over the Bay of Bengal (especially during the Monsoon season). The worst one was on an EK fligh
97 777jaah : During Christmas 2001, I had my worst experience of clear air turbulence. During a AV MIA-BOG, in a 757, we where just minutes after take-off, still c
98 Bond007 : Not often. In fact, what the pax might think is severe turbulence, is probably only moderate at worse. Sure, the VS flight sounds like severe, but mo
99 Jake056 : Call my a cynic, but I am suspect that the F/A actually said that. That part of the story is only attributed to one pax, Paul Gibson-age 30. I would t
100 Crosscountry : I know a few people at the mirror. It is more than likely that the report of the f/a screaming "we're going to crash" was a load of bobbins. Reporters
101 BuyantUkhaa : Must have been some major navigational error too...
102 BlackandWhite : last night on the BBC Five Live drive programme they had an interview with a female pax who had been on this flight, what she said was that the captai
103 Bigginhill : I found this report from a passenger on the plane. It's on the V-Flyer forum! VS043 LGW – LAS 24TH Feb 2006 PE Due to the sale fares Virgin were off
104 Post contains images Bond007 : Hmmm....just like the Mirror report I know which one I believe Jimbo
105 Post contains images Ptharris : Proof that in First Class, you have a better ride. Good to hear from a non-emotional passenger point of view.
106 IFEMaster : Good lord, I can't believe I just read that. Tell that to the AF F/A's that successfully evacuated a burning plane. Airborn waitresses with no specif
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