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Allegiant: Over 30 New Cities In Next 2-3 Years  
User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5803 posts, RR: 15
Posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9623 times:

I'm surprised no one has posted this yet, I was gone all weekend and have been getting caught up.

In an appearance at the Airport Revenue News Conference in Las Vegas, Allegiant CEO Maurice Gallagher discussed the future of his company. Among the notable comments from the media coverage:


  • G4 will nearly double in size in the next two to three years with plans to serve 70 cities.
  • Gallagher figures there are about 130 small cities with airports capable of serving Allegiant's jets.
  • Allegiant struggled last year to cope with the rising cost of fuel, and Gallagher said it would be important to control costs in the future.
  • Gallagher was critical of airports that turned their fuel concessions over to contracted vendors. He said Allegiant has passed on serving some cities because an independent vendor priced fuel too high to make it affordable for the airline to go there.

http://www.inbusinesslasvegas.com/2006/02/24/feature1.html

The number of new cities should be enough to satisfy all guessers for awhile.


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User currently offlineVegasplanes From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 778 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9588 times:

Good to hear G4 is growing nicely. Seems like they plan on adding most of the destinations from LAS not SFB. They also mention doubling the fleet, maybe some of the 26 Mad Dogs being retired by AS ? Or might DL be droping any MD-88's ?

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4663 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9565 times:

NK is dumping a bunch, meaning they would ge getting 4th hand MD80s now.

Itd be nice if they actually developed some kind of network for passengers to travel though rather that just only LAS or SFB.



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5803 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9555 times:

G4 has been careful about the aircraft they pick up.


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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6126 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9531 times:

Hey G4...Alaska will have some Mad-Dog's available soon!

I'd like to see G4 do this. I have a soft spot in my avaiation heart for this company!

ASLAX



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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3412 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9493 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 3):
G4 has been careful about the aircraft they pick up.

well, frankly, they need to be since MD80's not being flown by AA/DL/AS are getting up there in age, hours, etc.

Since no one else has (and the fact that I love to play the guessing game with new service), I'll throw out just a few POSSIBLE picks for new service (I'll stick to the northeast since I know that best):

BTV-SFB
BGR-SFB
TTN-SFB
Wimington, DE-SFB
ITH-SFB
BGM-SFB
ELM-SFB
PLB-SFB
AVP-SFB (if Hooters isn't still doing it)
GRB-SFB
PIA-SFB
SYR or UCA-SFB
MDT-SFB
ROA-SFB
SHV-SFB
DHN-SFB & LAS

etc.


User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9459 times:

Hmm...so what we need here is a list of the largest cities in the US without commercial air service, sorted by population, and sorted by distance to a city that does have air service.
I'll venture Columbia or Jeff. City, MO as a guess. EVV would work well for them, too, I think, although they don't fall into the "currently without service" category IIRC.


User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9408 times:

Unless they plan on doing one-stoppers, I just don't see how the majority of the eastern time zone is within MD80 range to LAS...

User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5803 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9365 times:

Quoting Chase (Reply 6):
what we need here is a list of the largest cities in the US without commercial air service

Not necessarily, many of the cities Allegiant has chosen already have some service to 1 or 2 hubs on a regional carrier. G4 looks for cities that have no service to LAS or SFB. And there is talk of more focus-type cities.



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User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6764 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9365 times:

I predict that G4 NC operations will be at GSO and ILM.. for some reasons.. I just really have that feeling.. don't ask me why..


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User currently offlineATLgaUSA From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9340 times:

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 5):
DHN-SFB & LAS

I just can't imagine that Dothan could support service to either of those. The only reason DHN even has scheduled service at all is for the military traffic to Fort Rucker. Plus, Dothan to Orlando is only about a 4 hour drive. In Alabama, Hunstville, Mobile, or Montgomery possibly but not DHN.


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9323 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 8):
And there is talk of more focus-type cities.

Would some of these be possibilities?

Laughlin
St Petersburg (for Tampa)
Melbourne (or is it a bit too close to Sanford?)

Also is it likely in the future, Allegiant will fly on Tuesday's to markets with demand for more than 6 weekly flights? I know they do maintenance and charters on Tuesdays but as the airline grows, doesnt this practise become a bit inefficient?



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5803 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9257 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 11):
Laughlin
St Petersburg (for Tampa)
Melbourne (or is it a bit too close to Sanford?)

I've heard a few thrown around:
TPA/PIE area
RSW
Other Florida cities including something in the panhandle.
RNO

Personally, I've been pondering Springfield/Branson lately. But I would want more info on visitor demographics. Could packages be developed and enough people pay to fly there, I'm not sure right now. Maybe only a few select markets would work.

Quoting Humberside (Reply 11):
doesnt this practise become a bit inefficient?

Not necessarily. Take a look at schedules for other carriers and you will see reduced schedules on Saturdays or Sundays due to lower demand and the need for Mx. Those are stronger days for leisure travel (G4's market) so they use Tuesday instead. Allegiant might add service on Tuesdays but it would need to be a very strong market. In my mind it is more likely you would see 2 flights on the busiest days if a market needed it.



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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9247 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Thread starter):
G4 will nearly double in size in the next two to three years with plans to serve 70 cities

What about a newer fleet ? I know they operate 15 MD-80s (87 and 83)...


User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9235 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 12):
Personally, I've been pondering Springfield/Branson lately. But I would want more info on visitor demographics. Could packages be developed and enough people pay to fly there, I'm not sure right now. Maybe only a few select markets would work.

Excerpt from the USAToday travel section, I think it was yesterday.....

Missouri’s Springfield-Branson National Airport set its all-time passenger record in 2005 with 888,738 fliers. That number jumped 23% over 2004, giving the airport its biggest-ever single-year increase. “That overall passenger number is small potatoes compared to the big hubs, but when the FAA puts out the official 2005 numbers in June, we think we’ll end up as the fastest growing airport in the country,” airport spokesman Kent Boyd tells me. And airport Director Gary Cyr seems to agree, telling the Springfield News-Leader that his gut tells him Springfield will earn that distinction. “Are we the fastest growing airport? I'd like to not only say 'yeah' but 'hell, yeah,'" he says. "I would really like to know so I can brag about it."

Cyr is also excited about the possibility of another a significant achievement: topping the 1-million passenger mark. “That would be a tremendous milestone," Cyr says, adding that could make the airport more attractive to new airlines. Could that include Southwest? "An airport that has the traffic — we take that into account as we consider airports," Southwest spokeswoman Marilee McInnis tells the News-Leader. And already in January '06, Springfield’s numbers are up 15% over the same month in 2005, meaning the airport’s passenger count could take another big jump this year.

What’s behind the growth? “It’s a combination of things," Boyd says, adding that tourism to nearby Branson (45 miles) and population growth in southwest Missouri play a role. National trends could also be at play. Boyd says higher gas prices may have convinced local fliers to choose Springfield instead of driving to the larger nearby airports of Kansas City, St. Louis or Tulsa. He also cites “the traveling trend of avoiding the hassle of busier airports.”



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9213 times:

I'll throw out a few to LAS-
ROW- Roswell,NM
SJT- San Angelo,TX
RDM- Redmond/Bend,OR
CPR- Casper,WY
SLN- Salina,KS
GRI- Grand Island,NE
XNA- NW Arkansas
MFR- Medford,OR
GTF- Great Falls,MT



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User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 991 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9200 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 12):
I've heard a few thrown around:
TPA/PIE area
RSW
Other Florida cities including something in the panhandle.
RNO

Forget them, go to SRQ. They will give G4 some great incentives to fly there. No Southwest or USAirways non-stops to LAS to compete with either. Would you like me to put you in contact with the air service director?

Tunica might be a new focus city???



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User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9117 times:

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 9):
I predict that G4 NC operations will be at GSO and ILM.. for some reasons.. I just really have that feeling.. don't ask me why..

We at ILM have been trying to get service to Orlando, FL at least twice a week. It's one of our top 5 destinations. DL Conx was going to do it but after the bnkrptcy they haven't added it.



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9345 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9068 times:

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 16):

Tunica might be a new focus city???

You're joking, right?

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 12):
But I would want more info on visitor demographics.

Mostly bus tours. A few more names would need to set up shop there and perhaps real business can begin.

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 12):
RSW

Perhaps too seasonal?

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 12):
TPA/PIE area

Might work, especially in the summer. Or could perhaps complement Ft. Myers...with Ft. Myers in the winter and Tampa in the summer time.

And USA 3000 continues to grow which might put a damper in Allegiant's ideas for services to Ft. Myers or Tampa area.



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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3814 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9061 times:

Ahem* with 70 new cities, I actually like CRWs chances. Does anyone else?

User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9061 times:

If they added some 73Gs to their fleet, they could do some east coast to vegas runs. Also, if they are doing so well, why not bring back the free drinks/snacks? I wouldn't want to be stuck on a 4-5hr flight with no drinks/snacks avalible for free.

User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5803 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9061 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 14):
tourism to nearby Branson (45 miles)

That is one of the things that intrigues me. Also I wonder if some East Coast-SGF-LAS one-stops combined with a few East Coast-SGF flights to fill the plane west would make sense on the numbers side. But the cost of handling connections may not be worth it, let alone if SGF could handle the flights. But given the range issue, until Allegiant goes to a second aircraft type they need a way to hop to LAS.

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 16):
Forget them, go to SRQ. They will give G4 some great incentives to fly there. No Southwest or USAirways non-stops to LAS to compete with either.

I was talking about possible focus-type cities, not a spoke for LAS. Isn't SRQ-LAS beyond the range of a MD-8x?

The thing I like about G4 is they look long-term not short-term. So they usually only look for a few incentives from a spoke city, usually about 6 months of fee waivers plus some airport paid marketing. Those are needed just so the route gets off to a good start. A city that needs much more than that to attract a carrier may not fit the Allegiant model.

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 16):
Would you like me to put you in contact with the air service director?

Thanks, but since I don't work for Allegiant it wouldn't do much good. Unless they would send me some freebie like an "I've been to SRQ" t-shirt or something (and yes I have been to the SRQ airport  Wink ).



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5803 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9039 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 18):
Mostly bus tours. A few more names would need to set up shop there and perhaps real business can begin.

I was wondering if there has been a trend away from that market. It just seemed like one of the few mid-continent areas that would match up with the type of flights Allegiant is trying to do.

Quoting STLGph (Reply 18):
Perhaps too seasonal?

That is the problem I see with many of the potential new focus sites. But then again I was surprised to see WN not be concerned about seasonality at RSW.

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 19):
with 70 new cities, I actually like CRWs chances. Does anyone else?

Good chance if the numbers make sense.

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 20):
If they added some 73Gs to their fleet, they could do some east coast to vegas runs.

True but how would the costs of a 2nd aircraft type impact the company. It is a problem they should address but the question is the timing. It may not make sense to look at a different aircraft until such time as they are ready to refleet.

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 20):
Also, if they are doing so well, why not bring back the free drinks/snacks?

Personally I have doubts about that happening. They have a strong culture to control costs to keep the fares low.



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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8946 times:

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 22):
It may not make sense to look at a different aircraft until such time as they are ready to refleet.

Especially since so many used frames can be had on the used market for bargain prices.

What about the MD-87?
Should they try finding some more?
I know Allegiant they already have a few, what kind of range do these birds have? I know its more than the standard -80 series. But how much more?

Quoting STLGph (Reply 18):
Mostly bus tours. A few more names would need to set up shop there and perhaps real business can begin.

The article I posted doesn't really get into it, so what is the reason for all the growth in passengers at SGF? If not partially attributed to the Bible Belt Vegas?

Quoting CMHSRQ (Reply 16):
Tunica might be a new focus city???

I take it they have their own airport?
But, to tap that market, wouldn't it make sense to do so thru MEM? I realize the NW hub there is an obstacle, and so might gate space....
And then again, with the Gulf coast tourist area being smashed by Katrina, maybe the state is willing to wheel and deal to bring tourist dollars back into Mississippi?
Just thinking out loud-don't shoot me! Heck, the way Allegiant has gone against the grain of Conventional Wisdom, I'd say anything is possible!



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User currently offlineN908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 926 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8913 times:

Eh...I'm not even going to say the city, but some of you know...

Add [insert N908AW's hometown here]!



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25 FATFlyer : Mad Dogs are selling these days at what $7-8 million? Allegiant can stretch its capital a long ways at those prices.
26 TOLtommy : when they announced withdrawl from TOL-LAS last week, they said that was currently their longest route. Since it likely used most fuel, and load facto
27 B757capt : Hooters does NOT serve SFB. Only MCO.
28 Iowaman : They need more check-in counter space desperately at LAS, I flew out on the 19th of last month and I was there a little after 6am, the lines were alr
29 QXatFAT : So do you think it would even be wise for them to take MD 80's from AS, AA, or DL if they are getting up there in age and hours? They would have to r
30 KcrwFlyer : Why? With proper maintenance they can probably fly them as long as they need to.
31 QXatFAT : Well with the MD 80's from AS it might be a stretch. You can just point the fingers at the Execuatives. The places obveusly seem to have something wr
32 PVD757 : I was simply saying some of G4's MD80 are more than simply second hand. There is nothing wrong with them as far as safety goes, but the long term fut
33 ExFATboy : I'll bet you that whatever incentives SRQ offers, PIE would match or beat...all they've got domestically right now is USA3000 and Hooters Air. And fo
34 Post contains links and images TomTurner : I think we'll see them KcrwFlyer. Hopefully sooner rather than later. View Large View MediumPhoto © Tom Turner Tom
35 Post contains links and images ERJ170 : Well they have made quite a few ILM-RDU-LAS flights over the years.. so I think they could do east coast flights with their MadDoggs.. View Large View
36 DTWAGENT : I do know one thing they do not stay in any market that is not doing well for them. They drop them like a hot potatoe. The just stated in a news brief
37 Cadet57 : SOT but how are they doing in Wochester Ma? Plus any thoughts on PVD or BDL?
38 KcrwFlyer : Are they full of pax and baggage? They may have had them weight restricted. I know the CRW-RNO charters stop in ICT or PIA, but were only working wit
39 ERJ170 : They had to do a full stop at RDU.. they couldn't make it non-stop ILM-LAS... so a stopover in RDU for fuel.. and then str8 to LAS
40 JBirdAV8r : I'll throw TYS-SFB in the list for "almost definite" new destinations.
41 KcrwFlyer : I'm Impressed.
42 Post contains images San747 : How about SAN? How about a completely unserved city of 80,000 people within a half hour drove of 300,000 other people, Hemet, CA (HMT/KHMT)? An airpor
43 FATFlyer : Different business model. Spirit basically tries to operate like a small traditional airline. It needs to be efficient to maintain low fares for busi
44 FATFlyer : That would be interesting, would they go against a couple of current RJ flights to Orlando? I don't think so but who knows. Nah. My thought has alway
45 Iowaman : Is this because of having to stop for fuel sometimes and/or weight restrictions I wonder?
46 ATCRick : First of all, ERJ170, G4 would not fuel stop in RDU, it would be more likely in ICT. If we stopped in RDU it was to pick up pax. Get ur facts straigh
47 Stirling : Yes, that makes more sense.
48 Post contains images QXatFAT : FATFlyer: That is actually a good idea. Good idea on that one. I actually know quite a few people that fly the Spirit from DTW-LAX quite often. I thi
49 JBirdAV8r : I think a 2-3x weekly service could pull a pretty good profit. From what I understand, TYS has been on the roadmap for a good while. I don't see it c
50 Post contains links FATFlyer : Rick would know what was needed. I doubt it was a LAS flight, but I do see a ILM-RDU-Laughlin scheduled for Mar 21-25 for Harrahs. It is listed as Ra
51 BHMBAGLOCK : Dothan Orlando used to have 737 service from Piedmont(? not sure it's been almost 25 years). I remember picking a co-worker up there from that flight
52 ERJ170 : My apologies.. I thought it was a fuel stop since the aircraft never actually went to a jetbridge.. The one I saw come through landed.. went to the t
53 Post contains images KcrwFlyer : yippeee You know im holdin ya to it
54 Post contains images Mke717spotter : a daily flight to orlando or las vegas would work from MKE id imagine
55 Post contains images KcrwFlyer : Come on... You know you just want NW to upgrade the routes to a330s. Seriously, NW would fight that to death.
56 MAH4546 : Allegiant aims for under-utlized airports, not well served markets. Also, Allegiant doesn't operate daily flights. They don't fly on Tuesdays.
57 ATCRick : I know. The pressure is unbearable. No sir my apologies are in order. I guess I take this stuff too seriously. I respect your posts in this forum. Pl
58 KcrwFlyer : ATCRick, What were you saying about models earlier? I sent you my e mail.
59 Jetpixx : I honestly don't know much about G4, but they intrigue me quite a bit. Why do they not go the way of the airlines from back in the day and tag on citi
60 Post contains images CMHSRQ : With TPA all of 4 miles away nothing succeeds in PIE. Just look at the D-Rays Can anyone name an airline that has lasted more then 10 years in PIE ot
61 PVD757 : I agree with this statement completely. Having said that, I wonder if HVN might be runway challenged to SFB???[Edited 2006-03-01 15:02:04]
62 ATCRick : I would have to run the numbers. But I hope we don't choose Crime Haven as a destination. Although getting some Yale money is appealing.
63 Boeingguy1 : ...Wrong. Allegiant operates MD-82/MD-83, correct? If so... (Direct from Boeing's website) MD-82: Range: 2,060 Nautical Miles MD-83: Range: 2,504 Nau
64 ATCRick : You gotta love when a small airline like G4 has a thread with over 60 posts. Jeb94, where are you?
65 CIDflyer : this could be interesting, I wonder which city could be used...PNS? VPS? PFN? the panhandle has been increasing in popularity with a lot of people fr
66 ATCRick : No sir. First of all, G4 has only MD83's and MD87's. And those ranges may be true, if the aircraft is empty. G4 operates LAN-LAS(over 1600 nm), and h
67 Starrion : Let me throw out another- DL is getting rid of 16 MD-90's which don't fit into their fleet. The MD-90 fleet isn't well liked but they have efficient e
68 Post contains links FATFlyer : Rick I think he got the numbers here: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/md-80/product.html The same numbers are on a.net aircraft info also. But you w
69 PVD757 : 5600 foor runway (no gradiant). I'd assume the -83 would have the better field performance. The 10,000 lb contaminated runway penalty during the wint
70 CMHSRQ : ATC Rick, What dispatch software do you use?
71 ATCRick : Navtech
72 Mkirch72 : The problem with PIE is marketing. I live in St. Pete and work on the other side of Tampa -- only 28 miles away. However most people who live over the
73 ATCRick : FATFlyer, thanx for the info. Again, send me ur address so I can send your models.
74 FATFlyer : Rick, check the email you have linked from a.net, I sent it to you a couple of hours ago.
75 Stirling : You might be remembering a Southern/Republic DC-9, because, as far as I know, Piedmont, even at their most massive (pre-US) never flew into Dothan. C
76 ATCRick : Please send it again as I did not receive it.
77 BHMBAGLOCK : I certainly could be wrong on a/c or even airline - it's been a while; probably Republic. I do remember half or more of the flight going directly to
78 Post contains images KELPkid : FAT chance of that one happening (pun intended ). The second cities in NM that are likely to be considered for service anytime soon: SAF - Santa Fe,
79 KcrwFlyer : I think the 87 has better performance.
80 Tsnamm : [ I agree completely...even Salisbury Md...can a commercial carrier operate out of Dover De.? That would be interesting...the runways would be long en
81 Mke717spotter : i dont think so....NW has been on the downfall here in MKE for a while now, the only non hub cities they fly to are MCO, LGA, LAX, and LAS which was
82 MtnWest1979 : Would be nice to see a member of the DC-9 family back into Santa Fe. Long time since Texas Internationals DC-9 and Convairs were there. Nothing like
83 ATCRick : You are correct. The 87 is a little rocket ship because it has the same engines as the 83. And I corrected a wrong today by adding you to my respecte
84 Post contains images KELPkid : The general area is what I meant. Trust me, I lived there from 1990-1998 (and even got my Bachelor of Science from NMSU-Go Aggies ) RE: a control tow
85 ExFATboy : Which is exactly why PIE will offer G4 just about anything they want to fly there. SRQ is growing nicely right now, PIE is desperate. True, but if G4
86 MtnWest1979 : I see the only field Allegiant flies regularly into without a tower is Fort Collins/Loveland,CO (FNL). There are a few Colorado airports with the sea
87 FlyPeoria : I would love to see that route return! If the DL vs. FL fight at nearby BMI results in the latter pulling out, I can see G4 returning to the PIA-SFB
88 Sunking737 : Boy I sure love this posting, I think this is the most we talked about G4 at great length. Could they turn around and get new 737NG's. -700 & -800 mix
89 Post contains links Flyinryan99 : This actually never happened or rarely did. The aircraft would be routed LAS-TOL-SFB-RFD-SFB-TOL-LAS. I thought they would do that too but from the w
90 Wedgetail737 : Could Olympia, WA airport handle an MD-80? It's probably not possible. But Olympia did have pax service not too long ago with Big Sky.
91 Iowaman : Would be nice, however secondhand MD-80's nice 'n cheap work fine for them right now. OLM's longest runway is 5500', I don't think it would work.
92 G4resagent : We are asked for Tampa all the time. And then there are the people who call who want to fly from TOL to LAN. How long of a drive is that? 118 miles by
93 Post contains images Ouboy79 : Have you seen Michigan drivers lately? That'll answer your question.
94 Coronado990 : Except for the lack of a terminal. The one there now is smaller than a 2 bedroom house. Ticket counters are in trailers. Also, the 4900' runway has a
95 PVD757 : I caould see G4 opening up a few routes out of PIE and/or PBI... The SRQ suggestion in an earlier post could work as well.
96 ERAUgrad02 : We grounded handled these flights at ASA. Was great working something other than crj's and emb-120 at that time. i do hope the come back to ILM. We l
97 Stirling : Sounds like the way Ontario was for a million years. It could work. It's only 205nm CLD-LAS. That North County area is ripe for something like this.
98 Wedgetail737 : Iowaman, why wouldn't OLM work with a 5500-foot runway? SNA is only 5700 feet long and it handled MD-80 flights to DEN, ORD and DFW easily. The weathe
99 Post contains links FATFlyer : This thread just doesn't look right sitting so close to 100 posts. So I'll add one more if someone else will. One way Allegiant is looking to build it
100 Flyinryan99 : There's quite a few places they could do that, especially here in the Midwest. SBN - Notre Dame; LAN - MSU, UM; TOL - UT, BG, UM. The list could go on
101 Post contains images FATFlyer : And Flyinryan99 gets reply 100 on this thread. Just shows how much interest G4 is generating.
102 Post contains images KELPkid : " target=_blank>http://www.noticias.info/asp/aspComu...src=0 Using this logic, then, LRU, via the tapping of New Mexico State University (15,000 enrol
103 Sunking737 : Either alot of interest in G4 or everyone is tired of all the other topics that seem to keep getting repeated all the time. I am now a very big G4 fan
104 Iowaman : 5500 foot runway + 2 1/2 hour or so flight in an MD-80.. I think there would be some payload restrictions. Not saying it isn't possible (as you said
105 Post contains images CRJ900 : Didn't Allegiant lease MD-80s from SAS? If so, I'm sure they can lease many more, as SAS (according to rumours) have too many aircraft now (and will g
106 DeltaRules : How about LCK-SFB/LAS? I don't know how successful the flights were before, but Southeast did LAS-LCK-ABE for a while & Pan Am did LCK-SFB & LCK-PIE b
107 B757capt : I have heard they are continuing talks with the Rickenbaker folks.
108 LN-MOW : SAS has informed Allegiant that they're not willing to give up any more aircraft for the time being. But as Allegiant primarlily is interested in -83
109 F9Animal : That would be a hell of a market actually.
110 KcrwFlyer : Would allegiant ever pick up Md-90s for longer routes? I know the engines are different and would require new training and so on, but arent they still
111 Sunking737 : Now on the NW airbus thread someone has Allegiant going after the Airbus. Wow things change so fast I bet the folks at G4 don't even know they are get
112 LN-MOW : I think Allegiant would be very careful getting involved in getting a new fleet. They are running a good operation and will happily operate MD80's for
113 Sunking737 : So that will bring them up to 22 MD 83 aircraft? I know that G4 would not be getting any brand new planes when they can get used at a good price. Are
114 Post contains links LN-MOW : Not sure about the ownership, but here are the details: c/n 49708 OH-LPG MD-83 Finnair, ex-Centennial EC-FVV, ex-Tur Avrupa TC-RTU, ex-La Tur XA-TUR,
115 ATCRick : LN-MOW, Where do you get your info?
116 PHLBOS : Could SLE-LAS service be in G4's future?
117 Post contains links LN-MOW : http://www.md80.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=2666.0 http://www.md80.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=2546.0
118 KELPkid : It'd definitely be cool to see mainline aircraft back in SLE...but they'd be up against PDX and EUG (an RJ/Dash-8 type city). Both are equidistant, a
119 B757capt : Ohh boy ATCRICK seems upset. 757capt
120 PHLBOS : That didn't stop them from selecting ORH which isn't too far from BDL, PVD & BOS.
121 Garri767 : What about AMA? We have the gate space (since DL left), definately the runway is long enough (13502x200) and its a small to medium sized city with ser
122 FATFlyer : They were owned by either Heller or Nordbanken.
123 Post contains links FATFlyer : I just had this article pop up Logan, Utah supposedly is being looked at. http://hjnews.townnews.com/articles/2006/03/08/news/news01.txt
124 ATCRick : Huh? Me asking where somebody got their info infers that I am upset? I am missing something here.
125 DeltaRules : I heard the same thing myself yesterday from a friend who was watching the YNG situation closely. The rumor is that they'd do LCK-SFB & LCK-LAS. Noth
126 Iowaman : WN has a daily n/s to LAS.. don't see G4 happening.
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