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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 11  
User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 7310 times:

A 12% service tax imposed on First and Business class international travel. Will some airline get around this by offering enhanced premium economy which is very close in comfort/service to business class? Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1432868.cms

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The boom in air travel appears to have encouraged Union finance minister to tap the sector for more revenues. P Chidambaram has decided to tax the predominantly corporate and high net worth individuals who patronise the first and business class of international flights with a service tax, and that too an enhanced at 12% now. First class IATA fares (one-year validity) between Mumbai and New York is around Rs 4.7 lakh, while business class costs Rs 2.8 lakh. Hence, the impact of the tax cannot be ignored, industry observers opine.

While the Budget has given some relief to airlines on an accelerated fleet expansion track by way of tax exemption on aircraft lease rentals for one more year, it has avoided any intervention on the tricky issue of jet fuel pricing and sales tax levied by different states.

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User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7307 times:

what's the news about VT-AIM? Is it doing rounds at LAX?
rgds
VT-ASJ



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7273 times:

India and Pakistan to hold talks next month to review air services. PIA wants to fly to Kochi, Chennai, and Hyderabad. This opens up the possibilty of one-stop connection to few North American cities on PIA's 772LR. Link:
http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/feb/28air.htm

Quotes:
Top officials from India and Pakistan would hold talks in March to review the bilateral air services agreement, to further commercial cooperation and to iron out differences on tariff and non-tariff barriers. Pakistan's Foreign Ministry on Tuesday said the civil aviation officials of both the countries would meet in New Delhi on March 7-8 to review the existing bilateral air services agreement.

The officials will discuss the possibility of setting up air links between more cities and increasing the number of airlines flying the routes, it said. In 2005 the two sides held inconclusive discussions in Islamabad. During that meeting Pakistan surprised India by asking for permission to operate its Pakistan International Airlines flights to Kochi, Hyderabad and Chennai, besides the existing Delhi and Mumbai. In addition, Pakistan has offered Islamabad and Peshawar as additional routes for Indian Airlines and Indian private operators.

India, while promising to consider Pakistan's request for three more destinations on Indian routes, did not show much interest in the new destinations proposed by Islamabad due to viability factor. Both sides also held inconclusive discussions over permitting private airlines between the agreed destinations.


User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7252 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 2):

bl@*dy PK is milking traffic to India. Will they open land route to Kabul?
rgds
VT-ASJ



ala re ala, VT-ALA ala
User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7220 times:

Quoting Aseem (Reply 3):
bl@*dy PK is milking traffic to India

I don't see what's wrong with that? Everyone other than AI/IC are milking traffic from India (look at EK BA LH SQ TG AF KL NW etc.) - so why not PK? I'd say "good for them".



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User currently offlineBlrsea From India, joined May 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7212 times:

Quoting Aseem (Reply 3):
bl@*dy PK is milking traffic to India. Will they open land route to Kabul?
rgds
VT-ASJ

You echoed my sentiments exactly!! For granting MFN status and land route to Afghanistan, they want to settle Kashmir first. But for things which brings them profit, like gas pipeline or PK routes, they are willing to forget it!! Don't allow them to milk the Indian traffic till they begin to negotiate in good faith!!


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7209 times:

From: http://www.hindu.com/2006/03/01/stories/2006030118600400.htm

Quote:
New British Airways flight to London

Special Correspondent

Bangalore: British Airways on Tuesday announced an additional flight out of Bangalore. Effective from May 4, the number of flights from Bangalore to London Heathrow will be increased from five to six a week.

The new flight (BA118) will take off from Bangalore at 5:45 a.m. IST on Thursday and arrive at London Heathrow Airport at 11:50 a.m. (U.K. time).

British Airways also rationalised its flight frequencies to and from Chennai. Beginning May 4, British Airways will operate five times a week from Chennai to London.


Whoa!!!

So BA is now increasing BLR to 6x pw (777) and reducing MAA significantly from 6x pw 747 to 5x pw 777 (based on online schedules available at http://www.ba.com)!

Seems like traffic out of MAA is no longer too attractive for BA. I wonder why? Any local BA/MAA experts with an opinion?



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User currently offlineBlrsea From India, joined May 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7202 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 6):
So BA is now increasing BLR to 6x pw (777)

 thumbsup  Very cool!! Tickets on LHR-BLR segment was hard to come by even in so called off-season. And tickets from USA-BLR are atleast $100-200 more expensive than other european carriers like LH and AF. I wanted to fly with BA on my SEA-BLR trip, but had to forgo that option as it was more than CX by $400  Sad

Good that they are starting one more flight. Weren't they supposed to make it a daily by summer 2006? Or was it winter 2006?


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7197 times:

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 5):
You echoed my sentiments exactly!! For granting MFN status and land route to Afghanistan, they want to settle Kashmir first. But for things which brings them profit, like gas pipeline or PK routes, they are willing to forget it!! Don't allow them to milk the Indian traffic till they begin to negotiate in good faith!!

IMO, increasing Pakistan's/PIA's dependence on Indian market will lead to less likelihood of another Kargil and long term peace dividends through reduction in military spending. I would like to see India grant Pakistan open access to Indian markets even if Pakistan does not reciprocate fully. Increased trade will alter the mind set on Kashmir just like it did with respect to Sikkim between India and China.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7190 times:

Can the parking bays at Indian airports accommodate A321s without decreasing parking capacity? In other words, can an A321 fit in the parking bay configured for A320/737?

User currently offlineLutfi From China, joined Sep 2000, 780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7187 times:

The 12% tax - won't people get round it by buying tickets abroad...?

User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7185 times:

Quoting Lutfi (Reply 10):
The 12% tax - won't people get round it by buying tickets abroad...?

Generally, tickets are cheaper out of India. I wonder if rules exist to prevent people from buying tickets abroad if they are Indian residents.


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7173 times:

Quoting Lutfi (Reply 10):
The 12% tax - won't people get round it by buying tickets abroad...?

There'll always be some (minority) that will take this route. But most of the J/F fliers out of India will be from corporates that may not care too much about the increase, and it's possible the airlines might reduce fares slightly to offset this tax (just my hunch).

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 8):
IMO, increasing Pakistan's/PIA's dependence on Indian market will lead to less likelihood of another Kargil and long term peace dividends through reduction in military spending. I would like to see India grant Pakistan open access to Indian markets even if Pakistan does not reciprocate fully. Increased trade will alter the mind set on Kashmir just like it did with respect to Sikkim between India and China.

Agreed 100%! Welcome to my RU list!



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User currently offlineLutfi From China, joined Sep 2000, 780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7169 times:

With ET it isn't exactly difficult. Plus the new IATA rules allow you to buy ticket from outside country.

So buying India-SIN-India (published fare) is same price whereever you buy it. So corporate can buy from their AMEX USA office, who issue them e-ticket.

Internet shopping - say good bye to local sales taxes.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7166 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 12):
Agreed 100%! Welcome to my RU list!

Thank you for your kind words. I have added you to my RU list too.


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7139 times:

The trouble is that PK can barely meet internal Pakistani demand to the UK and USA. Plus, while PK might offer attractive fares would people want to fly PK? Mr Singh from Birmingham may not fly PK even if it was 50 pounds cheaper than EK. Emotions are a very strong thing, me on the other would fly whichever airline gave me the better booze and IFE! I'm a very matlabi sort of person that way.
I saw Indian's second A319 on the BOM tarmac (because both newly painted A319's were parked at BOM, so one had to be the second), looks neat!
Just out of curiousity after reading about the new BLR airport at the end of the last thread - anyone have any clue of how the new HYD airport is coming along?



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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3284 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7125 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 15):
Plus, while PK might offer attractive fares would people want to fly PK

That's PK's problem - if they are asking for the rights, I'll assume they feel there is a need  Smile. I do hope they open up tourist visas between the countries, I'd love to go to Pakistan for a holiday - having heard and read so much about their cities and the hospitable culture. I guess PK is optimistic that the the tourism sector might increase  Smile



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User currently offlineHimmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1047 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7098 times:

btw, Has IC painted any of it's A320s in the new colors. The signage at its BLR and MAA city office has not been changed so far. It should have been done in December itself. Let's take example of another 'sarkari' organization, Bank of Baroda. All its branches and ATMs had the new signage within days of it changing its corporate identity. If BOB could do that, why can't IC?


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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7008 times:

Another airports strike loomingover private modernization. I hope they invite bids for modernising CCU and then give AAI employees the right of first refusal at the highest bid and see if they are willing to take up the challenge. Link:
http://www.talkingtarmac.com/others/patel-airport.asp

Quotes:
Talks will be held by the Minister for Civil Aviation, Mr Praful Patel with the leaders of the Airports Authority of India Joint Forum (AAIJF) in Mumbai on Saturday. This was on the background that the forum has threatened a day's mass casual leave across the country against the move to modernise and restructure the Delhi and Mumbai airports. The proposed one-day protest is likely to include all sections of the employees of Airports Authority of India (AAI), except for air traffic controllers.

AAIJF Convenor MK Ghoshal said that the Forum was not against the proposed modernisation plans of the Government. "we want the Government to entrust the proposed modernisation of the airports to us and also consider the alternative plan, which has been given to them already," he added. Earlier, the Forum's alternative plan was submitted to the Prime Minister.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6906 times:

Reaction to 12% service tax on Business/First class travel. Link:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ticleshow/msid-1434639,curpg-3.cms

Quotes:
Imposition of a service tax on international business and first-class air travel is likely to see many executive-class passengers opt for the economy category, more so in the short-haul. Business and first class international fares are 3-5 times higher than economy fares. With airlines in no mood to absorb the tax, it will further widen the fare difference business and economy-class travellers. A day after the Budget, it is still unclear whether the tax will be imposed on the full list fares or the discounted ones that airlines offer to corporate travellers.

This may even force airlines to change the seat-mix between business and economy seats in international flights, say many in the industry. Generally, 30-35% of all seats in a flight are allocated to business and first class categories.
The government on Wednesday clarified that it’s the airlines’ liability to pay service tax and it doesn’t pertain to transit passengers. While the burden will be borne by the passenger, airlines have to collect the levy, account for it and pass it on to the government.

“An Indian spokesperson said the impact of the tax will be studied in detail. The airline does not wish to adjust its fares to absorb the tax cost.
An Air-India official said some passengers may now opt for economy class travel as the cost of first class and business class travel will rise significantly. “Demand for upgrades will also go up as customers will try to book economy class and get themselves upgraded to premium categories,” he added.

Several travel agents ET spoke to said that many corporate clients are already taking a relook at their international business class travel plans after the tax imposition. “In case of long haul travel like that between India and the US or London, there may not be much change in travel preferences,” said a travel agency.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6834 times:

Rialways may cut fare again to improve occupancy. I can not believe this is happening under Lalu's watch- I am more hopeful that Railways will remain profitable and not be a drain on the national budget. Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1434736.cms

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The passenger-friendly route taken by the Indian Railways is likely to result in yet another reduction in upper class fares. The Railways is open to introducing a new round of fare reductions, if the recent drop in fares, as per the Railway Budget, does not result in adequate improvement in the occupancy of AC-I and AC-II classes.

In the Rail Budget '06-07, Union railway minister Lalu Prasad Yadav announced an 18% cut in AC-I and 10% in AC-II class fares. By doing this, the Indian Railways is hoping to improve occupancy rate of AC-I and II tier by 15-20%. At present, the occupancy level of AC-I and II classes is 47% and 58% respectively.

This is expected to result in cutting down expenditure and revenue optimisation. While the popular perception is that trains run at full capacity around the year, actually there are a number of trains, which have less than 50% occupancy throughout the year. Cut & paste' refers to the addition of coaches during peak season and the reduction of coaches during the lean season. According to the sources in the Railway Board, 'cut & paste' capacity management has played a key role in increasing supply without hiking the fares.

The upgradation scheme moves the passengers on to a higher class, whenever vacant seats are available, without posing any extra financial burden on the passengers. The scheme, now applicable on all Rajdhanis, Shatabadis and mail/express trains, is expected to give the railways an additional revenue of Rs 500 crore. To reward loyal customers, the Railways has introduced SOFT (Scheme for frequent travellers). These loyalty points are calculated at 10% of the fare paid during the lean season and 4% during the peak season.


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6828 times:

Emirates fortifies presence in South India. Following closely on the launch of its services to Thiruvananthapuram, Emirates, one of the world's fastest growing airlines has announced its plans to start services to the Indian city of Bangalore, effective 29th October 2006. Link:
http://www.ameinfo.com/79280.html

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To Bangalore, Emirates will operate a Boeing 777-200, one of the world's most technologically advanced aircraft in a three class configuration, designed to offer high standards of comfort, luxury and style. Emirates will launch eight flights a week to Bangalore, offering a total weekly capacity of 2108 seats and 120 plus tonnes of cargo in each direction.

To Bangalore, the Dubai-based international airline will operate some of the world's most technologically advanced aircraft - the modern Airbus A330-200 and the larger capacity Boeing 777-200 - in a three class configuration, designed to offer high standards of comfort, luxury and style.

The capital city of Karnataka - Bangalore - will be Emirates' fifth destination in South India, the others being Chennai, Hyderabad, Cochin and Thiruvananthapuram. It will also be the 86th destination on Emirates' rapidly expanding network, which includes the start of services to nine new destinations in 2006.


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3130 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6824 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 8):
IMO, increasing Pakistan's/PIA's dependence on Indian market will lead to less likelihood of another Kargil and long term peace dividends through reduction in military spending. I would like to see India grant Pakistan open access to Indian markets even if Pakistan does not reciprocate fully. Increased trade will alter the mind set on Kashmir just like it did with respect to Sikkim between India and China.

You are a peaceful and well-thinking human being and for that, hats off to you...but our neighbours have time and again proved that they can't keep their word....so I'm not surprised at the scepticism expressed by some on this thread....

Either way, in all fairness, if BA, LH, EK and others can try to make hay while the sun shines in India, why not PK? It remains up to Indian pax to decide whether they want to fly on a Paki carrier or not.....


User currently offlineBlrsea From India, joined May 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6784 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 22):
Either way, in all fairness, if BA, LH, EK and others can try to make hay while the sun shines in India, why not PK?

Not when they are trying to kill your countrymen!! You can't say "I want to make money from you, but also want to send in terrorists to kill your people". Decide what you want and stick with it Smile PIA is staffed and managed by lots of ex-PA/ISI generals, so one needs to be wary of PIA. And if it was a saner country, the argument that more economic integration will bring in peace would hold good. But you can't say that about Pakistan. I would strongly advise against giving more to PIA.

And coming back to main topic, Aviation majors in race for facilities

Quote:
Domestic majors Air India, Indian Airlines, Jet Airways and Reliance are also in the fray singly or with a partner for the two awards, which are being finalised, according to BIAL. Each service is to have two operators. The special vehicle that is building the Rs 1,400-crore airport at Devanahalli has just announced IOC-combine as its ATF facility provider — which is the first of the four major facilities it has tendered out.

AI, and Jet Air-Dnata and Reliance-Worldwide Flight Services have bid for both ground and cargo handling; Indian has bid for ground handling; while AAI-MSIL combine has entered the race for cargo handling.

Ground handling has attracted 10 bidders and cargo facilities eight.

...


User currently offlineBlrsea From India, joined May 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6783 times:

IOC group wins Bangalore airport bid

Quote:
A consortium led by Indian Oil Corporation has pipped ONGC-Total, BPCL-Shell, HPCL-Chevron and Reliance-Bechtel to bag the contract for setting up the aviation fuel supply infrastructure project at the new international airport coming up in Bangalore.

...

IDFC Private Equity to pick 8% in Delhi airport


25 Post contains links Airish : Take a look at this website for Flying Returns frequent flyer program. http://www.flyingreturns.co.in/html/index.php Is this website run by Indian or
26 Aseem : talks about points redemption on AF, but mentions LH as the only airline partner.. looks like in developmental stage.. Whichever way, it clearly stat
27 Post contains links LAXDESI : A nine-member panel set up to consider the next round of airport modernization/expansion. Four out of five members to be union leaders. Kolkata and Ch
28 Post contains links LAXDESI : Two new routes announced by Air Deccan. Link: http://www.luchtzak.be/article11227.html Quotes: Air Deccan announced 2 new routes it is going to start
29 Sammyk : There is a drop down menu at the top of the AI website for Flying Return.
30 Post contains links LAXDESI : Trivandrum airport to get 3 more parking bays, at a cost of 2 crores, taking the total capacity to 11. Link: http://www.talkingtarmac.com/airport/triv
31 Post contains links Nimish : Delays possible at the new BLR airport: from http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_...stly+if+Delayed+by+Another+15+Days Quote: Bangalore, Mar 3: Eight
32 LAXDESI : I think L&T should be awarded the expansion contract, without fresh bidding, if they are willing to charge the same rate per square feet as in the or
33 LAXDESI : A little off-topic, but I read today that Hyderabad will have a new US consulate. The article mentioned that 40% of all visa applications at Chennai c
34 Post contains links Aseem : glad to break the news!! The Times of India cheers!! VT-ASJ
35 Post contains links LAXDESI : Air India to raise flight frequencies from Bangladesh, launches price war. Will increase frequency to 6x weekly. Current load factor at 90%! Link: htt
36 Himmat01 : AIX has announced schedules for flights to KUL from MAA. The flight IX 651 will arrive at 8.45 AM and will depart at 9.45 AM as IX 652. It will be ope
37 LAXDESI : Great. More options into MAA. I hope AIX will start a daily from MAA to BKK soon. I am always able to pick up good web deals on JL/ANA to BKK from LA
38 Himmat01 : MAA-SIN-MAA is also being launched. I do not have the details. It will be operate on all days except Wednesday.
39 Karan69 : Himmat did your pilot friend mention any possibilities from BOM/DEL/PNQ to the SE Asian routes.?? 20 more seats added immediatly??? what does this me
40 Post contains links LAXDESI : Jet gets Ministry nod for buying Air Sahara. Link: http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=14154977 Quotes: Jet Airways has moved a step closer towar
41 Gr8Circle : I was just wondering....with BOM airport heading for major congestion in the next few years, would it make sense to convert Juhu airport into a small
42 Post contains links LAXDESI : Upgradation of Delhi, Mumbai airports may cost Rs 20,000 crore. Ownership of assets to remain with government. Link: http://www.talkingtarmac.com/airp
43 Karan69 : Makes theotical sense but not at all practical sense, as the connecting flights from metros would not be able to offer convinience to the smaller cit
44 Post contains images Nimish : I believe the profile of travellers from AP is more "emigration" oriented (once a year or two), while BLR is more "Business travel" oriented (once ev
45 LAXDESI : Good points. Would Chennai still be the counsulate for BLR? Hope they give residents of BLR a choice between MAA and HYD.
46 Nimish : Currently Karnataka residents have the flexibility to go to any consulate for their interview - given it's a 4 month waiting list for interview dates
47 Cricket : I met someone from BD called Max Hunt who was in India to announce BOM-LHR going daily. He claimed that BD was seeing 70% load factors, but admitted t
48 Post contains images Gr8Circle : I was actually thinking of just point to point flights from BOM, which are used by BOM originating pax, business travellers, etc...that's why I menti
49 Nimish : Good luck to BD. But without a very tight cooperation with *A partners ex-LHR, getting any great traffic.
50 Post contains links LAXDESI : 'India to get Rs 30,000 crore worth contracts'. Indian firms have already bagged a slew of orders from aerospace majors. Link: http://www.talkingtarma
51 Post contains links LAXDESI : Air China to launch three new international flight routes, two of them to BOM and DEL. Frequency will be 4x weekly on a 767. Link: http://www.chinakno
52 Post contains links Himmat01 : Air Deccan's ghost flights Air Deccan and travel agents have been booking tickets on a flight which it does not even operate. Tickets have been booked
53 Karan69 : I read in an ad by them in one of the business mags here----"Convinient connections to Europe and USA"---i knew that they could offer EU conviniently
54 Post contains images Nimish : This is really terrible - on DN's part. They can't be blind, can they? Especially since the tickets were booked off their ticket reservation system (
55 Nimish : Ooofff... Why "Old Delhi"? Is this a translation error? Couple of related questions: * What's Air china's 2 letter code? * Will Air china have full 5
56 Post contains images Himmat01 : What does the writer mean by 'Old Delhi'? Is Air China planning to land in middle of Chandni Chowk?
57 Post contains images AirIndia : Have you not heard of the Daryaganj international airport. come to think of it, the Delhi-Lahore bus originates in Old delhi..... might be soundnig g
58 Post contains images Aseem : Offcourse, the metro link of Chawri Bazaar shall provide an excellent feeder.. cheers!! VT-ASJ
59 Post contains images Gr8Circle : Talking about the communists, they should be delighted that they can now get direct flights to reach their masters in Beijing quickly when they get t
60 Cricket : MU's flight from DEL-PVG hasn't been doing too badly - a lot of Indian businessmen are going to China to get el cheapo things to sell back in India. I
61 Post contains links LAXDESI : DGCA seeks rules for transfer of airline rights in mergers. Link: http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1440404.cms Quotes: The Directo
62 15A : On the Jet airways site, they have posted their second double daily flight to london heathrow from mumbai in their latest schedules The new flight 120
63 Post contains links Nimish : http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...6%5C03%5C08%5Cstory_8-3-2006_pg7_6 Quote: Pakistan and India agree to expand air service agreement * Both sides
64 Post contains links Nimish : http://www.telegraphindia.com/1060308/asp/calcutta/story_5821780.asp Quote: Cheaper carriers adopt e-tickets PATRICK PRINGLE With a slew of airlines t
65 Post contains links Nimish : http://dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1016801 Quote: Jet to fly Sahara as 100% arm for now MUMBAI: Full-service carrier Jet Airways is planning to ope
66 Post contains links Nimish : http://www.etravelblackboard.com/index.asp?id=48582&nav=11 Quote: Jet Airways selects Sabre Airline Solutions scheduling suite Sabre Airline Solutions
67 Post contains links Nimish : http://www.cybernoon.com/DisplayArti...le=March2006_inbombay_standard9147 Can you beat the GoAir Challenge? The war between the airlines just got hott
68 Post contains links Karan69 : Did they manage to get another slot from UA,??? excellent timing, now only if they were able to arrange some code-share agreement with BA[their partn
69 Concorde001 : That is what I was thinking! Nevertheless, brilliant slots for 9W! I know S2 and BA were finalising a codeshare / interline agreement but then 9W bou
70 Post contains links LAXDESI : Indian Aviation Ministry Mulls Ways To Connect Northeast to encourage Tourism. Currently Indian gets subsidy of about $9 million to fly routes in Nort
71 DFWKING : With the recent influx of non-stops and price slashing between INDIA and EUROPE, are the gulf carriers seeing the effects yet? Are they cutting fares
72 Nimish : Not just AI - even 9W/S2 & IC are good candidates for these a/c - especially IC - given they have been trying (very hard) to get hold of widebodies.
73 Cricket : IC 747's - Brrrrrr........ Scary thought, what if you get an equipment sub on BLR-MAA, it would take longer to get luggage on and off than it would t
74 Post contains images Nimish : I would love to fly a 744 BLR-MAA!! Yes it is an overkill - but on the other hand they have to take what they can get. The other airlines (European,
75 Karan69 : GF had announced LHR for 16500 Rs plus taxes around 6-7K less than 9W and others. EK somehow still manages to maintain its flight loads as it offers
76 Cricket : EK has a lot of the high yield O&D traffic as well, Dubai is still an important trade hub from the sub-continent, plus I know of a few people who have
77 Post contains links LAXDESI : Indo-Pak talks hit air pocket again. Link: http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=119857 Quotes: NEW DELHI, MARCH 8: Once again,
78 Post contains links LAXDESI : IA fears monopoly edge for Jet and opposes transfer of Sahara infrastructure to Jet. Link: http://www.ibnlive.com/article.php?id=6567§ion_id=7 Quo
79 VTNYC : So how about the time IC owned every domestic slot at these airports? If IC had their way they would legislate market share and keep 9W below 25% whi
80 LAXDESI : I am sympathetic to the points you raise. However, it is not a good idea to have the Jet-Sahara combine control a large chunk of infrastructure at BO
81 Post contains links LAXDESI : Air India to fly to Mauritius; Air Mauriitus to increase flights to India. Link: http://www.talkingtarmac.com/launch/mauritius-flights.asp Quotes: Aft
82 Post contains links and images LAXDESI : Air India to recruit beauty paegent contestants without formal selection process and deploy them on US and UK routes. Link: http://www.newindpress.com
83 Gr8Circle : Is there really so much traffic potential between India and MRU?
84 VTNYC : Hellooo!!! Nobody was stopping Kingfisher, Spice or Deccan from going aggressively for Sahara. You snooze you loose. This is the market place and Ind
85 Post contains images LAXDESI : How about a fair mix of smiling aunties for service and petulant prissies for eye candy.
86 Post contains images Sammyk : If she can pour a drink she's fine with me as that is about the only service I ask for as FAs really do nothing else for me. I'd rather have some eye
87 Post contains links LAXDESI : Air Deccan IPO postponed. Deccan expected to be valued at $750 million with a 13% market share which compares well to valuation of Sahara with 11% mar
88 Post contains links Himmat01 : Air Deccan aircraft involved in a minor incident http://www.aviationinfo.co.in/2006/Mar/11DeccanOffRunway.htm Air Deccan flight DN 108 Coimbatore-Bang
89 Post contains links Nimish : Less luggage, more savings: LCC mantra http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=119987 Quote: MUMBAI, MARCH 9: 'Travel light and
90 LAXDESI : I like the idea. I suppose Deccan will carry more cargo if passengers check-in less luggage. The fear that I have is many passengers will stuff their
91 LAXDESI : Kingfisher is expected to receive A330-200s in third quarter of 2007. It would have completed two plus years of flying by that time as it began servic
92 Post contains images Comorin : BTW, has anyone heard from MEL, or has he left the building too?
93 Post contains links LAXDESI : Air-India to float IPO in 3 months.The state-owned airline also plans to start direct India-US flights in early 2007. The likely non-stop city pairs a
94 Karan69 : No mate, dont worry i had a chat with him a fortnight ago, i dont know if i can disclose his location CITY, but he has gone for training [practical--
95 Comorin : Phew... That's a relief! I look forward to his return and posting pictures of his favorite dishes!! Thanks for letting me know...
96 Nimish : AI Express may skip Delhi, Mumbai this summer Quote: To add Chennai to network According to sources, loads on AI Express' flights from Kerala were ab
97 LAXDESI : I can not wait for the MAA-BKK service. There are many inexpensive options to BKK from LAX and it would be easy to book on the AIX site for BKK-MAA s
98 Post contains links LAXDESI : Kingfisher to lease three aircrafts. Would this make Kingfisher the first airline to operate A321 in India? Link: http://www.luchtzak.be/article11295.
99 15A : Hi. One correction on the earlier post - Jet dont seem to have got another slot at LHR - instead, they are retiming the Delhi flight (Which currently
100 LAXDESI : Sahara flight from DEL to LHR has similar timings. I assume they will use Jet's LHR slot timing of DEL-LHR flight for the second BOM-LHR flight.
101 Atmx2000 : Wow, I can imagine the feminist and union uproar if a US carrier did that.
102 Concorde001 : Correct. According to Jet Airways Summer schedule, LHR will have the following operations: Inbound 9W122 Delhi (DEL) 1250 London (LHR) 1730 - 1 2 3 4
103 Post contains links Nimish : From http://www.hindu.com/2006/03/12/stories/2006031206360400.htm Air Deccan to refund tickets Quote: Compensation on `case-to-case basis' # 40 passen
104 Post contains links Nimish : Move to redesign first phase of international airport project http://www.hindu.com/2006/03/10/stories/2006031008720500.htm Quote: Board of Bangalore
105 Post contains links Nimish : Patel proposes, BIAL implements http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1446540.cms BANGALORE: Brushing aside the shadow of delay, decks have b
106 LAXDESI : It's a no-brainer. 7 million additional passenger capacity for 400 crores(US $90 million). BTW, based on Dec. 2005 data and growth rate, Bangalore is
107 Comorin : Some idle 'calcs': 9M passengers/year = approx 60,000 flights/year = approx 180 flights/day. Assume 90% of flights happen in any 12 one-hour slots, t
108 LAXDESI : I would think so if the ATC could reduce the distance between two approaching aircrafts. Isn't the new airport designed to accommodate two non-inters
109 Post contains links LAXDESI : Need for re-look at DGCA nod for foreign pilots following the Deccan ATR accident at Bangalore. Link: http://www.hindu.com/2006/03/12/stories/20060312
110 Jaysit : Why? Are Indian pilots skid free?
111 LAXDESI : Obviously not. The article's focus is on qualifications and lack of mandatory simulator check/air law exam for overseas pilots.
112 LAXDESI : The E-195 can seat 108 in standard economy seating. Paramount has it configured for 15 First and 84 Business class seats! I suppose they call their ec
113 Comorin : I think the issue at hand is the ability of the DGCA to ensure that pilots qualified abroad are credential checked, and held to the same standards as
114 Post contains links Blrsea : Check out this thread that I started. It appears that Deccan's cabin crew weren't totally prepared to handle the emergency. Are the flight attendant t
115 Post contains links Blrsea : BIAL contracts transparent
116 Post contains links Nimish : Officials retrieve flight data recorder http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanhe...ld/mar132006/city2041222006312.asp Quote: Speaking to Deccan Herald, a
117 LAXDESI : THIS THREAD IS CLOSED. PLEASE GO TO PART 12.
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