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When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?  
User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 590 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4028 times:
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Does anyone know when the folks at the new US Airways expects the merger to be fully completed? I know that's a pretty open ended question (who's the judge of what 'completed' means), but when will all the planes be repainted, the routes simplified (cutting out duplicates left over from the two airlines [if there are any]), etc. The websites don't really offer a lot of insight into how all that stuff is going so if anyone has any info I'd be much obliged!

[Edited 2006-03-02 06:37:55]

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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

I'd say the merging of the pilot senority lists will be a major mark as to when the merger is essentially "complete." This will probably take another year or two at least... lots of lawsuits and roadblocks and such before this will be completed.

User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4522 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

Legally the merger is complete. Or do you mean the internal workings like schedules, liveries, etc?


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User currently offlineAviationAddict From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4002 times:
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Quoting Indy (Reply 2):
Or do you mean the internal workings like schedules, liveries, etc?

Yes. As I said in the post; paint jobs, routes, website integration, etc. All the little housekeeping stuff.


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4737 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3954 times:
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I've been wondering when the entire HP fleet is scheduled to be repainted. It seems to be happening very rapidly. Every day I see more and more ex-HP aircraft in the new USairways livery at SAN.


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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3965 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

All the former HP planes should be finished being repainted by the end of this year.

As stated above, the main problems facing us now are integrating the seniority lists, and resolving the ramp union issue.


User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2530 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

Officially, the FAA considers the airlines to be merged when they are operating under one single operating certificate. Until then, we are two airlines using the same websites, advertising, and paint jobs. Until we have one certificate AWA can't fly USAirways planes or routes, mix pilots or flight attendants, or have their mechanics do major work on the other's planes (and vice versa for US). And according to the transition agreements between the two pilot groups and the airline, the airlines can not go to one certificate until the pilots have a single seniority list and single contract to cover them all. In addition to all this, there has to be a single FAA approved training program, and updated manuals and procedures for all personnell in place before they will grant that single operating certificate - a huge task in itself.

All this should (we hope) be accomplished by spring of 2007.

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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12163 posts, RR: 36
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3856 times:
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Quoting HPRamper (Reply 5):
All the former HP planes should be finished being repainted by the end of this year.

Does this mean that these awesome liveries will be history?

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User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3766 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 7):
Does this mean that these awesome liveries will be history?

I hope they at least leave 901 and 915 the way they are, and add perhaps a PA state flag to match.


User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3738 times:

I just want to see a Steeler 757.  bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3649 times:

I believe its been said a few dozen times...the special scheme 757s are going to basic US colors. Of course, who knows, they may have a change of heart.  Smile


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User currently offlineMalpensaSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3589 times:

Why havent the schedules been merged, and the two websites combined?

User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5215 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3583 times:

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 11):
Why havent the schedules been merged, and the two websites combined?

Incompatible computer systems. They're working on it.



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