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User currently offlineCurious From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 236 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2630 times:

can a 757 be used and operated in teh same way as other operators are currently using 737 and A320's?

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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

UK LCC Jet2 have started operating the 757 on flights to TFS.
Delta LCC subsidiary Song has a whole fleet of 757s

Theoretically most aircraft can be operated in the same way, but a larger aircraft means more seats to fill, longer turnaround times, higher operating costs, occasional issues over some smaller airports they may not be able to use (runway too short for example) etc, etc.

You'll find the 757 may have a small niche with certain operators to mainly leisure routes which guarantee good loads all year round - but by and large it is a little too big in other respects for most true LCCs.



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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

Quoting Curious (Thread starter):
can a 757 be used and operated in teh same way as other operators are currently using 737 and A320's?

Doesn't the LCC based in ATL (I can't think of the name  banghead  Wink operate some 757's?


User currently offlineBOAC707 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 278 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Skyservice, airtransat, the defunct Canada3000 and Royal all used 757's


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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 2):
Doesn't the LCC based in ATL

Airtran is the damn name. I needed  coffee  to think of it.


User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5067 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 4):


Airtran is the damn name. I needed to think of it.

They operate 717 and 737NG. National Airlines (mk3) operated 757's out of LAS for a few years. Before they shut down they were looking into 737's as the 757 was too big for some of thier markets.

757 would work for LCC's on seat cost basis, but you need to fill those seats and it's a tad too much plane for many markets.

ATA operates 757's as well, and we know thier story.

[Edited 2006-03-02 14:36:42]

[Edited 2006-03-02 14:37:03]


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User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

America West has 'em too, but now they are part of US Airways.


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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2266 times:

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 6):
America West has 'em too, but now they are part of US Airways.

HP wasn't an LCC even before they bought out US Airways!


User currently offlineBMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 860 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 1):
occasional issues over some smaller airports they may not be able to use (runway too short for example)

Arn't the 757 able to land at airports where the 737 can't. I though that I have read this a number of times but can't find a source.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2092 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 4):
Airtran is the damn name. I needed  coffee  to think of it.

There have been rumors in the past that the airline owned some and were leasing them out. I heard the rumor when I was working there in 1999-2000, and even heard (at that time, which was in late 1999) that the company was about send a group of F/As for 757 training. This also coincided with the rumors at the time that the airline had signed agreements to start service into several western markets from ATL.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9194 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

I believe Hooters Air has 752s as well... They fly 732, 733 and 753 aircraft...
I can't think of which routes they use them (the 752) for tho, besides the ones to Vegas, but from where...



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User currently offlineTerryb99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

If you put number of seats aside, one of the big advantages of the 757 when compared to the NG is cargo capacity. Most LCC have not embraced cargo as a revenue stream.
Without that extra revenue, makes it harder to put together a good LCC business plan with the 757.

Terry


User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 9):
There have been rumors in the past that the airline owned some and were leasing them out. I heard the rumor when I was working there in 1999-2000, and even heard (at that time, which was in late 1999) that the company was about send a group of F/As for 757 training. This also coincided with the rumors at the time that the airline had signed agreements to start service into several western markets from ATL.

Seems like a look at their annual report would confirm/deny this...


User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

The 757 is still a very expensive aircraft to purchase. CO has been using the 757 on Int'l routes for years and now AA is jumping on the bandwagon. Should DAL make it or atleast not lose their 757's to GECAS, they will probaly use the 757 on JFK to Europe.

I think you will see cargo carriers out bid the LCC for 757's. This is a perfect platform to replace the 727's or DC-8's.


User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 13):
Should DAL make it or atleast not lose their 757's to GECAS, they will probaly use the 757 on JFK to Europe.

HA!! Asinine statement of the week.


As I said before, your GECAS thoughts are wrong and you conveniently couldn't prove your claim. And secondly, Delta WON'T use the 757 to Europe, I guarantee it. Why? They aren't ETOPS certified and DL doesn't want to spend the money to get them certified, so it will not be done. Just goes to show what good YOUR consulting will do.



OttoPylit


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