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Boeing Firms Up 737 Replacement Studies.  
User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19574 times:

Boeing has enbarked on yet another mile stone by taking the first formal step for the replacement of the B737, by appointing key personnel to the internal study, which will be known as (737RS).

The team will be lead by Mike Cave the current Beeing Commercial Airplanes (BCA) with a target date of 2012-2015 for the succesor of the B737NG.

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...acement+studies+by+appointing.html


Regards,
Wings


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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19562 times:

'The RS/Y1 concept is likely to be based around an all-composite 787-like structure, fly-by-wire, more-electric system architecture, EVS-integrated avionics flightdeck, and a cabin cross-section “wider than A320”. Aerodynamic improvements include a wing of increased span, single-slotted flaps, raked and blended-winglet wingtip options, blended fin root and 787-like Section 41 (nose) and flightdeck.'

They might as well call it 787-200. Here they come Airbus, watch out.


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19540 times:

I guess Airbus has something up their sleeve about upgrading A320 series...

Micke//SWE  twocents 



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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 19521 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 2):
I guess Airbus has something up their sleeve about upgrading A320 series...

I bet they do. This will be one of the interesting fights of the next decade to see who comes up on top. Can't wait for the battle  bouncy 


User currently offlineDtw9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1156 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19427 times:

If you read further in the article,

[In December last year, BCA chief executive Alan Mulally, said a replacement for the narrowbody would enter service between 2012 and 2015, which has now been accelerated in a bid to beat Airbus]


So it looks like EIS could be sooner

[Edited 2006-03-02 14:48:29]

User currently offlineAviator27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19385 times:

Wow, I am salivating at the chance to fly either the A320NG or B737RS.

User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19352 times:

The availibility of suitable new generation engines will in part dictate the service entry of this plane, same goes for a A320NG.

User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1645 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19339 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 3):
Can't wait for the battle

Normally I find the whole A vs B thing distasteful but in this case it will be interesting. My guess is that it will come down to price as the two types will be equally matched in size and performance. Boeing should have a slight boost as this will be their second "composite" aircraft, But Airbus will have it's A400M knowlage to help.



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User currently offlineUSAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1445 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19282 times:

Great post and an excellent article. Thanks Wings!


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User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19282 times:

Quoting Sinlock (Reply 7):
Normally I find the whole A vs B thing distasteful but in this case it will be interesting.

I think it's only distasteful here on A.net but the actual competition between the 2 manufacturers is fun. A. netters make up their own stuff based on personal preferences and claim they are facts.


User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19267 times:



Nice looking bird.

According to the article a formal launch is not expected until 2008. This should allow a good time frame for more eventaul improvements and technologies.

Regards,
Wings



Aviation Is A Passion.
User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10677 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 19234 times:

The race for the next-generation bread-and-butter aircraft, the "Golf"-class of the air, has been opened. Thanks for posting the link. Interesting that the article mentioned that the next project after this will be replacing the 777. That would logically happen between 2015-20 then. I always thought Boeing wanted a joint 747/777 replacement. That was at least what Boeing itself said up until now.

User currently offlineXkorpyoh From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19195 times:

787 says: "lets call it MINI-ME"  Smile

User currently offlineTifoso From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19180 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 10):
Nice looking bird.

I had similar thoughts, until I read this :

Quote:
a Flight International artist's impression of which is pictured below

So, it isn't from Boeing.  Smile

I found it interesting that the fuselage will be widened so that the diameter is greater than that of the A320. Should Airbus widen their fuselage as well, we are back to where we started.  Wink

I hope neither Airbus nor Boeing make it wide enough to allow for a 7th seat to be installed in each row. I would much prefer the comfort of having some extra room.


User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3167 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19111 times:

What is so special about the picture? It is the most standard looking aircraft ever...

User currently offlineFlyDreamliner From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2759 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19076 times:

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 1):
Here they come Airbus, watch out.



Quoting Solnabo (Reply 2):
I guess Airbus has something up their sleeve about upgrading A320 series...

Hmm, I remember once when Airbus was designing this new, much more advanced airplane, and Boeing had something up their sleeve about upgrading the 737, how did that turn out?

It's basically a miracle 737-300/400/500 sold as well as it did against A320, because even is 737 was/is on some routes cheaper to run, it's a generation behind in technology (except the engines, which are basically common between A320 and 737). 737-600/700/800/900 competes well against A320, actually besting their airbus in some aspects, but it debuted a decade after A320.

Moral of the story, if all airbus has up their sleeve is refitting A320 with a slightly refined wing, a few weight saving materials, and new engines, they better watch out, because an all composite, ground up new 787 style 737 replacement is just going to be better. Just like A320 was against 737-300/400/500

Quoting NA (Reply 11):
I always thought Boeing wanted a joint 747/777 replacement. That was at least what Boeing itself said up until now.

They do want to replace jointly 777/747, but so far as Boeing sees it, 777 has a lot of life left in it. I would be very surprised if 777-300ER was the last 777 we saw. Also, 777-200 is being replaced, effectively, by 787-10.

I'm guessing we'll see Y3 not that far after Y1.



"Let the world change you, and you can change the world"
User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19076 times:

Quoting Joost (Reply 14):
What is so special about the picture? It is the most standard looking aircraft ever...

Check out the nose and the grazed edges on the engines. I wouldn't call that standard since there's in no aircraft flying today with those features. Like I said earlier, they might as well call it the 787-200.


User currently offlineAeropiggot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 19005 times:

I find it interesting that Boeing made this announcment after Airbus announce that the A350 EIS would be delayed due cockpit changes. This now puts pressure on Airbus to commit engineering talent to the A320 replacement, at the cost of the A350..may be. Boeing could enjoy another 2 to 3 years lead on Airbus with there 737 replacement.  checkeredflag 


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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 18958 times:

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 13):
I hope neither Airbus nor Boeing make it wide enough to allow for a 7th seat to be installed in each row.

The B737RS will not seat 7 abreast because to do so would require the cabin width of the B767.


User currently offlineAirFrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2826 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 18855 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 2):
I guess Airbus has something up their sleeve about upgrading A320 series...

This is not good news for Airbus. The A320/737 matchup is the only matchup that Airbus has a clear winner (and one of it's few competitive products given the A330/A340 collapse last year). That's not a bad thing, they basically have the Civic of the skies.

The timing is especially bad for Airbus in that they have a A380 model that has failed to catch fire, a A330/A340 family that is dying against the 777 and a 350 that is still being outordered by the 787. Airbus is having to revamp it's entire product line in reaction.

Boeing is going to have a few steps on Airbus technology wise from the 777 and 787. In particular some of the composite body technology and the maintainence technology is going to be critical for Boeing and Airbus is going to have to catch up to be competitive with this plane on the drawing board.

Boeing also has a bit "weirder" technologies they could look at for this project, namely the BWB, and the double hull design they were looking at.


User currently offlinePlaneDane From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 18848 times:

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 13):
I found it interesting that the fuselage will be widened so that the diameter is greater than that of the A320. Should Airbus widen their fuselage as well, we are back to where we started.

I hope neither Airbus nor Boeing make it wide enough to allow for a 7th seat to be installed in each row. I would much prefer the comfort of having some extra room.



Quoting Zvezda (Reply 18):
The B737RS will not seat 7 abreast because to do so would require the cabin width of the B767.

It will be wide enough to have two aisles, right? I thought that WN was pushing for this.

Quoting Sinlock (Reply 7):
Boeing should have a slight boost as this will be their second "composite" aircraft, But Airbus will have it's A400M knowlage to help.

I'm not sure that the composite technology taken rom the A400M program will translate all that well or provide the advantages Airbus would be looking for. Rather, I predict that we'll see the current A320 fuselage redone in Aluminum-Lithium.

[Edited 2006-03-02 17:01:33]

User currently offlineB707321C From Norway, joined Sep 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 18848 times:

I think Airbus should think long and hard how to compete in this market segment. The B737 and A320 replacement must provide a huge improvement in operating cost before it makes any sense. There will probably be a lot of new "inexpensive " aircrafts produced in low cost areas by 2015 that these new products have to compete with. Can a new B737 replacement give a better net present value for the airlines than an A320 made in China? Or B737/A320 Size aircraft made in Russia for half the price?

Based on this I do not think that a new B737 or A320 will be a popular as the respective models as they are replacing.


User currently onlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12422 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 18791 times:

Quote:
Boeing has confirmed that other leaders of the team will include marketing vice-president Kent Fisher

"Hello, Mr. Kelleher? This is Kent Fisher calling..."



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10677 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 18791 times:

Airbus should re-engine the A320 by 2010 and develop a replacement once the Boeing product is known to the public in detail to be able to answer with a an even better product, like Boeing did when they brought the 777 after Airbus introduced the A340/330. I have the feeling Airbus isn´t doing enough to keep the A320 fresh past 2010. Their engines are 80s technology.

User currently offlineTinkerBelle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 18704 times:

Quoting NA (Reply 23):
Airbus should re-engine the A320 by 2010 and develop a replacement once the Boeing product is known to the public in detail to be able to answer with a an even better product, like Boeing did when they brought the 777 after Airbus introduced the A340/330.

Not sure if that's a good idea. Slapping some new engines on the A320 is not a solution, short term or long term. They'll just spend a bunch of money for nothing. Boeing never re-engined the 767 after Airbus went ahead with the A330/A340. They continued their plans with the 777 and look at where they're at now. Maybe Airbus should do the same. A couple of years late might not be that bad...just ask Boeing as far the 777 goes. Just my  twocents 


25 Post contains images Kappel : How about 767 vs a332? BTW the a330 had one of its best years last year. It was the a340 that collapsed. And who says Airbus won't be able to compete
26 Poitin : More likely the 797-200, but I think you have it scoped pretty well. Particularly about the wide cabin. Boeing learned that lesson when the 720 came
27 Ikramerica : Changing 2012-2015 to 2011-2014 doesn't change anything. It will be 2012. Mark my words. Unless flight testing schedules are delayed on any other pro
28 Post contains images Joost : Haha yes The 787 at least had a shark tail - oh wait, that feature was gone in the final design. I just fail to feel any exitement by a drawing like
29 Keesje : I think Airbus might be working on a 320 upgrade & Boeing concluded another upgrade on the 737 won't do the trick. Hopefully the 737NG sales will hold
30 Post contains images Moparman : Now that doesn't surprise me coming from an Airbus fanatic like you! LOL!! The A320 is ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY in comparison to the B787. That is like say
31 CruzinAltitude : Its nice to see the 797 start to build steam. I just wonder how many threads will be started with titles like this. . . "Will the 737RS be renamed the
32 Post contains links Kaitak744 : I definately favor the 797. Not exactly. The "new" Boeing line will eventually look like this. 797, 787, 777, 747-8. http://www.boeing.com/randy/arch
33 Zvezda : Very unlikely. One wide aisle allows for faster embarkation and disembarkation than two narrow aisles. WN are pushing for increased aisle width for f
34 Ikramerica : That's very true. The aisle on a 737 is quite tight. If someone needs to come forward because they can't get their bag in the overhead bin or an F/A
35 Post contains links Planemaker : I am going to assume that you meant "chevron" and not "grazed edges." If that is the case, you will find that feature on the CRJ-700/900. Some questi
36 Stitch : The US Navy could order up to 100 of them in various guises over the next decade or more, so that alone should keep the 737 line running until the "7
37 TinkerBelle : Just out of Curiosity, what for??
38 Ikramerica : for 4-6 months. the 727 sold well through 757 eis. the 737-classic sold well through 737NG eis. it's more the expensive widebodies that people tend t
39 Scoliodon : Glad to know that pic is not from Boeing. If it had been, I'd say its the plainest looking bird ever. Nothing like the evil grin of the 737...
40 A319XFW : How about threads of what it will be called? I'm guessing it's going to have "...liner" in the name as with the Dreamliner and Worldliner... How abou
41 Aircellist : About the A320 improvements, what would it represent to develop a new composite keel for the A32x series, as was done for the A345-346, in term of gai
42 Planemaker : The navy chose the 737 as their P-3 replacement.
43 Zvezda : The gains from increasing the strength-to-weight ratio are proportionally smaller for smaller aircraft (and other structures), but the development co
44 Post contains images Stitch : The P-8 MMA (Multimission Maritime Aircraft) which, as Planemaker noted, will replace the P-3 Orion. The 737-700C is also the basis for the C-40 Clip
45 Aircellist : Thanks, Zvezda. I suppose they will go for a clean sheet as well. I was wondering if such a composite keel is something we may see as an interim impr
46 Leelaw : IIRC, a second assembly line is being started at Renton (in space formerly occupied by the 757 assembly line) for the P-8 MMA program and other milit
47 Zvezda : I believe government regulations require that the military versions be built on a separate line so that they can be sure that whatever they paid is n
48 Leelaw : Wasn't the KC-10 built on the same assembly/production line as the DC-10/MD-11, AWACS and other military variants with 707 fuselages on the 707 line,
49 N328KF : I dunno, were the E-3 and E-6 produced on different lines?
50 Post contains links and images Keesje : "Someday both the Next-Generation 737 and the (Airbus) A320 will need to be replaced, but so far we have not found a more compelling airplane for the
51 We're Nuts : How are single-slotted flaps an improvement? The 737's huge triple-slotted flaps make it one of the most versital commercial aircraft ever produced.
52 Zvezda : Single-slotted flaps offer lower fuel consumption and lower noise levels.
53 Leelaw : I failed to mention the T-43A navigational trainer a USAF variant of the 732, which is an actual example of military and civil variants of the 737 be
54 Post contains images DfwRevolution : The 737NG features double-slotted slats, only the classic generation 737 feature tripple-slotted flaps: If Boeing opts for a high-wing to allow for a
55 Atmx2000 : Both Boeing and Airbus would be wise to make sure that capital is more important in labor to ensure that they maintain their market positions, and th
56 JayinKitsap : I would expect that the first 737RS model will be the 700 replacement unless WN and Ryanair opt for a bigger plane. I would guess that like a maximum
57 Post contains images Nitrohelper : Do we have an agreement on the width for the 797 , err,,,737XR, ahh, mmm Baby Boe?? I have have one @155-157 inch, what is the best width for cargo bi
58 Post contains images Keesje : The 737 landing speed is a little higher then the 320´s. Does it break better with those triple slotted slots so it can land on those thousands of s
59 Kaitak744 : Well, the idea behind reducing the amount of slots in flaps is noise. Tripple slotted flaps produce alot more noice than double slotted ones. And doub
60 Wnsocal : When Boeing does finally offer this aircraft WN will place an order for about 500 frames. Wouldn't this alone be enough for Boeing to offre it sooner
61 AirCanada014 : I wonder if AC will continue sticking with the airbus narrowbody A320s or will the opt for 737RS? This would be very interesting to see where AC stand
62 Planemaker : " target=_blank>http://www.king5.com/business/storie....html "Continuing to invest in the Next-Genreation 737" while on the way to the RS/Y1, a possib
63 Ikramerica : Orders plus options plus purchase rights, yes. Ryanair would order them. CO would order them to replace the 733 initially. But I would expect both a
64 Planemaker : But if you project into the future around the time of a probable EIS date of 2015... what would the market need if you take consolidation of the indu
65 Atmx2000 : Some have said that the time for moving the over air bridge over the wing to the rear door negates the advantages.
66 Lehpron : Nothing, makes the whole going to the airport even more boring. It bugs seeing the same plane everywhere. Some people here treat it like a sports gam
67 Post contains images Rottamo : WN has about 445 aircrafts about 67 firm orders about 33 options about 217 purchase rights Total 762 Another way to think size of WN. If they grow 10
68 AvObserver : I tend to agree unless Airbus decides to accelerate A320 upgrade plans, forcing Boeing to move faster on 737 replacement. There are as yet no indicat
69 Planemaker : Good point to bring up, however, the time savings depends upon arriving and departing pax loads and, obviously, aircraft size. Furthermore, since the
70 DfwRevolution : Remember that WN will have to replace a good deal of aircraft starting after 2008. The 737-300/500 fleet is around 225 aircraft.
71 Planemaker : I agree, there are so many factors at play here, including the possibility of Airbus accelerating an A320 replacement as you say. However, I think th
72 Ikramerica : An entry door in the 2 position like the 757 would help the 737 replacement board faster as well. Rather than having one traffic jam for the whole pla
73 Planemaker : The 757 could be replaced in most cases with the 739 ( especially if it has been "enhanced" with some of the options that have been brought up in thi
74 BWIA 772 : Desipite the engine issue that has been featured in article from FI a critical part of the 737 replacement is the 787. The performance of the 787 will
75 DfwRevolution : Not necessarily a good idea. (1) Airbus didn't develop anything so radical with the A320 that Boeing had to develop an all-new product. That enabled
76 Carpethead : I wonder if the 737RS will be assembled similar to 787. Lets have the Japanese consortium make the wings; Chinese the fuselage; and final assembly wor
77 Ikramerica : not unless it gets a bigger wing and is raised off the ground so it has a better take off roll. as it stands right now, the 739 is the limit of the 7
78 Rottamo : Two points. Delta and NW are resizing their fleets right now. They have a lot less older planes after that. Price of oil can do surprises. It can be $
79 Planemaker : The 739 (especially any possible enhanced future version) will easily replace most of the 757s when they get retired... whenever that is. And in thos
80 Ikramerica : lets see. it's lower capacity both in 1 and 2 class. has far less range even with aux tanks. carries less cargo when equipped with tanks by volume. l
81 Planemaker : Sorry, I am the one being completely realistic. You are arguing now just for arguments sake because you cannot "pratically" support or back up with t
82 Atmx2000 : The 787 is a much bigger plane than the 752 with a greater acquisition cost. How will it have similar trip costs?
83 Abba : Lower fuel burn? (But that much?) Lower maintenance costs? (Could indeed be very significant!) Abba
84 Ikramerica : First, where did I say that the 757 replacement would ACCELERATE the EIS? I only said that the two models that would come first would be the 73G and 7
85 Planemaker : What is it that you don't understand between MOST and SOME... Is the 739 having 90% to 95% of the 757's seating capacity not closer to MOST than SOME
86 Post contains links and images Rottamo : You are assuming that Boeing has no competitors and that is not true. In reality if they don't provide certain product then the competitor can provid
87 David31998 : Replacements for the 737 and 320 within the next few years will exclude others who would like to enter this market for the next few decades. China has
88 Post contains images Nitrohelper : So in 2012 we get in service a 100 to 200? seat,, how wide ( 160"?) what size thrust, and for the grand prize ,,, what is the short & long operating r
89 Post contains images BlueSky1976 : The first 777 replacement - 787-10X - is already on the drawing board and is coming closer to reality. I think ATWOnline mentioned that Rolls-Royce i
90 Abba : ... and the 380. There are composite parts on this plane that are BIGGER than anything on the 787 made with the same type of technology as Boeing wil
91 Post contains images Steeler83 : The 787-3 is about the same size as a 752; it seats about 210 passengers. (Perhaps this is more comparable to the 762...) The other planes, the 788 a
92 Zvezda : No, the B787-3 and B787-8 have exactly the same size fuselages. The B787-3 will seat 290-330 in a single-class configuration. It is much larger than
93 Steeler83 : Yeah, you're right... I just looked that up myself on boeing.com. I thought the 783 was smaller than the other two. Even the smallest one, the 788, i
94 A319XFW : The A400M has got a composite wing, but not a composite fuselage. And then the A350 will have a composite wing, too. As Abba says, the largest compos
95 Zvezda : Right, but I still expect NSR to have a composite fuselage. It will be easier to develop for a smaller aircraft than for a larger one. The timing is
96 Ikramerica : yep. both the 783 and 788 in 2 class domestic configs seat WAY more than a 752, which is why I don't buy it is a replacement for the 757. I'd like to
97 Zvezda : Good post, but don't forget that two different size wings for the B737RS is speculation on the part of A.netters (including myself). I know of no sou
98 Planemaker : No, he's not pushing aside your point. Legacy carriers are not "replacing" their 757s for the simple reason that they still have utilization left in
99 MIAMIx707 : I hope it doesn't look like that picture. Oh my that's UGLY, looks like the offspring from when the 787 and Embraer 170 mated! The 737 is much better
100 Post contains images Nitrohelper : Is the 737 replacement also the 797?, and then what size (# seats) is Y1 ? ? Are we talking about the same size with "Later" design changes or deliver
101 Zvezda : The B737NG replacement was formerly codenamed Y1. It is now codenamed B737RS. Boeing have never used the B797 for it; that was just speculation among
102 Post contains images Nitrohelper : Thanks for a good summry, I think then we use 737RS as it can be studied to death here saving Boeing a lot of research dollars ! ! No 797 talk for me,
103 Post contains images RayChuang : I think Flight International's rendering may be closer to the truth than people think. In my humble opinion, the new plane will likely have the follow
104 Post contains images SSTsomeday : What about competition from Canadian and Brazilian large commuters? Could they be a factor, cutting into A and B sales? My understanding is that the
105 Ikramerica : You might see 3 or 4. If 3, expect the top to be a bit bigger than the 739, a bit smaller than the 752. If 4, expect the third to be bigger than the
106 DAYflyer : Hummm....perhaps we should dub it the "Kelleher special" then....... Seriously, they should develop it with others in mind as well. Locking in one or
107 Zvezda : Good point. If Boeing were to develop the B737RS with only WN's needs in mind, it would lack LD3 compatibility -- which most airlines value.
108 Ken777 : I believe that the 797/320NG will be as interesting to watch as the 787/350, and maybe even more interesting. Both A&B have the potential to strike fi
109 Post contains images FlyBoy84 : A high wing is SSSSOOOOOOO not gonna' happen With the larger engine diameter that next generation engines will have, you can count on taller gear - a
110 Joost : What mistake? They already have 176 commitments, and still many large airlines are in the market for either the 787 or 350 as a replacements for 767s
111 Post contains images Nitrohelper : FlyBoy84,reply=109 I'm with you on the 757 look (tall gear) ,,,I would love the ride on a "Hot Rod" 757 ! ! ! A light load stock model & nose-up pilot
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