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Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots  
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3123 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5843 times:

Courtesy: KSTP-TV

Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S14559.html?cat=1

Video Report:

http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=165820

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User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3123 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5712 times:

Courtesy: Star-Tribune

Update As Of 2PM

Pilot Talks Continue; NWA Declines To Impose New Contract

http://www.startribune.com/535/story/280162.html


User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3123 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5457 times:

The Latest..............................

Courtesy: Reuters

Northwest, Pilots Union Negotiate Past Deadline

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060302/airlines_northwest.html?.v=3

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Courtesy: KARE-TV

NWA And Pilots Continue Talks

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=119888

Video Report:

http://www.kare11.com/video/player.aspx?aid=23995&bw=hi


User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3123 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5366 times:

Courtesy: The Associated Press

Northwest, Pilots Keep Talking - 6:52PM

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060302/airlines_labor.html?.v=11


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13260 posts, RR: 100
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5186 times:
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Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 3):
Northwest, Pilots Keep Talking - 6:52PM



Quote:
The threat of mutually assured destruction kept Northwest Airlines and its pilots at the bargaining table on Thursday.

Not too suprising. These DL and NW pilot negotiations are more intresting than I like.  crazy 

Why isn't NW going into arbitration?

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5140 times:

What this is boiling down to is the Judge does not want to make the ruling. He is hoping they can get and agreement. If he puts this ruleing off again tomorrow night, then he will never make the ruling. Is up to NWA and if they can they will break the union and impose new work rules and lower wages. And then we will have a strike.

User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5101 times:

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 5):
DTWAGENT

He is holding off because the two sides are close. He doesnt want to upset
the applecart unless it all comes unraveled.
I noticed that Allan Gropper is the SAME judge hearing the Tower Automotive case and he will rule March 13 on the contracts with the UAW in that matter.
Being from the DTW area, you are aware of the Tower Auto Chapter 11.
safe



If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7554 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

At least the good thing is the airlines says the wont impose a contract... If the sides are close, its looking good again for NW.


"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineN742AT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 46 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4365 times:

Although the two sides are close to reaching and agreement I dont think that NW will be satified with the outcome either way. If they dont get the cutbacks their dead if they impose the contracts their dead. It seems NW is going to lose no matter the outcome of the ruling or the negotiations. BEST of luck to all those involved in one way or another.

User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7554 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4325 times:

Quoting N742AT (Reply 8):
Although the two sides are close to reaching and agreement I dont think that NW will be satified with the outcome either way. If they dont get the cutbacks their dead if they impose the contracts their dead.

So far they will get cutback, both sides know what they can and can not afford, of course management wants a lot more then what they can afford. At the same time the pilots knowing what the airline can afford is not going to try and get a contract that wouldnt allow them to come out of it.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineRedneckslim From Congo (Brazzaville), joined Sep 2005, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4259 times:

N W A ...... A very sick old man in his death throwes, As an old man dies, a newborn baby cries!

User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4242 times:

Quoting Redneckslim (Reply 10):
As an old man dies, a newborn baby cries!

And who might that be?
safe



If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
User currently offlineAA777223 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3812 times:

I understand they want good wages, but if the airline folds, they will have no wages, then they'll really be upset.


Sic 'em bears
User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3721 times:

Well NWA could start by cutting managements pay. They have yet to do that. They want to cut everyone elses pay, but they will not even think about cutting managements pay.......CO did that to help out with their employees and airline...Also, the employees don't trust anyone in management. Sounds like another UA.

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6493 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3654 times:

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 13):
Well NWA could start by cutting managements pay. They have yet to do that. They want to cut everyone elses pay, but they will not even think about cutting managements pay

Every manager at Northwest already has had his pay cut by 20% and his pension frozen. I suggest you do a little research before writing such false statements.


User currently offline747LUVR From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

I think, and believe The old man is in reference to NW....and the newborn baby....a new LCC.....just from what I took of the post.

User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5273 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

As a lawyer, I don't like judges that are afraid to cut off negotiations and rule or set a trial date.

It's to the benefit of both parties to continue talking, but the judge needs to say that at 6pm, he will rule. No ifs, ands or buts.

Granted, the judge may be signing NW's obituary, regardless whether he voids the contract or not, but that's why he's a judge.


User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2731 times:

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 5):
What this is boiling down to is the Judge does not want to make the ruling.



Quoting Ckfred (Reply 16):
As a lawyer, I don't like judges that are afraid to cut off negotiations and rule or set a trial date.

It's to the benefit of both parties to continue talking, but the judge needs to say that at 6pm, he will rule. No ifs, ands or buts.

Granted, the judge may be signing NW's obituary, regardless whether he voids the contract or not, but that's why he's a judge.

I totally agree, WTF good is a deadline if it's already been pulled back 2 or 3 times already?

This judge doesn't appear to have the intestinal fortitude to do his job - it's NW who had gotten themselves to this point and not the courts, all that the courts need do now is what the law dictates.


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

Quoting Redneckslim (Reply 10):
As an old man dies, a newborn baby cries!

"lightning crashes, an old mother dies
her intentions fall to the floor
the angel closes her eyes
the confusion that was hers
belongs now, to the baby down the hall"


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