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Qantas B744-438 Configurations  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4070 times:
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I am booked on SA7700 and SA7701 (operated by Qantas as QF64 & QF63) during June. I was browsing through their website and couldn't help but notice that QF now has 2 different 2-class configurations on their B744-438's. In the past, QF had 2 different 3-class configurations and only one 2-class configuration on the B744-438.

According to the schedules, SA7700 (QF64) from JNB-SYD will be operated by a 3-class configured aircraft. From SYD-JNB on SA7701 (QF63) a 2-class configured aircraft will be utilized. I am curious about the two different configurations for the 2-class configured aircraft - is this something that is changing? One configuration offers 56 J-class and 366 Y-class seats. The 2nd configuration offers 66 J-class seats and 356 Y-class seats

Could someone shed some light on this issue please? Your input will be much appreciated.


Rgds

SA7700


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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8452 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4052 times:
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Seatguru only has 2 plans for Qantas:

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Qan...antas_Airways_Boeing_747-400_2.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Qan.../Qantas_Airways_Boeing_747-400.php



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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4032 times:
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Quoting Andz (Reply 1):
Seatguru only has 2 plans for Qantas:

Yes. But the Qantas website shows 4. http://www.qantas.com.au/info/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/seatMap744


Rgds

SA7700



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21516 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

Seatguru is missing a lot of stuff.


Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineBroocy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3937 times:

The reason is that QF has 2 seat maps is because they were/are in the process of upgrading the fleet to the lie-flat J class product.

There is really no difference in terms of galley and toilet layouts, there is only a difference caused by the new, larger, Skysuite J class seat. This is why the J class has reduced. The only difference for folks in Y class is that those seated in the forward-most cabin have 1 less row, making it a lttle more cosy and private.

Please correct me if this statement is wrong, but I think the entire 744 fleet has been updated now with the new product. You should be flying on the 56/356 layout. QF needs to update its website to remove the old seat maps.

Have a nice flight!


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3914 times:

Quoting Broocy (Reply 4):
Please correct me if this statement is wrong, but I think the entire 744 fleet has been updated now with the new product. You should be flying on the 56/356 layout. QF needs to update its website to remove the old seat maps.

Did QF end First on 747´s then?


User currently offlineBroocy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3879 times:

Keesje. F as not been entirely removed from QF. It has F on a number of 744's on routes that can support the demand, eg to LON and LAX/NYC. It has completed the upgrade to the Skysuite on these aircraft.

It removed F from a number of routes, like AKL, BNE to LAX or SYD to FRA. (The JNB route seems to be a bit of a mixed bag.) It reconfigured the 2 class aircraft last.

Sorry if my post was not clear.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3854 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
Seatguru is missing a lot of stuff.

Exactly, the seat maps on the airline websites are better than Seatguru.

Patrick


User currently offlineASAFA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 168 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3819 times:

Quoting Keesje (Reply 5):
Did QF end First on 747´s then?

No. Read the post.


The seat maps on QF's website also have the registration of the A/C that are in a particular configuration. Not sure if it's current, but here is the breakdown.

66/366
VH-OJH

56/356
VH-OJA
VH-OJB
VH-OJC
VH-OJD
VH-OJE
VH-OJI
VH-OJJ

14/64/265
VH-OEB
VH-OEC
VH-OED

14/50/315
VH-OJF
VH-OJG
VH-OJH
VH-OJK
VH-OJL
VH-OJM
VH-OJN
VH-OJO
VH-OJP
VH-OJQ
VH-OJR
VH-OJS
VH-OJT
VH-OJU



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User currently offlineHighpeaklad From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3810 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 7):
Exactly, the seat maps on the airline websites are better than Seatguru.

I agree . seatexpert.com does however have a Map for BA long haul 767 which is not available on the BA website.

Chris



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User currently offlineQFFlyer From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3716 times:

Quoting ASAFA (Reply 8):
The seat maps on QF's website also have the registration of the A/C that are in a particular configuration. Not sure if it's current, but here is the breakdown.

66/366
VH-OJH

I think you will find that [O]h [J]esus [H]elp, the Bangkok golf course visitor, has been converted to a 3 class, Kangaroo route config [14F, 50J, 315Y].

Quoting ASAFA (Reply 8):
14/64/265
VH-OEB
VH-OEC
VH-OED

Also, I believe the 744ERs [OEE to OEJ]are Pacific config.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 7):
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
Seatguru is missing a lot of stuff.

Exactly, the seat maps on the airline websites are better than Seatguru.

Actually the QF site shows configs with the old Dreamtime J seats. Seatguru is more accurate in this case, showing only Skybed seats, and makes note of the Pacific config.

Cheers


User currently offlineAirNewZealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3645 times:

ALL our aircrafts are now reconfigured!

As stated... OJH is now three class along with OJF.

OJA, OJB, OJC, OJD, OJE, OJI, OJJ are two class...

ERs are pacific config...

747-300 are still dreamtime seats!

Enjoy your flight with us...

PS: JNB is a mixed bag on aircraft configs... their could be a charter on around that time thus three class needed elsewhere!


User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3569 times:
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Thanks for all the replies! I booked seat 18J on the outbound flight from JNB and 3B on the outbound from SYD. Are those good seats or are there better J-class seats out there. I got 11B from SYD-JNB in November 2005 and that was a marvelous seat - unfortunately it seems as if 11B has already been snatched this time around.  Smile


Rgds

SA7700



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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3401 times:
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Quoting SA7700 (Reply 12):
Enjoy your flight with us...

PS: JNB is a mixed bag on aircraft configs... their could be a charter on around that time thus three class needed elsewhere!

I just hope the flight will still be on QF. Even the blasted supervisors in the SA reservations call centre don't know whether the codeshare between QF and SA on the JNB-SYD route will remain in place.

According to a QF FF newsletter I received, SA Voyager members will no longer be able to accrue mileage on QF-numbered flights. The same applies to QF FF members on SA-numbered flights.

The newsletter did mention that the QF/SA codeshare on the JNB-PER route would remain in place, however made no mention of JNB-SYD.


Rgds

SA7700



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